Magicka DK Tank?

billywink3b14_ESO

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

FlounderOG

Magicka DK tank is among the best builds you can have if done correctly. Stamina blocking takes up too much stamina to rely on.

You'll basically want the damage shield skills and the self heal spells witb a good armor set that will keep magicka stocked. I wouldnt use dragon leap as an ult.

Im not an expert though, so somebody else should chime in. I just know that they are infuriating to kill.

KozawahGaming

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

Basically you'd be a sorc with the current meta; you'd shield stack. I have restarted 2 different dragonknights now and I'm just researching all the traits I can before I actually start leveling the current one.

exeeter702

In theory your mitigation is coming from self heals and absorbs via magicka, so your damage shouldnt be that nerfed right? Or is it in the CP allocation where damage takes the backseat?

billywink3b14_ESO

FlounderOG wrote: »

Magicka DK tank is among the best builds you can have if done correctly. Stamina blocking takes up too much stamina to rely on.

You'll basically want the damage shield skills and the self heal spells witb a good armor set that will keep magicka stocked. I wouldnt use dragon leap as an ult.

Im not an expert though, so somebody else should chime in. I just know that they are infuriating to kill.

What other ultimate would you use? I was thinking Leap because it's very cheap and I would use the morph for the shield.

billywink3b14_ESO

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

Basically you'd be a sorc with the current meta; you'd shield stack. I have restarted 2 different dragonknights now and I'm just researching all the traits I can before I actually start leveling the current one.

I would be using 1h/shield and resto staff then correct?
Would you think wearing 5 heavy/2 light would be best? I would assume so but I'm not sure, I'm pretty newish to the game.

FlounderOG

There are a few shields you can use along with some undaunted and armor skills that decrease damage done to you. I think I also had a weapon that gave a damage shield upon light attack for a few seconds.

KozawahGaming

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

Basically you'd be a sorc with the current meta; you'd shield stack. I have restarted 2 different dragonknights now and I'm just researching all the traits I can before I actually start leveling the current one.

I would be using 1h/shield and resto staff then correct?
Would you think wearing 5 heavy/2 light would be best? I would assume so but I'm not sure, I'm pretty newish to the game.

If you want Magicka DK tank, with how the game currently works Heavy Armor is rubbish on a Magicka build without a lot of champion points. But I'm going to be attempting it with my new DK. 7 Light until you get Undaunted rank 10. If you want DPS Sword and Board with Resto is what you want yes.

billywink3b14_ESO

Good to know ty .

I'm wondering if I should just do double 1h/shield on both bars and use igneous shield, annulment, reflective scales, and bone armor and not have healing ward from resto staff? Because you only get healed by the amount of the shield left when it expires?

So if players bring down your shield before its timer it won't heal you correct? So I'm assuming if I'm tanking in PVP my shield will be brought down quickly?

billywink3b14_ESO

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

Basically you'd be a sorc with the current meta; you'd shield stack. I have restarted 2 different dragonknights now and I'm just researching all the traits I can before I actually start leveling the current one.

I would be using 1h/shield and resto staff then correct?
Would you think wearing 5 heavy/2 light would be best? I would assume so but I'm not sure, I'm pretty newish to the game.

If you want Magicka DK tank, with how the game currently works Heavy Armor is rubbish on a Magicka build without a lot of champion points. But I'm going to be attempting it with my new DK. 7 Light until you get Undaunted rank 10. If you want DPS Sword and Board with Resto is what you want yes.

Oh no I want to straight up tank for now

KozawahGaming

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

KozawahGaming wrote: »

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

Is this even a possibility for PVP or is stamina the only way since you are going to be blocking a lot? I'm not looking to kill people at where I'm at right now (I'm only lvl 23) just be able to hold off some people in the raid while we try to take keeps, etc. until I get to V16 then see if I want to continue that route or try something new.

I was anticipating playing the build using burning talons, inhale, spike armor, and some other skills with my ultimate being dragon leap and magma armor.

Basically you'd be a sorc with the current meta; you'd shield stack. I have restarted 2 different dragonknights now and I'm just researching all the traits I can before I actually start leveling the current one.

I would be using 1h/shield and resto staff then correct?
Would you think wearing 5 heavy/2 light would be best? I would assume so but I'm not sure, I'm pretty newish to the game.

If you want Magicka DK tank, with how the game currently works Heavy Armor is rubbish on a Magicka build without a lot of champion points. But I'm going to be attempting it with my new DK. 7 Light until you get Undaunted rank 10. If you want DPS Sword and Board with Resto is what you want yes.

Oh no I want to straight up tank for now

Yeah if you want to tank in PvP, Light Armor is the best choice right now.

ListerJMC

I have a magicka DK tank who pvps, but I'm still doing a lot of testing so I'm definitely not an expert here.

I wear 5 heavy and 2 light. She doesn't go down as easily compared to others, but she hits like a wet noodle (but her kill stats say she's beat 12 people so far! So that's something!). Her regeneration compared to others is terrible though due to her armor, so I'm considering trying full light as others in here have said.

I'm still figuring out armor sets and CP. I'm alternating between different tank-based and magicka-based sets in my armor testing, focusing on making sure I'm able to survive and have enough magicka to keep my protections up. My CP is being focused on resource regeneration, protection and block cost reduction so far; with a little bit of damage improvement thrown in for good measure.

But I've respecced her 3 times now and I'm sure I will again! So much to test and learn!

billywink3b14_ESO

ListerJMC wrote: »

I have a magicka DK tank who pvps, but I'm still doing a lot of testing so I'm definitely not an expert here.

I wear 5 heavy and 2 light. She doesn't go down as easily compared to others, but she hits like a wet noodle (but her kill stats say she's beat 12 people so far! So that's something!). Her regeneration compared to others is terrible though due to her armor, so I'm considering trying full light as others in here have said.

I'm still figuring out armor sets and CP. I'm alternating between different tank-based and magicka-based sets in my armor testing, focusing on making sure I'm able to survive and have enough magicka to keep my protections up. My CP is being focused on resource regeneration, protection and block cost reduction so far; with a little bit of damage improvement thrown in for good measure.

But I've respecced her 3 times now and I'm sure I will again! So much to test and learn!

Do you use double 1h/shield or secondary resto staff?

ListerJMC

billywink3b14_ESO wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I have a magicka DK tank who pvps, but I'm still doing a lot of testing so I'm definitely not an expert here.

I wear 5 heavy and 2 light. She doesn't go down as easily compared to others, but she hits like a wet noodle (but her kill stats say she's beat 12 people so far! So that's something!). Her regeneration compared to others is terrible though due to her armor, so I'm considering trying full light as others in here have said.

I'm still figuring out armor sets and CP. I'm alternating between different tank-based and magicka-based sets in my armor testing, focusing on making sure I'm able to survive and have enough magicka to keep my protections up. My CP is being focused on resource regeneration, protection and block cost reduction so far; with a little bit of damage improvement thrown in for good measure.

But I've respecced her 3 times now and I'm sure I will again! So much to test and learn!

Do you use double 1h/shield or secondary resto staff?

I have a secondary resto staff for pvp purposes. Since there aren't always good opportunities for tanking, I switch to that when I feel it'll be more useful to the damage dealers.

SRASinister

You really need the resto staff for heals though since DK heals are in a bad place.

RoamingRiverElk

What everyone considers to be sufficient tanking that they're happy with depends... But I would say, if you're going to be reaaaally tanking a lot of people on a dk, you will basically be doing no damage whatsoever, and every skill you use will be focused on simply surviving.

In that situation, a resto staff or resto heals will NOT save you. You won't have enough max magicka to benefit enough from Blessing of Restoration because you need to be blocking at the same time as you're healing, with a shield, for the damage mitigation and so that you don't go out of stamina. Healing Ward would only work well if you had a strong damage shield to couple that with, but you wont' have such a thing as a DK. Buff Coagulating Blood with healing passives, lots of max health and Igneous Shield instead.

I'd use blocking cost reduction enchants + CP and probably heavy armor too. The question then is, do you have enough in healing initiated/received (using coagulating blood) and incoming damage reduction + magicka regen to be able to sustain the times between you're able to activate your ultimates. For ultimate, I'd use magma armor + dragon leap/invisibats, though whether you want to be a vampire on a tank is not that easy to decide. You could also use the potentates set for cheaper ultimates. Akaviri set is starting to be too low level for current meta.

Anyway, useful skills:
Reflective Scale, Igneous Shield, Defensive Stance, Coagulating Blood, Efficient Purge, Choking talons (though you may not be able to fit this on your bars, or be able to have time to use it when being attacked), Hardened Armor, Shuffle. Harness Magicka will probably be too weak because you'd want to have a lot of health and quite a bit of stamina to benefit from the stamina return from Igneous Shield. You could also use Draw Breath for the aoe interrupt and a tiny bit of healing. Immovable if using 5 heavy armor pieces for the break free passive. Not to be used actively because it will eat your stamina, which is needed for blocking.

No matter what the set, I'd go for tri-stat enchantments on all armor pieces on a magicka DK. Thing just is, it's really really expensive...

Draxys

I do not recommend magicka DK in pvp unless you just want to be annoying to kill and CC things for your teammates. You won't be able to kill anything by yourself even in a high offense build as a magicka DK.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Draxys wrote: »

I do not recommend magicka DK in pvp unless you just want to be annoying to kill and CC things for your teammates. You won't be able to kill anything by yourself even in a high offense build as a magicka DK.

^^this. You can try for a tank, but the problem is most good players will ignore you until everyone else is dead, then kill you because you can't damage them enough. Ethaniel is one of the better magicka DKs out there right now. Check out his build for ideas: https://youtu.be/hsJ0mr9QHSg