Gap closers

BigTone

Need to be nerfed. There, I said it, bring your salt.

There is no reason ambush and crit rush should hit for 10k under any circumstance. There is no reason that either of these should impose that infamous mini stun that locks a player down.

The purpose of the move should be to close the gap between you and your opponent, not take away half of their health and lock them in place for a second.The gap close spam has been out of control lately and something has to be done. Reducing all damage from ambush and crit rush by 33% is a place to start. Increase the cost of spamming a gap closer within four seconds by 50% and watch the ambush spammers go away.

This would also give Templars and DKs a better chance to escape as well.

BuggeX

gap closer shouldnt deal dmg in first place, it should be a Utility to closer the gap and some other minor/Major buffs.

this would also give more diversity in builds since different gap closer have different Major buffs and would replace some other buffs, wich just get sloted for one single buff

altemriel

why do you want to nerf it? I suppose that every class has a gap closer skill. some skills hit harder, some less hard, what is the deal about it?

I dont get this nerf this nerf that hype. some people complain about wrecking blow spam (it is one of the strongest skill of DKs, so what the heck??).

gap closers, so what? they still can be blocked or dodge rolled, so what? learn to play!

nerf snare, nerf, sorc shields, nerf wrecking blow, nerf gap closers...all these posts are just ridiculous...

learn to play!!

Lord_Hev

I like that. It seems fair that if escape is going to be punished for executive use, then gap closing should follow that same rule.

Tower_Of_Shame

altemriel wrote: »

why do you want to nerf it? I suppose that every class has a gap closer skill. some skills hit harder, some less hard, what is the deal about it?

I dont get this nerf this nerf that hype. some people complain about wrecking blow spam (it is one of the strongest skill of DKs, so what the heck??).

gap closers, so what? they still can be blocked or dodge rolled, so what? learn to play!

nerf snare, nerf, sorc shields, nerf wrecking blow, nerf gap closers...all these posts are just ridiculous...

learn to play!!

And he plays a dk xD I never got the memo that they moved WB under dk skill line thy for the heads up

MountainHound

I am abit fed up to see my death recap consist of (in no particular order):

Crit rush
ambush
crit rush
lotus fan
stampede

I think like dodge roll the cost of spamming it within 4 seconds of each other should show an increase of 50% cost (any gap closers) or something to stop the spam. I admit I am guilty of it to some extent when I see a sorc bolt away... I HAVE to crit rush to catch up.

Psilent

BigTone wrote: »

Need to be nerfed. There, I said it, bring your salt.

There is no reason ambush and crit rush should hit for 10k under any circumstance. There is no reason that either of these should impose that infamous mini stun that locks a player down.

The purpose of the move should be to close the gap between you and your opponent, not take away half of their health and lock them in place for a second.The gap close spam has been out of control lately and something has to be done. Reducing all damage from ambush and crit rush by 33% is a place to start. Increase the cost of spamming a gap closer within four seconds by 50% and watch the ambush spammers go away.

This would also give Templars and DKs a better chance to escape as well.

I haven't played my Sorcerer in PvP for a couple months, so haven't experienced Invasion/Crit Rush spam in awhile, but Ambush Spam, all the time. I feel that's just because it has no minimum range, which needs to changed.

About the damage, I have to ask; how much impenetrable gear are you wearing and how many points into Resistant star in the Champion system? I wear 4 impenetrable, soon to be 5, with 47 points into resistant. Crit Rush doesn't hit me anywhere near 10k.

Leovolao

altemriel wrote: »

why do you want to nerf it? I suppose that every class has a gap closer skill. some skills hit harder, some less hard, what is the deal about it?

I dont get this nerf this nerf that hype. some people complain about wrecking blow spam (it is one of the strongest skill of DKs, so what the heck??).

gap closers, so what? they still can be blocked or dodge rolled, so what? learn to play!

nerf snare, nerf, sorc shields, nerf wrecking blow, nerf gap closers...all these posts are just ridiculous...

learn to play!!

They most certaintly can't be blocked or dodge rolled half the time because I get mini stunned and locked in place. The value of a gap closer should be in the fact that it places you in range of people, not it's damage.

And by "any class has gap closers". Mine (if you consider streak a gap closer, which I do) has a stacking cost, hits like a wet noodle and gives free cc immunity. Sounds terrible and yet I strongly believe that's how every gap closer should work.

donJay

BigTone wrote: »

Need to be nerfed. There, I said it, bring your salt.

There is no reason ambush and crit rush should hit for 10k under any circumstance. There is no reason that either of these should impose that infamous mini stun that locks a player down.

The purpose of the move should be to close the gap between you and your opponent, not take away half of their health and lock them in place for a second.The gap close spam has been out of control lately and something has to be done. Reducing all damage from ambush and crit rush by 33% is a place to start. Increase the cost of spamming a gap closer within four seconds by 50% and watch the ambush spammers go away.

This would also give Templars and DKs a better chance to escape as well.

I agree if sorc shields can be critable in response

BigTone

donJay wrote: »

BigTone wrote: »

Need to be nerfed. There, I said it, bring your salt.

There is no reason ambush and crit rush should hit for 10k under any circumstance. There is no reason that either of these should impose that infamous mini stun that locks a player down.

The purpose of the move should be to close the gap between you and your opponent, not take away half of their health and lock them in place for a second.The gap close spam has been out of control lately and something has to be done. Reducing all damage from ambush and crit rush by 33% is a place to start. Increase the cost of spamming a gap closer within four seconds by 50% and watch the ambush spammers go away.

This would also give Templars and DKs a better chance to escape as well.

I agree if sorc shields can be critable in response

I have to ask, what does this have to do with sorc shields? Should sorc shields be critable but other shields like harness or barrier not be critable?

Also, I have no problems with shields being critable as long as the shields themselves can crit.

KenaPKK

They should deal less damage and shouldn't apply that mini stun thing, I agree.

reften

MountainHound wrote: »

I am abit fed up to see my death recap consist of (in no particular order):

Crit rush
ambush
crit rush
lotus fan
stampede

I think like dodge roll the cost of spamming it within 4 seconds of each other should show an increase of 50% cost (any gap closers) or something to stop the spam. I admit I am guilty of it to some extent when I see a sorc bolt away... I HAVE to crit rush to catch up.

If you're running away from a melee based enemy, what do you expect them to do?

I will say, ANY ability in game should work similar to dodge roll and have a cool down. You can keep casting it over and over, but it's going to cost more and more.