Future "meta"?

LadyNalcarya

What do you think, what class/build combo has chances to become a new "meta" in the next patches?
Knowing Zos, they will probably nerf the hell out of current meta builds so I'm curious about fellow players' opinions.

eventide03b14a_ESO

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

What do you think, what class/build combo has chances to become a new "meta" in the next patches?
Knowing Zos, they will probably nerf the hell out of current meta builds so I'm curious about fellow players' opinions.

Magicka sorc.
It's always magicka sorc....

wayfarerx

Argonian magicka templars!

* fingers crossed *

BoloBoffin

Excuse my ignorance, or not, but what's a "meta" build?

eventide03b14a_ESO

BoloBoffin wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, or not, but what's a "meta" build?

Also known as "flavor of the month".

MisterBigglesworth

BoloBoffin wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, or not, but what's a "meta" build?

Good question. No one really knows.
First we have to be able to define "meta"...

BoloBoffin

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

BoloBoffin wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, or not, but what's a "meta" build?

Also known as "flavor of the month".

OK, got it. Thanks!

Solariken

They won't be nerfing anything explicitly. You can expect some champion system changes though, so it may lessen the effectiveness of OP spam skills like Surprise Attack and Wrecking Blow.

However, I foresee the FOTM builds remaining relatively constant, except for magicka Sorc which will likely become slightly stronger.

Khaos_Bane

Give Stamina Sorcs some LOVE PLEASE !!!!!

Vaoh

@MisterBigglesworth I'm glad you pointed that out. Perhaps it is the min/maxed build, otherwise known as the 1% of all players.....

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO

if things continue to progress as they are, and no action is taken, the meta will eventually be everyone being a tank, healer and dps all in one.

xoduspaladin

If they fix the Kajiit's passive, I could see them being used a lot with whatever the flavor of the month class.

Mojmir

the meta will be "he who has no lag"

Artjuh90

magicka sorc like always. it's on top of the leaderboards in PvP and PvE
and still complain about stam NB being able to cloak a whopping 3 times before being fully OOM

Lettigall

Today's meta most likely will be meta in next update. Mag sorcs and stamblades aren't going anywhere, they are safe bet to be meta in next update. Maybe DKs gonna get some love, but doubt that it will be enough to make them meta. Templars? Don't make me laugh, they probably gonna get nerf.

ShadowDisciple

i wish nightblades gets nerfed...so i can play them in peace without having ppl scream how op they are... played NB since 1.2 lol and all these PRO console players and new pc users dont even know stamina NB didnt even exist before 1.5 or 1.6 (i forgot) when they introduced stamina morphs for quite a few main skills Stam NB nowadays use.

Zinaroth

wayfarerx wrote: »

Argonian magicka templars!

* fingers crossed *

I see what you did there and I will raise you with an Argonian Stamina Templar.

Khaos_Bane

Lettigall wrote: »

Today's meta most likely will be meta in next update. Mag sorcs and stamblades aren't going anywhere, they are safe bet to be meta in next update. Maybe DKs gonna get some love, but doubt that it will be enough to make them meta. Templars? Don't make me laugh, they probably gonna get nerf.

It is interesting how the nerf cannon is always pointed at the Templar for some reason. ZoS has really jacked the class up IMO. I still like playing mine but the skills are an absolute mess.

anitajoneb17_ESO

I don't know but I expect magicka sorc to take a huge nerf in the face, since we've been top of the pops for quite a while now...
I guess templars and DKs will be buffed and back up again.

NeillMcAttack

I'm gonna make a couple predictions for battlegrounds/arenas.
Stam blades and other glass cannon builds will be very weak in the beginning. Sustain will be strongest as teams fight around ultimates. But as teams improve and are better co-ordinated early burst damage and ganking moves will become strong.

Can't wait for some sort of battlegrounds.
Anyone know of Smite, or any MOBA's?!? How awesome would 5 on 5 battle arena ESO be??

Kas

Very hard to say. Imho it will be hard to change one part of the current meta:

If stamina is supposed to be at least close to magicka in pve, it will be very strong in pvp. The reasons

1) CPs have spellshield vs l/m/h focus and addition only hardy/elemenal but nothing for pyhsical defense.
2) good magicka builds use dots in pve - there are stamina dots (bow, rending, uf), but they are far less popular. for dps. those can be purged and counter healed in pvp. Burst is more dangerous.
3) Dodge roles are crucial for every build. They can better be supported by stamina builds.

That said, class balance for stamina classes comes down to 1) good stamina mrophs of class damage skills and 2) great utility magicka dumps.

Imho 2) is by FAR the more important thing. Fear and cloak are just superb. Igneous shield and fossilize are very strong. Purifying ritual, bshield, repentance, sorc armor are all nice but not as good as the others.

If templars would get blinding flashes back in the current meta, stamplars would be the fotm. However, there is no blinding flashes and I don#t think we'll see them again.

The other part are damage shields. I don't think they're too strong in general, but they are simply terrible OP against certain things (templar jab/sweeps), destructive touch, winterborn, etc, and actually also siege damage. The whole def defense but no crit damage thing is weird but I could accept it. However, secondary effects on-damage not working against shields (templars burning light, destro knockback, winterborn proc, etc, etc) really ruin some builds. If siege damage becomes strong and especially oil catas slow people so that metbags hit them and leave unprugeable heal debuffs, then barriers HVAE to be changed or they will be the primary to only meaningful defense mechanism used.

Again, we don't know much yet and everything can change. For all that we know (changed sieges, not much else), I'd guess that mobile mag sorcs and stam blades that set up sieges and run around in dark cloak or blink in between, will dominate.

But let's see what else gets changed

BlackEar

Stamplar. On rotation

Robbmrp

wayfarerx wrote: »

Argonian magicka templars!

* fingers crossed *

With 501 CP an Argonian Stamplar could be quite the damage dealer. With their potion and healing bonuses, it opens up more options for CP placement. Their only "questionable" passive is the swim speed. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with their passives IMO. If ZOS changed the Swim Speed to anything else, they'd be a pretty good class.

NateAssassin

Future meta will be to use pillows as weapons and all skills removed

Strider_Roshin

Magicka sorc or magicka Nightblade. Stamina builds are going to be weaker in every aspect once they come out with a resist physical damage passive.

OGLezard

Doncellius wrote: »

@MisterBigglesworth I'm glad you pointed that out. Perhaps it is the min/maxed build, otherwise known as the 1% of all players.....

you mean the 96% of all players, everyone wants to ride the streamers way of thinking and playing. The minority are people who want to be creative and find different ways to be effective instead of the most op blah blah combo

OGLezard

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Magicka sorc or magicka Nightblade. Stamina builds are going to be weaker in every aspect once they come out with a resist physical damage passive.

sooooooo like what they did to magicka for stamina the entire year?

xellink

we know two things.

increased cp
some form of organised pvp.

my vote goes towards sustain builds. cps will become more and more effective soft caps as they are raised. also. due to having more equal numbers of each attribute, having higher cp cap also means less and less players will get 1-shotted leading to less and less glass cannon builds.

Zheg

New fotm build? People who sit on siege and left click.