Skills called by specific morph name

Joy_Division

In hopes your balance changes address some of these issues...

Templar
Toppling Charge
Blazing Shield (well, it was known by this when people actually used the ability)
Breath of Life
Repentance
Channeled Focus

DK
Take Flight (or "leap")
Dragon Fire Scale (or "wings")
Igneous Shield
Fossilize

Sorcerer
Crystal Fragments (or "frags")
Hardened Ward
Boundless Storm
Streak

Nightblade
Piercing Mark
Soul Harvest
Veil of Blades
Dark Cloak (or "cloak")
"Fear" (instead of Mass Hysteria)
"Siphon" (short for Siphoning Attacks)
Sap Essence

Weapons
Wrecking Blow
Executioner
Rally
Pierce Armor
Reverberating Bash
Steel Tornado
Flying Blade
Elemental Drain
Healing Springs
Healing Ward

Guild / Alliance / Other
Camouflaged Hunter (or "camo")
Structured Entropy
Shuffle
Soul Assault
Aggressive War Horn (or "horn")
Retreating Maneuver (or "rapids")

Brrrofski

I don't get it?

Are you relating to the skill, but people only ever call it the one morph?

If so, it's because they're the only morphs people ever take...

Joy_Division

Brrrofski wrote: »

I don't get it?

Are you relating to the skill, but people only ever call it the one morph?

If so, it's because they're the only morphs people ever take...

Pretty much.

If a skill is usually referred to by a specific morph, then that is because the other morph is bad and needs to be addressed in order to give us a game with options, diverse builds, and different experiences from day to day.

Brrrofski

Yeh, I agree. Some morphs are really pathetic.

I disagree with Pierce armor though. A lot of people in pvp take Ransack. I've say it's more Ransack than Pierce armor

RAGUNAnoOne

Check out the video by @Sypher about DK issues he goes to explain this in detail.

Lexxypwns

Joy_Division wrote: »

In hopes your balance changes address some of these issues...

Templar
Toppling Charge
Blazing Shield (well, it was known by this when people actually used the ability)
Breath of Life
Repentance
Channeled Focus

DK
Take Flight (or "leap")
Dragon Fire Scale (or "wings")
Igneous Shield
Fossilize

Sorcerer
Crystal Fragments (or "frags")
Hardened Ward
Boundless Storm
Streak

Nightblade
Piercing Mark
Soul Harvest
Veil of Blades
Dark Cloak (or "cloak")
"Fear" (instead of Mass Hysteria)
"Siphon" (short for Siphoning Attacks)
Sap Essence

Weapons
Wrecking Blow
Executioner
Rally
Pierce Armor
Reverberating Bash
Steel Tornado
Flying Blade
Elemental Drain
Healing Springs
Healing Ward

Guild / Alliance / Other
Camouflaged Hunter (or "camo")
Structured Entropy
Shuffle
Soul Assault
Aggressive War Horn (or "horn")
Retreating Maneuver (or "rapids")

I mostly agree with this list, but both morphs of entropy are viable, overload sorcs and any heavy attack based magika build should be running degeneration, there's no need to look into changing it. Also, Illustrious healing is actually the better morph of healing springs, people just don't run it because most of the people still using healing springs for pvp are just spamming it for AP/lag generation

Stonesthrow

Can we also work on having a display as to how far a morph has already been trained up while in the selection screen for said morph while respeccing?

Think that would be handy, along with the actual morphed skill in "K" listing what the original skill pre-morph was. Would make it easier to help out newer players as to a suggest direction to go... or when helping someone respec to quickly explain which pre-morph skill you are talking about when you can't remember the original name.

Joy_Division

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

In hopes your balance changes address some of these issues...

Templar
Toppling Charge
Blazing Shield (well, it was known by this when people actually used the ability)
Breath of Life
Repentance
Channeled Focus

DK
Take Flight (or "leap")
Dragon Fire Scale (or "wings")
Igneous Shield
Fossilize

Sorcerer
Crystal Fragments (or "frags")
Hardened Ward
Boundless Storm
Streak

Nightblade
Piercing Mark
Soul Harvest
Veil of Blades
Dark Cloak (or "cloak")
"Fear" (instead of Mass Hysteria)
"Siphon" (short for Siphoning Attacks)
Sap Essence

Weapons
Wrecking Blow
Executioner
Rally
Pierce Armor
Reverberating Bash
Steel Tornado
Flying Blade
Elemental Drain
Healing Springs
Healing Ward

Guild / Alliance / Other
Camouflaged Hunter (or "camo")
Structured Entropy
Shuffle
Soul Assault
Aggressive War Horn (or "horn")
Retreating Maneuver (or "rapids")

I mostly agree with this list, but both morphs of entropy are viable, overload sorcs and any heavy attack based magika build should be running degeneration, there's no need to look into changing it. Also, Illustrious healing is actually the better morph of healing springs, people just don't run it because most of the people still using healing springs for pvp are just spamming it for AP/lag generation

It's not so much whether I think the other morphs are viable or whether or not a specific PvP build is better off using ransack because they play solo and are not reliant on spells killing their target.

It's what I have heard most other people refer to these skills as.

And, as a healer, I can assure you I use the healing springs spell for something other than lagging out the server,

Xvorg

Joy_Division wrote: »

In hopes your balance changes address some of these issues...



Nightblade
Piercing Mark (reapers mark Major berserk buff should be no less than 10 secs to make it viable or should be given on cast)
Soul Harvest (Physical dmg for incp strike should make it)
Veil of Blades (Bolst darkness should cost less than 200 ulti, the price you get for what it does is just stupid)
Dark Cloak (or "cloak") (shadowy disguise with minor berserk or empower should make the trick)
"Fear" (instead of Mass Hysteria) (manif of terror should be used at range (15 mts)... I'd love it as a mageblade)
"Siphon" (short for Siphoning Attacks) (Even siphon spirit from resto tree is more popular at parties than leeching strikes.. total rework... it should procs on each attack not only basic attacks. )
Sap Essence (power extraction should take your enemies power... major maim and we have a viable NB stamina tank option in pve)

Some options that would make me consider using the other morph in a NB

What about Harnesss Magicka (v/s Dampen Magic)

Joy_Division

Xvorg wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

In hopes your balance changes address some of these issues...



Nightblade
Piercing Mark (reapers mark Major berserk buff should be no less than 10 secs to make it viable or should be given on cast)
Soul Harvest (Physical dmg for incp strike should make it)
Veil of Blades (Bolst darkness should cost less than 200 ulti, the price you get for what it does is just stupid)
Dark Cloak (or "cloak") (shadowy disguise with minor berserk or empower should make the trick)
"Fear" (instead of Mass Hysteria) (manif of terror should be used at range (15 mts)... I'd love it as a mageblade)
"Siphon" (short for Siphoning Attacks) (Even siphon spirit from resto tree is more popular at parties than leeching strikes.. total rework... it should procs on each attack not only basic attacks. )
Sap Essence (power extraction should take your enemies power... major maim and we have a viable NB stamina tank option in pve)

Some options that would make me consider using the other morph in a NB

What about Harnesss Magicka (v/s Dampen Magic)

Thought about it. Never heard anyone call it Dampen for sure, even though I know a fair number use it. It's close but I do hear people say Annulment occasionally.

Cinbri

Also GDB(green dragon blood), i rarely meet anyone who using Coagulated Blood even today.
Also Dark Flare, noone using Solar Barrage

Dread_Guy

Templar - radiant oppression. Idk anyone who uses radiant glory

Total dark or "eclipse" - the only time I see unstable core is from resource guards

Lithium Flower

Eh, I use coagulating blood on my tank, though I still call it GDB because of habit from when Green was great for tanking but now, half the bonus doesn't apply when you're blocking (the big hits, which is also when you use tend to use the ability) so why not get more healing.

I also use illustrious healing on the odd occasion when I do use the ability. Resource management hasn't been an issue in so long but I continue to refer to it as Healing Springs, again because of habit.

Channeled Focus - I have two v16 Templar healers and I can't even remember what the other morph is called.

Healing Ward (No one ever uses Ward Ally to my knowledge)

Liquid Lightning - I don't think anyone uses Lightning Flood.

Eruption - the other morph used to be useful, don't remember the name any more.

Tyrion87

I would also add to that list at least:
Inner Light
Bound Aegis
Daedric Minefield
and I think Velocious Curse as well which I see more often than the Daedric Curse or than the other morph - is there another morph at all?

Xvorg

Crippling grasp. I'm still looking for someone who uses debilitate

Erdmanski

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I would also add to that list at least:
Inner Light
Bound Aegis
Daedric Minefield
and I think Velocious Curse as well which I see more often than the Daedric Curse or than the other morph - is there another morph at all?

Radiant Magelight is used by a lot of people in PVP.
Bound Armaments is used by a lot of Stam Sorc builds
I've seen Daedric Tomb used by some people.
Also to the OP, a lot of non-NB's use Evil Hunter instead of Camo Hunter

I think people are getting carried away with this. Yes, there are quite a few skills with an obvious morph, but it's not every skill like people are trying to make it out to be.