460 V16 materials wasted

JacobyRust

Wrong press of a button and bam all the materials I worked for gone...and since ZOS and their infinite wisdom decide customer service isn't a thing I have no hope of ever getting them back. Yep time to move on from this game now.

lolo_01b16_ESO

If you deconstruct items that you crafted yourself you'll get a noticable amout of the materials back. (About 40-50% on a max level crafter from my experience).
And in my opinion loosing half of the materials is reasonable when someone doesn't pay attention on what he's doing.

Ackwalan

How could you lose 460 mats in one press of a button?

JacobyRust

Not a literal one button press I just wasn't tabed over to set pieces and crafted the wrong thing. I'm not blaming ZOS btw I lm aware I made the mistake. I'm just frustrated that it won't be fixed considering the time, money, and effort I invest in game. To lose everything over a simple mistake is a bit devastating. Also I got 100 pieces back from decon well under half

DaveMoeDee

Welcome to life. Things you do have repercussions. Staffing is irrelevant. As a policy, they shouldn't fix stuff like that for people.

Are you using a gamepad? I could see myself making a mistake like this on a gamepad. When I play games with gamepads, I often press the wrong button. Probably not though when crafting. I am insanely careful when crafting, especially with high value items. Double and triple check. I'm very neurotic.

nordsavage

Measure twice, cut once. Good habit of any tradesman

JacobyRust

I'll keep that in mind if I decide to give it another 12 hours of grinding.

DannyLV702

Making v16 gear was scary as hell for me for the fear of making a mistake. Probably took me an hour to make everything lol.

helediron

Yeah, VR16 crafting is NOT FUN these days. It's serious, scary business. I am a crafter, can craft everything, big stock, rich, and even i am nervous with every VR16 item. I shut off TS and music and triple-check everything. When i get orders through mail, i often also get whispers, "did you get it?", "Are the amounts correct", "Are yo done?", "Did you already send them back?", "Can't see in my mail!, help!". Fear is strong in crafting these days. I can imagine my clients gnawing their fingernails. For them it's all their savings, and they might lose it. People order only sure sets, minimizing risks, instead of exploring possiblities, experimenting, enjoying. *I* have lost several hundreds of VR16 mats when i made errors and silently fixed them from my own stock.

Dexter411

helediron wrote: »

Yeah, VR16 crafting is NOT FUN these days. It's serious, scary business. I am a crafter, can craft everything, big stock, rich, and even i am nervous with every VR16 item. I shut off TS and music and triple-check everything. When i get orders through mail, i often also get whispers, "did you get it?", "Are the amounts correct", "Are yo done?", "Did you already send them back?", "Can't see in my mail!, help!". Fear is strong in crafting these days. I can imagine my clients gnawing their fingernails. For them it's all their savings, and they might lose it. People order only sure sets, minimizing risks, instead of exploring possiblities, experimenting, enjoying. *I* have lost several hundreds of VR16 mats when i made errors and silently fixed them from my own stock.

I know that feeling. I spend over 30min just to make sure everything is like the person wanted. I told him i was finishing quest while i sit there on crafting station checking everything. Imagine if You had server rollback, heart attack guaranteed. Btw, last time i checked You get more profit selling vr9-vr15 mats to NPC rather then othe people. Yeah, Good Job ZOS, well done.

Robbmrp

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

If you deconstruct items that you crafted yourself you'll get a noticable amout of the materials back. (About 40-50% on a max level crafter from my experience).
And in my opinion loosing half of the materials is reasonable when someone doesn't pay attention on what he's doing.

I'm sorry but that's not accurate. Deconstructing a V16 piece of gear gives less than 20 of that material back. Considering a Chest piece takes 150 mats for it, it's more like 13% return if that.

puffy99

Well I bet you wont make that mistake again..
life lesson #1

helediron

I have also lost mats when i did top tier gear writs. There is a bug where the crafting table silently switches to VR16 when VR15 was originally selected. ZOS even claims it's fixed, but it's not. Now i do top tier gear writs with only one crafter VERY carefully. All others have downgraded back to Craglorn gear writs.

Zouni

I have made similiar mistakes. Made vr16 gold gear at a armor set location only to realize that I did not select the set for its ability and made regular armor instead. Painful, costly mistake!

Nestor

helediron wrote: »

People order only sure sets, minimizing risks, instead of exploring possiblities, experimenting, enjoying.

When I am trying out a new crafted set now, I make it in VR14 White both the old and the new. Then compare just those items on my character to see which is more effective between the two (not what I had on) then once I know what is going to work, I make it in VR15 or 16. Well, I only make weapons in VR16 as I don't have enough mats to kit out my 3 VR16s (well, one is VR15 but will soon be VR16)

Xellos77

What's the variance between V15 and V16 gear? Like 1-2%? It sucks losing all those materials but personally I didn't even bother farming for V16 materials. Made V15 gear and left it at that. When I saw that for a 2% increase it took 10x the amount of materials to make gear, I laughed at the artificial grind to extend the content and thought about what could have been done instead. More raids. Better dungeon rewards. More endgame.

But yeah, when dealing with huge amounts of crafting materials for top-of-the-line gear, ALWAYS ensure you are hitting the correct buttons. Even if it takes you 30 minutes to craft it all.

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention.. you're own mistake and now the game is bad enough to walk away from? At least walk away for reasons beyond you're control, such as my above-noted points regarding raids/dungeons. To each their own, however. Good luck with your next set though. As mentioned earlier, measure twice, cut once

Reverb

JacobyRust wrote: »

Not a literal one button press I just wasn't tabed over to set pieces and crafted the wrong thing. I'm not blaming ZOS btw I lm aware I made the mistake. I'm just frustrated that it won't be fixed considering the time, money, and effort I invest in game. To lose everything over a simple mistake is a bit devastating. Also I got 100 pieces back from decon well under half

Your frustration is misplaced, and should be directed only at yourself. Every crafter has accidentally wasted mats or deconned a precious item. One scroll too many and I made a v16 cuirass for a writ instead of v15 a few days ago, 100+ rubedite ore wasted, oh well.

Zeni should not be expected to "fix" player mistakes.

Alucardo

Hah, reminds me of this guy: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/229672/look-at-my-shame-and-learn-controller-ui-differences

Bnec

happens to a lot of people , chin up and back 2 farming no reason to quit cos of 1 mistake

helediron

Reverb wrote: »

JacobyRust wrote: »

Not a literal one button press I just wasn't tabed over to set pieces and crafted the wrong thing. I'm not blaming ZOS btw I lm aware I made the mistake. I'm just frustrated that it won't be fixed considering the time, money, and effort I invest in game. To lose everything over a simple mistake is a bit devastating. Also I got 100 pieces back from decon well under half

Your frustration is misplaced, and should be directed only at yourself. Every crafter has accidentally wasted mats or deconned a precious item. One scroll too many and I made a v16 cuirass for a writ instead of v15 a few days ago, 100+ rubedite ore wasted, oh well.

Zeni should not be expected to "fix" player mistakes.

But there IS a bug for ZOS to fix, where the table switches from v15 to v16, not player. It doesn't happen every time. You can reproduce it by first selecting material to e.g. v15 and then scrolling items. The level does not stay at what you selected. That is just sloppy coding.

Abra

zos not expected to fix players mistake but expected to provide more mats in general- atm you need to farm for hours to get a full 7 pièces set + weapons- the daily writs at v16 do not return even enough mats overall- it is just plain bad and get people moving to other games.

Reverb wrote: »

JacobyRust wrote: »

Not a literal one button press I just wasn't tabed over to set pieces and crafted the wrong thing. I'm not blaming ZOS btw I lm aware I made the mistake. I'm just frustrated that it won't be fixed considering the time, money, and effort I invest in game. To lose everything over a simple mistake is a bit devastating. Also I got 100 pieces back from decon well under half

Your frustration is misplaced, and should be directed only at yourself. Every crafter has accidentally wasted mats or deconned a precious item. One scroll too many and I made a v16 cuirass for a writ instead of v15 a few days ago, 100+ rubedite ore wasted, oh well.

Zeni should not be expected to "fix" player mistakes.

Soleya

Xellos77 wrote: »

What's the variance between V15 and V16 gear? Like 1-2%? It sucks losing all those materials but personally I didn't even bother farming for V16 materials. Made V15 gear and left it at that. When I saw that for a 2% increase it took 10x the amount of materials to make gear, I laughed at the artificial grind to extend the content and thought about what could have been done instead. More raids. Better dungeon rewards. More endgame.

The stat difference between V15 and V16 is about 1-2%, but the enchantment difference is more like 12%. That can equate to another nearly 1000 magicka or stamina.

However, I do agree that the 10x material need is a ridiculous artificial grind that add's nothing to end game and is just plain boring.