Wait....now your delivering KNOWN bugs to console?

Uberkull

I had to rewind and hear this again a few times. Unbelievable. You are giving console the broken Battle Spirit you delivered to PC, and you know it, yet you still are delivering the broken patch to console.

Seriously...I don't want the patch. How about that? Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap. But let me guess, you already submitted it to MS/PSN so it's too late....right?

I'd like to know how it's remotely possible that you didn't see the Battel Spirit bug. All you had to do was login and look at your health in Cyrodiil. If you played your own game at all, you would know in a instant if your health was off on your VR16 because you play it everyday. INSTANTLY KNOW IT.

The real problem here is that on console we get patches months after something is identified as broken because of the lengthy console certification process....so we're screwed until at least March on this issue. Much like the Guild bank issue with the IC patch and the no prices in the Guild Store issue....two months before a fix came.

I'm just tired of it.

19:19 into the video...
http://youtu.be/Q8m14tUK43U

jcasini222ub17_ESO

It kinda stays with the theme since pc launch though. If something went stupid on pc na and pc eu was patching next more often then not that stupid would continue its merry way into pc eu. Same holds true for those very, very, very rare occasions pc eu patches before pc na. We share in misery, but you know this, so just think of it as keeping to status qou.

Ruben

Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap.

PM this to all other console players waiting for the fixes, let's see what they think of your genius idea.

Uberkull

Ruben wrote: »

Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap.

PM this to all other console players waiting for the fixes, let's see what they think of your genius idea.

Is this the streamer Ruben? LoL ...you recognize my name? Check your donations.

Genius idea is pretty elementary. What does this patch actually give us that benefits the console? It's not a DLC patch. It a bug patch that's introducing more bugs. We don't need it until the next iteration....when it's right.

Wollust

You wanted patchs right?

NeillMcAttack

Ruben wrote: »

Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap.

PM this to all other console players waiting for the fixes, let's see what they think of your genius idea.

I think you miss the point, It's a known issue that may affect certain individuals builds. Sure, we understand that there is a schedule to maintain, but at the same time this move just shows evidence of console players, while having spent the same money, to be receiving a lower level of quality.

Lightninvash

honestly they prob sent it in to Microsoft/psn shortly after they put it on pc so when accepted it was the same version that they sent. is what most likely happened

elias.stormneb18_ESO

They can't just take it away from the patch now. It's WAY too late for that. Would you rather have a patch without the bug next week or a patch this week with a fix next week? I don't think that you understand how all this works. Also they can't just make their employees work extra because of ONE MINOR bug, that's stupid!

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Well you are talking about a company that launched the game with a KNOWN gold dupe glitch (after being warned about it in beta). After all this time, this kind of cavalier attitude about quality isn't much of a surprise. With all of the times Matt Firor said "No ETA" in this last ESO live, I think the development team is well insulated and unconscious of their own mediocrity after almost two years of game crippling bugs, and missed delivery dates.

Artjuh90

well we get text0chat so i'm contend for a while now

RAGUNAnoOne

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Wollust

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Well it depends on your build and race, but you will lose health as the cyrodiil health bonus isn't being affected by percentage modifiers anymore. I lost between 700-1200 health on my characters. My buddy with an imperial nb lost 2k health.

danno8

I agree it sucks. But if you waited for bugs to be fixed before getting a patch on console, you would simply never get a patch ever. Granted the health bonus is a bit of a large one (especially for the few players who actually stack health).

This problem is unfortunately baked into the system.

Tomato

They have been doing this on PC for the last 2 years. Welcome to the fold

Draxys

They've been delivering known bugs for over 2 years lol

RAGUNAnoOne

Wollust wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Well it depends on your build and race, but you will lose health as the cyrodiil health bonus isn't being affected by percentage modifiers anymore. I lost between 700-1200 health on my characters. My buddy with an imperial nb lost 2k health.

So this will essentially nerf EP and in some points DC but orcs have stamina as well... to all the EP zerg complainers now 2 of EPs races loose health bonuses the only passive they have that is worth a damn so if you can't burn them down, shut up.

Artjuh90

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Well it depends on your build and race, but you will lose health as the cyrodiil health bonus isn't being affected by percentage modifiers anymore. I lost between 700-1200 health on my characters. My buddy with an imperial nb lost 2k health.

So this will essentially nerf EP and in some points DC but orcs have stamina as well... to all the EP zerg complainers now 2 of EPs races loose health bonuses the only passive they have that is worth a damn so if you can't burn them down, shut up.

don't most people have the any alliance any race anyway?

Magdalina

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap.

PM this to all other console players waiting for the fixes, let's see what they think of your genius idea.

I think you miss the point, It's a known issue that may affect certain individuals builds. Sure, we understand that there is a schedule to maintain, but at the same time this move just shows evidence of console players, while having spent the same money, to be receiving a lower level of quality.

Don't worry about that, PC recieves totally the same quality.

Skipping the whole launch with countless known bugs and a year of beta testing for consoles(no offence to you personally implied, that's definitely not console players' fault)...every time there's a big DLC people find game breaking issues on PTS and ZOS pushes them live. Every time they push a patch on NA that introduces game breaking bugs(I remember one which mixed up guild ranks or something so they had to turn off guilds COMPLETELY for DAYS...) it gets pushed onto EU several days later. In fact I can't remember a single time when having known bugs would stop them from pushing it live, can you guys?

Yes, I'm feeling bitter, grumpy and old these days lol, forgive the mood of my comments XD

Uberkull

elias.stormneb18_ESO wrote: »

They can't just take it away from the patch now. It's WAY too late for that. Would you rather have a patch without the bug next week or a patch this week with a fix next week? I don't think that you understand how all this works. Also they can't just make their employees work extra because of ONE MINOR bug, that's stupid!

I don't think you know how it works. ZOS delivered a broken pre IC patch which made the console bank unresponsive after one access and the Guild Store had no prices for items. We didn't get a fix the next week, we had to wait two months. It is not possible to client patch console issues week to week. They need to submit the patch to MS/PSN and then wait for approval. It's also a pretty major bug for pvp builds who rely on battle spirit to min/max their other resources and depend on battle spirit to put them over 20k health, the sweet spot.

So I'm fairly sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

DaveMoeDee

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Just forget the patch and give us NOTHING until you test and fix your crap.

PM this to all other console players waiting for the fixes, let's see what they think of your genius idea.

I think you miss the point, It's a known issue that may affect certain individuals builds. Sure, we understand that there is a schedule to maintain, but at the same time this move just shows evidence of console players, while having spent the same money, to be receiving a lower level of quality.

Nonsense. PC players have that same "quality" bug. No need for the victim mentality.

The patch is all or nothing and there are other fixes people want. They have determined that messing up health regen in BS is out-weighed by the other parts of the patch.

DaveMoeDee

Artjuh90 wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Well it depends on your build and race, but you will lose health as the cyrodiil health bonus isn't being affected by percentage modifiers anymore. I lost between 700-1200 health on my characters. My buddy with an imperial nb lost 2k health.

So this will essentially nerf EP and in some points DC but orcs have stamina as well... to all the EP zerg complainers now 2 of EPs races loose health bonuses the only passive they have that is worth a damn so if you can't burn them down, shut up.

don't most people have the any alliance any race anyway?

Most of the people who like to complain likely do.

Still a valid concern though. But it is temporary. Not a big deal.

RatedChaotic

I no longer get excited for patches or DLCs in this game. It usually turns into.....Crap another patch/dlc I have to go online again and respec to use the over powered broken skills again.

Jura23

Artjuh90 wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

May I ask @uberkull I heard battle spirit is having an issue with health passives (RIP EPs only advantage) but how bad is it screwed up?

Well it depends on your build and race, but you will lose health as the cyrodiil health bonus isn't being affected by percentage modifiers anymore. I lost between 700-1200 health on my characters. My buddy with an imperial nb lost 2k health.

So this will essentially nerf EP and in some points DC but orcs have stamina as well... to all the EP zerg complainers now 2 of EPs races loose health bonuses the only passive they have that is worth a damn so if you can't burn them down, shut up.

don't most people have the any alliance any race anyway?

What makes you think most ppl have this? Srious question.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

I know it sucks but we wouldn't want you to miss out on anything the pc players get, now would we.

^ (sarcasm) ^

Hiero_Glyph

There is so much bad information in this thread it's actually sad. Digital Extremes keeps the console player informed of when they submit an update to be certified, when it gets approved, and when they can release the patch. The entire process takes ~2 weeks with the only exception being if the release needs to be held until the following week like if it's approved on a Friday. 2 weeks in most cases (sometimes less), not months. ESO is no different in this regard and ZOS absolutely knows when they submit it for certification, when it is approved, and when it will be released yet they tell us almost nothing. Yeah, let's just keep pretending that this is Sony's or Microsoft's fault when nearly every other developer manages this process just fine.

Decayed_Inside

Remember the huge list of bug fixes when IC came out? weren't pretty much all of them know for long periods?

Alucardo

Text chat is coming to console. We couldn't have you being too happy, so a few bugs thrown in are needed to balance things out.

Atariz

Its really bad, I lost all desire to play the game after that last ESO live. The leadership at ZOS has been out of touch for a while now. Game won't last much longer with the way they're carrying things

mdylan2013

So it's only races with health bonuses as a racial passive? Or is every race going to lose a bit of health?

RAGUNAnoOne

Alucardo wrote: »

Text chat is coming to console. We couldn't have you being too happy, so a few bugs thrown in are needed to balance things out.

I don't give a damn about text chat since typing on PS4 sucks I want things that nerf more than half of a single faction to be fixed

Uberkull

mdylan2013 wrote: »

So it's only races with health bonuses as a racial passive? Or is every race going to lose a bit of health?

Battle Spirit does nothing now. You will have less health in Cyrodiil after tomorrows patch on console.