Werewolf or vampire for nightblade

thetotemofhungry

werewolf or vamp for nightblade i am kajhit and friend is dark elf nightblade which one would be better for us

MaxwellC

Vampires ultimate clouding sworm as a NB = train wrecking someone. I've faced many MagNBs with cloud sworm in fear/prox det sometimes I die and sometimes they die.

Plus you have some skills that just sit well with a NB like mist form

thetotemofhungry

any reason why for vampire?

Oldmanlawlor

Vampires have a thick coating of petroleum on their skin. They are insanely flammable.

Like... Super flammable...

Decayed_Inside

Are you stamina or magika? Stamina-WW magika-Vamp

templesus

Neither.

thetotemofhungry

why u say neither?

RapturousRex

Would a stamblade be alright as a Vamp?

Khaos_Bane

Sweet.

mike.eso

If you are stamina - WW
if you are magicka - Vamp

If you don't want to give up a slot for one of the skills to get the passives, or you aren't going to utilize the alts or skills, or don't want to be squishier (vamp) - Stay Human

mike.eso

ults*

sirrmattus

thetotemofhungry wrote: »

werewolf or vamp for nightblade i am kajhit and friend is dark elf nightblade which one would be better for us

Just stick to normal form.. unless ur RP.

leepalmer95

Clouding swarm + surprise / concelaed spam is pretty much a guarantee kill.

It does make you squishy though, dawnbreaker is bad for you. Most sorc use it, most templars do as well.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Why choose a vampire?

They are simply a more powerful creature then a werewolf that's why you should choose them.

Septimus_Magna

Magicka NBs have the increased movement speed in stealth from Conceiled Weapon so you dont necessarily need to be vamp. Batswarm is a good ultimate but Soul Thether is better with Proxi Det because it deals all dmg instantly.

Stamina NBs dont have increased movement speed in stealth, this is the main reason why my stam NB is a vamp. Im also using Flawless Dawnbreaker as ultimate on my main bar so in this case its useful to Batswarm on my second bar because it deals dmg over 6 seconds.

WW can also work for stam builds but I dont have much experience with this personally.

This is speaking from a pvp perspective, from a pve perspective I dont see any reason to go vamp tbh.

leepalmer95

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Magicka NBs have the increased movement speed in stealth from Conceiled Weapon so you dont necessarily need to be vamp. Batswarm is a good ultimate but Soul Thether is better with Proxi Det because it deals all dmg instantly.

Stamina NBs dont have increased movement speed in stealth, this is the main reason why my stam NB is a vamp. Im also using Flawless Dawnbreaker as ultimate on my main bar so in this case its useful to Batswarm on my second bar because it deals dmg over 6 seconds.

WW can also work for stam builds but I dont have much experience with this personally.

This is speaking from a pvp perspective, from a pve perspective I dont see any reason to go vamp tbh.

The proxy det+ sap + clouding is also strong for killing groups

Also the concealed + movement from vamp stacks, hence why it hard to keep them pinned with aoes or such and stop them going into cloak.

Didgerion

Neither is good for a night blade.

Werewolf - the only plus is the stamina regeneration while you have the ultimate slotted. But you won't want to go werewolf form why would you? You already have fear, self heals , strong hitting and cheap skills and you will louse the ability to go stealth while in WW form.

Vampires has more useful perks tho...but that fire damage and fighter guilds ability will 2 shot you.
The vampire's speed bonus while in stealth mode is very cool and the ultimate is powerful as well.

LBxFinalDeath

A good Full on weapon damage Stamblade Werewolf can 1vX decent sized groups on its own. (I say good full on weapon damage since well...if you're lacking in that department it'll turn into a whoever has more sustain wins fight)

I'd recommend investing in immovable pots if you go WW...if you do it eliminates the major weakness of WW.

Vampire on the other hand...well to excel as a Vampire its mandatory to be Magicka in order to get the most out of it.

BUT...if you go magicka you could go for the zerg buster build.

Werewolf is the king of burst DPS for the record, the knockdown roar does ice comet damage on its own without any of the damage buffs you can use in werewolf form if you're morphed fully.

The two shots are too real.

DRXHarbinger

Lol my WW eats vampires without a second thought. You are weak pathetic things (note the buff QQ threads lately) WWs are beast. Gap closers with stun, fear, knock downs, self heals and monster damage and regen and resistances (not many people use poison except me on my sorcs staff) what more could you want. They are monsters. Stick a Kena set on and you'll become god beast just attacking as normal and no sustain issues. No question WW is far superior to the vamps. Of course it's a timed thing but play it right and you'll feast on emporer flesh.

DurzoBlint13

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Are you stamina or magika? Stamina-WW magika-Vamp

this! The resource pool you draw from determines which you would be better with

joe.smith21b14_ESO

Didgerion wrote: »

Neither is good for a night blade.

Werewolf - the only plus is the stamina regeneration while you have the ultimate slotted. But you won't want to go werewolf form why would you? You already have fear, self heals , strong hitting and cheap skills and you will louse the ability to go stealth while in WW form.

Vampires has more useful perks tho...but that fire damage and fighter guilds ability will 2 shot you.
The vampire's speed bonus while in stealth mode is very cool and the ultimate is powerful as well.

This guy has no idea what he's talking about

mr1sho

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Why choose a vampire?

They are simply a more powerful creature then a werewolf that's why you should choose them.

I will eat a vamp for a snack with my ww

mr1sho

If you're a stam build dps WW all the way I have two dps nb both dominates especially when in WW form I kill most people in one roar I can also animation cancel while in WW form so it's make me more deadly only draw back is not poison it's camouflage hunter when they catch you in ww form it's going to hurt

Volkodav

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Vampires ultimate clouding sworm as a NB = train wrecking someone. I've faced many MagNBs with cloud sworm in fear/prox det sometimes I die and sometimes they die.

Plus you have some skills that just sit well with a NB like mist form

I've tried the cloud Swarm,but it doesnt really do so much.

Kryank

I run vamp on my stam NB, clouding swarm is a great ulti, I also use elusive mist, it has saved my hide so many times in 1vX, shuffle > dodge roll > elusive mist, then hide whilst in mist means that you go invisible whilst in mist more than you would think, it's better in 1vx than cloak as cloak is easily broken and gives no damage reduction.

I use mist as a stall to let rally give me a bigger heal when I come out, or to regen stamina, or wait for a pot cool down.

But being a vamp don't run around in the open, keep stealth or in groups when travelling or you will get 1 shot by camo, heavy silver shards combo.

Tankqull

Mikmak wrote: »

If you are stamina - WW
if you are magicka - Vamp

If you don't want to give up a slot for one of the skills to get the passives, or you aren't going to utilize the alts or skills, or don't want to be squishier (vamp) - Stay Human

actually if your stamina -> vamp - as you have no access to stealth speed buffs but crappy night silence 5pc wich is essential for beeing a NB in PvP(for PvE go WW with a stam build).

as a magica NB it doesent matter as you have concealed weapon.

Septimus_Magna

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Magicka NBs have the increased movement speed in stealth from Conceiled Weapon so you dont necessarily need to be vamp. Batswarm is a good ultimate but Soul Thether is better with Proxi Det because it deals all dmg instantly.

Stamina NBs dont have increased movement speed in stealth, this is the main reason why my stam NB is a vamp. Im also using Flawless Dawnbreaker as ultimate on my main bar so in this case its useful to Batswarm on my second bar because it deals dmg over 6 seconds.

WW can also work for stam builds but I dont have much experience with this personally.

This is speaking from a pvp perspective, from a pve perspective I dont see any reason to go vamp tbh.

The proxy det+ sap + clouding is also strong for killing groups

Also the concealed + movement from vamp stacks, hence why it hard to keep them pinned with aoes or such and stop them going into cloak.

I would personally prefer Soul Thether on magicka NB because its burst dmg (which makes it harder to outheal) and you can slot it on your main bar (stam NBs slot Flawless Dawnbreaker for the increased weapon dmg).

Vamp works on magicka NBs for sure but it does make you a lot more squishy. Especially against Camo Hunter and Dawnbreakers.

Tankqull

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Magicka NBs have the increased movement speed in stealth from Conceiled Weapon so you dont necessarily need to be vamp. Batswarm is a good ultimate but Soul Thether is better with Proxi Det because it deals all dmg instantly.

Stamina NBs dont have increased movement speed in stealth, this is the main reason why my stam NB is a vamp. Im also using Flawless Dawnbreaker as ultimate on my main bar so in this case its useful to Batswarm on my second bar because it deals dmg over 6 seconds.

WW can also work for stam builds but I dont have much experience with this personally.

This is speaking from a pvp perspective, from a pve perspective I dont see any reason to go vamp tbh.

The proxy det+ sap + clouding is also strong for killing groups

Also the concealed + movement from vamp stacks, hence why it hard to keep them pinned with aoes or such and stop them going into cloak.

I would personally prefer Soul Thether on magicka NB because its burst dmg (which makes it harder to outheal) and you can slot it on your main bar (stam NBs slot Flawless Dawnbreaker for the increased weapon dmg).

Vamp works on magicka NBs for sure but it does make you a lot more squishy. Especially against Camo Hunter and Dawnbreakers.

well with soul harvest granting massive ulti gain in such situations (not using it on your main bar is a hasrh self restriction), i prefer using bats on my off bar as it is much easier to use especially as in those situations the latency spikes rather quick leading to a hefty desync in displayed char position and laydown position of Soul thether leading to no dmg at all as it is dropped 10m behind me ...