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Are too tier crafting writs worth it?

Rioht
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On ps4 is seems like I come out at a loss when doing crafting writs.

I.e., a top tier clothing writ I just did costs me the following materials to craft:

~45 void cloth (300g worth maybe?)
15 ancestor silk 4.5k (300g per)

And as a reward I get

1 green rubedo (300g for the leather scrap)
1 green recipe (maybe 200g)
600 gold
1 mercenary motif (1500-2k)

So even when I get lucky and get a mercenary motif, I come out with a net loss of 1700 gold (4800-3100 IF I get a motif.

Now of course you can get purple recipes and sell for, maybe 20k? Yet I haven't got a purple recipe worth selling from 30+ writs.

Explain why I should want to do crafting writs rather than just sell the materials or drop to tier 9 writs?
  • Vildebill
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    I don't know the percentage to get a survey, but when you get a survey in Orsinium you get loads of raw materials. One in four or five should still be plus i guess, do you get a survey that often?
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  • Erdmanski
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    First of all, your post is all messed up.

    All clothing (whether light or medium) writs cost around 25 VR14 materials and 15 VR16 materials. The only ones that require more VR14 materials are the blacksmithing ones.

    Unless something crazy is going on, you can not get a mercenary motif from crafting writs, you may be referencing glass motif fragments.

    The recipes you mention are from provisioning writs and those cost virtually nothing to do, so that is all profit.

    You also failed to mention getting surveys back. Depending on your luck, these typically yield 50-100 raw materials, which can be refined and also produce dreugh wax in the process.

    I can assure you that doing your writs daily will make you gold in the process, not the other way around.
    Edited by Erdmanski on January 15, 2016 2:07PM
  • FortheloveofKrist
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    Here's the trick. Don't put the tenth skill point into the craft (BS, WW, or cloth). You will only use void for writs (which is everywhere, especially if you farm some nirn), and your rewards will be surveys in Crag, which OFTEN give nirn stones, along with gold tempers. Then switch when you want to stop doing writs and actually farm rubedite.



  • reften
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    Erdmanski wrote: »
    First of all, your post is all messed up.

    All clothing (whether light or medium) writs cost around 25 VR14 materials and 15 VR16 materials. The only ones that require more VR14 materials are the blacksmithing ones.

    Unless something crazy is going on, you can not get a mercenary motif from crafting writs, you may be referencing glass motif fragments.

    The recipes you mention are from provisioning writs and those cost virtually nothing to do, so that is all profit.

    You also failed to mention getting surveys back. Depending on your luck, these typically yield 50-100 raw materials, which can be refined and also produce dreugh wax in the process.

    I can assure you that doing your writs daily will make you gold in the process, not the other way around.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

    Alchemy, enchanting, and provisioning writs are for sure worth it....even just for the 600 gold you get. The mats needed are common/easy to get and often times replaced either from the hireling, surveys, or writs containers.

    For me, clothing writs asking for light items are worth it since I'm all medium

    Clothing writs asking for medium I just delete, not worth it.

    Woodworking writs, mats are very plentiful, so no reason to not do them. 600+ gold is nice

    Blacksmithing writs....I usually pass. I use DW and 2H...trying to save my mats for new weapons.
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • Erdmanski
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    reften wrote: »
    Erdmanski wrote: »
    First of all, your post is all messed up.

    All clothing (whether light or medium) writs cost around 25 VR14 materials and 15 VR16 materials. The only ones that require more VR14 materials are the blacksmithing ones.

    Unless something crazy is going on, you can not get a mercenary motif from crafting writs, you may be referencing glass motif fragments.

    The recipes you mention are from provisioning writs and those cost virtually nothing to do, so that is all profit.

    You also failed to mention getting surveys back. Depending on your luck, these typically yield 50-100 raw materials, which can be refined and also produce dreugh wax in the process.

    I can assure you that doing your writs daily will make you gold in the process, not the other way around.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

    Alchemy, enchanting, and provisioning writs are for sure worth it....even just for the 600 gold you get. The mats needed are common/easy to get and often times replaced either from the hireling, surveys, or writs containers.

    For me, clothing writs asking for light items are worth it since I'm all medium

    Clothing writs asking for medium I just delete, not worth it.

    Woodworking writs, mats are very plentiful, so no reason to not do them. 600+ gold is nice

    Blacksmithing writs....I usually pass. I use DW and 2H...trying to save my mats for new weapons.

    I don't understand your "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument!" when the facts are that you will make gold from doing your writs every day. There is no argument here, just seems like more uninformed people on this forum looking for something to complain about.
  • Ourorboros
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    Are we playing the same game? Mercenary motifs only come from Undaunted chests. Writs have a chance to drop glass or psijiic fragments. Do you get gold tempers or purple foods? Do you have a good supply of v15 mats? I don't do the too (sic :D ) tier writs everyday, but do them sometimes. I frequently get the above mentioned rewards even if I don't get a survey. The overall cost/reward in terms of v15 mats is a wash.....neither gain or lose much in long term. But the other rewards are worth it since I have plenty of gold and v15 mats. I also already have all glass motifs and XP recipe, so any of those I get are gravy.
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  • reften
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    Erdmanski wrote: »
    reften wrote: »
    Erdmanski wrote: »
    First of all, your post is all messed up.

    All clothing (whether light or medium) writs cost around 25 VR14 materials and 15 VR16 materials. The only ones that require more VR14 materials are the blacksmithing ones.

    Unless something crazy is going on, you can not get a mercenary motif from crafting writs, you may be referencing glass motif fragments.

    The recipes you mention are from provisioning writs and those cost virtually nothing to do, so that is all profit.

    You also failed to mention getting surveys back. Depending on your luck, these typically yield 50-100 raw materials, which can be refined and also produce dreugh wax in the process.

    I can assure you that doing your writs daily will make you gold in the process, not the other way around.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

    Alchemy, enchanting, and provisioning writs are for sure worth it....even just for the 600 gold you get. The mats needed are common/easy to get and often times replaced either from the hireling, surveys, or writs containers.

    For me, clothing writs asking for light items are worth it since I'm all medium

    Clothing writs asking for medium I just delete, not worth it.

    Woodworking writs, mats are very plentiful, so no reason to not do them. 600+ gold is nice

    Blacksmithing writs....I usually pass. I use DW and 2H...trying to save my mats for new weapons.

    I don't understand your "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument!" when the facts are that you will make gold from doing your writs every day. There is no argument here, just seems like more uninformed people on this forum looking for something to complain about.

    it was a joke...
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • Rioht
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    Oops, I Apologize, meant the glass motifs not the mercenary :), got those from my gold keys.

    How often are the survey mats v16 though, if it costs me 4.5k worth of crafting mats for the v16 piece alone I would need a decent amount of raw v16 mats to make it worth it
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    Yeah its worth it. It's a slight loss overall with mats once you figure in survey drop chances. But they are fast and easy to do. You can often break even or be ahead on mats if you pick up stuff going from one survey to the next.

    1 tier down is very nice. The surveys have an increased chance to drop nirn. But it is way more work and mats (about 100).

    I used to have to farm every day for enough to do my writs and now I very rarely do.

    Gold tempers seem to drop the same for each tier. But I have not paid too much attention to it.
  • undefeatdgaul
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    Here's the trick. Don't put the tenth skill point into the craft (BS, WW, or cloth). You will only use void for writs (which is everywhere, especially if you farm some nirn), and your rewards will be surveys in Crag, which OFTEN give nirn stones, along with gold tempers. Then switch when you want to stop doing writs and actually farm rubedite.



    then you wont be able to craft the 160CP gear sets though right? Isnt that the point of leveling up crafting skills, to be able to craft the best stuff?

    I agree 100% with you on the writs its MUCH easier and more rewarding that way I just dont know how you do both. Maybe make the gear you want then respec your points and only put 9 in until you need to make more/different gear?
  • idk
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    Here's the trick. Don't put the tenth skill point into the craft (BS, WW, or cloth). You will only use void for writs (which is everywhere, especially if you farm some nirn), and your rewards will be surveys in Crag, which OFTEN give nirn stones, along with gold tempers. Then switch when you want to stop doing writs and actually farm rubedite.



    then you wont be able to craft the 160CP gear sets though right? Isnt that the point of leveling up crafting skills, to be able to craft the best stuff?

    I agree 100% with you on the writs its MUCH easier and more rewarding that way I just dont know how you do both. Maybe make the gear you want then respec your points and only put 9 in until you need to make more/different gear?

    Your replying to an old thread that is no longer relevant as the top level write onky require CP150 crafting. No linger need sub CP140 matts.
  • undefeatdgaul
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    Here's the trick. Don't put the tenth skill point into the craft (BS, WW, or cloth). You will only use void for writs (which is everywhere, especially if you farm some nirn), and your rewards will be surveys in Crag, which OFTEN give nirn stones, along with gold tempers. Then switch when you want to stop doing writs and actually farm rubedite.



    then you wont be able to craft the 160CP gear sets though right? Isnt that the point of leveling up crafting skills, to be able to craft the best stuff?

    I agree 100% with you on the writs its MUCH easier and more rewarding that way I just dont know how you do both. Maybe make the gear you want then respec your points and only put 9 in until you need to make more/different gear?

    Your replying to an old thread that is no longer relevant as the top level write onky require CP150 crafting. No linger need sub CP140 matts.

    yeh just noticed and found that out my bad
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