What the heck am I leveling to fast

majulook

Doing Cadwell's Silver and I am half way through the Glenumbra zone. I am already VR5 is this normal or at least common?

My last character I do not think leveled this quickly.

Lightninvash

they did increase the xp gain of quests so could be due to that.

UrQuan

They increased the XP gain of quests and reduced the amount of XP required to get each vet rank. Check my sig to see what level all of my characters are: only 2 of those characters have progressed past the first full zone of Silver.

majulook

UrQuan wrote: »

They increased the XP gain of quests and reduced the amount of XP required to get each vet rank. Check my sig to see what level all of my characters are: only 2 of those characters have progressed past the first full zone of Silver.

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

wayfarerx

majulook wrote: »

So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

Well, the gear drops in silver/gold were never good for much else anyway.

Divinius

My latest character just hit Vet 13 in my first Gold zone. Leveling is super easy now.

Lightninvash

majulook wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

They increased the XP gain of quests and reduced the amount of XP required to get each vet rank. Check my sig to see what level all of my characters are: only 2 of those characters have progressed past the first full zone of Silver.

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

selling decon and trait research that's all quest gear is good for

UrQuan

majulook wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

They increased the XP gain of quests and reduced the amount of XP required to get each vet rank. Check my sig to see what level all of my characters are: only 2 of those characters have progressed past the first full zone of Silver.

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

They did it because so many people were complaining about how much of a grind it was to get to max level. Personally I never found it a grind, but that's probably because I never really focused on leveling - I just focused on going around and having fun playing the game in each zone.

ShadowDisciple

absolutelly not normal.

UrQuan

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

absolutelly not normal.

My multiple VR5s and VR4s disagree. Heck, my VR2 has barely started her Cadwell's Silver starter zone.

Edit: actually that's not entirely fair, as one of my VR5s hasn't even started doing Cadwell's Silver, and instead ended up leveling from VR1 to VR5 doing Orsinium.

snoogadooch

The people that post about it seems to be the ones at each end of the spectrum . There are a lot of both. I was always way over leveled for the area I was in. Even before the decrease in XP.

vamp_emily

wayfarerx wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

Well, the gear drops in silver/gold were never good for much else anyway.

I don't know how good this set is but in Silver i received several items from the "Warlock" set. It sells very well on a guild store I belong to.

wayfarerx

vamp_emily wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

Well, the gear drops in silver/gold were never good for much else anyway.

I don't know how good this set is but in Silver i received several items from the "Warlock" set. It sells very well on a guild store I belong to.

You will, occasionally, come across a good set drop (warlock being one of them). I don't think the rate of vet leveling or VR removal will change this much.

Taleof2Cities

majulook wrote: »

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

It's not ZOS's fault that players might outlevel (or be underleveled in) the content. Players are going to play at their own pace ... a player here might be grinding quests only while a player there is only exploring without quests.

In contrast to your character, my level 32 Stamplar was doing quests and content in Coldharbour recently. I can't use the gear because it isn't even unlocked yet. But, I'm not putting that on ZOS ... since it was my choice to head there.

TheShadowScout

My characters do just the basic questing, and generally hit V7 at the end of silver, and V14 by the end of gold. Then wrothgar for V16... easy as pie. If I did more, like public dugneons dolmen, world bosses, pledges and such... I'd likely tack on some ranks as well and go V16 while still in cadwells I'd expect...

UrQuan

TheShadowScout wrote: »

My characters do just the basic questing, and generally hit V7 at the end of silver, and V14 by the end of gold. Then wrothgar for V16... easy as pie. If I did more, like public dugneons dolmen, world bosses, pledges and such... I'd likely tack on some ranks as well and go V16 while still in cadwells I'd expect...

Both of my VR16s hit VR16 before completing Cadwell's Gold, and before doing much of anything in Craglorn or Wrothgar. I do everything in every zone, though: all of the side quests, all of the dolmens, all of the world bosses, etc. So yes, you're right, it's easy to hit VR16 these days before you've even completed Cadwell's Gold if you do everything in the zones.

majulook

Let me clarify when I said the drops were no good. I meant everything chests, quest rewards, drops form fights, its all level VR1. I could use it but its 4 levels below my character, this makes no sense.

I Got to Shadowfen and all the baddies are VR2.

I thought the levells the zones changed, depending on were you are in the zone.

UrQuan

majulook wrote: »

Let me clarify when I said the drops were no good. I meant everything chests, quest rewards, drops form fights, its all level VR1. I could use it but its 4 levels below my character, this makes no sense.

I Got to Shadowfen and all the baddies are VR2.

I thought the levells the zones changed, depending on were you are in the zone.

Not in the veteran rank zones. Each zone scaled to VR1+ will be scaled to one level for the entire zone. For your Cadwell's Silver zones the starter island(s) and first full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR1, the second full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR2, the third full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR3, etc. Each alliance has 5 full zones, so if you progress through all of the zones in the game in order, your Silver and Gold zones will take you up to VR10. Then, theoretically, you're supposed to go to Craglorn, then Upper Craglorn, etc.

majulook

UrQuan wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Let me clarify when I said the drops were no good. I meant everything chests, quest rewards, drops form fights, its all level VR1. I could use it but its 4 levels below my character, this makes no sense.

I Got to Shadowfen and all the baddies are VR2.

I thought the levells the zones changed, depending on were you are in the zone.

Not in the veteran rank zones. Each zone scaled to VR1+ will be scaled to one level for the entire zone. For your Cadwell's Silver zones the starter island(s) and first full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR1, the second full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR2, the third full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR3, etc. Each alliance has 5 full zones, so if you progress through all of the zones in the game in order, your Silver and Gold zones will take you up to VR10. Then, theoretically, you're supposed to go to Craglorn, then Upper Craglorn, etc.

Well as I said before that's just silly as one progresses they will get higher in level and the baddies just go up once for each zone. Eventually one will be several levels higher than the baddies. This also appears to ensure that materials in the zone like Wood, Cloth, and Ore are lower than what my character uses.

I am now VR6 in Shadowfen if my progression continues as it has I will be VR8 or higher when I get to Eastmarch where the baddies will be VR3. this progression will put me more than 5 levels above zone, I guess then it will slow down or did they change the amount of XP you get if you are more than 5 levels higher.

Question: Will I still get drops from Dolmens (Anchors) or does that stop once I am more than 5 levels above the area?

Muizer

majulook wrote: »

Doing Cadwell's Silver and I am half way through the Glenumbra zone. I am already VR5 is this normal or at least common?

My last character I do not think leveled this quickly.

Something 's out of whack for sure. I used to just get to V12 after Gold. Now I'm V11 with 4 zones and the guild quest lines to go. Not subscribed. Seeing plenty other players of the same level around. No incident.

danno8

In the old days, we didn't have all those fancy CP's! And we only got 4 gold per drop!

It use to be 1,000,000 xp per level and mob packs took 30 seconds to kill and could actually kill you or even one-shot you if you weren't careful!!

And after all that you would come out of Cadwell's Gold barely past VR 10 and had to grind 2 more levels just because!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbU4Cb4A4-o

AngryNord

It's normal. People didn't want to actually play the game, so leveling was made way too fast for content

Preyfar

majulook wrote: »

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

This is a problem in general. One of my friends went through Daggerfall, then immediately went to Wrothgar (as the quest NPC kept bugging him to do so). Upon getting back, he goes to Stormhaven... and is 3 levels above the zone, so he stopped gaining XP and loot entirely. At that point, he was like "Why play? I don't get any benefit or loot from questing..."

He didn't want to skip it, but also didn't want to lose all rewards, too. It was kind of a morale killer for him. The only way I really see this being fixed is for ZOS to implement scaling across the board.

baratron

My DC Templar has just started Reaper's March (final zone in Cadwell's Silver). He's v15. And has never been to Craglorn or Wrothgar, and has gone to the Imperial City only once to open a few chests.

Apparently if you run the Pledges every day and do every quest in a zone, you level insanely fast.

The only reason I'm actually bothering to finish Cadwell's Silver is to get access to the Skyshards in the Gold regions. There is no point whatsoever in my dragging him through the quests in EP lands.

Draxys

Consider yourself lucky, it used to be painful =/

UrQuan

majulook wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Let me clarify when I said the drops were no good. I meant everything chests, quest rewards, drops form fights, its all level VR1. I could use it but its 4 levels below my character, this makes no sense.

I Got to Shadowfen and all the baddies are VR2.

I thought the levells the zones changed, depending on were you are in the zone.

Not in the veteran rank zones. Each zone scaled to VR1+ will be scaled to one level for the entire zone. For your Cadwell's Silver zones the starter island(s) and first full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR1, the second full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR2, the third full zone will have all enemies scaled to VR3, etc. Each alliance has 5 full zones, so if you progress through all of the zones in the game in order, your Silver and Gold zones will take you up to VR10. Then, theoretically, you're supposed to go to Craglorn, then Upper Craglorn, etc.

Well as I said before that's just silly as one progresses they will get higher in level and the baddies just go up once for each zone. Eventually one will be several levels higher than the baddies. This also appears to ensure that materials in the zone like Wood, Cloth, and Ore are lower than what my character uses.

I am now VR6 in Shadowfen if my progression continues as it has I will be VR8 or higher when I get to Eastmarch where the baddies will be VR3. this progression will put me more than 5 levels above zone, I guess then it will slow down or did they change the amount of XP you get if you are more than 5 levels higher.

Question: Will I still get drops from Dolmens (Anchors) or does that stop once I am more than 5 levels above the area?

If you're below VR1 then you don't gain loot or XP from anything that's more than 5 levels below you. If you're VR1+ then you'll always gain loot and XP from anything level 46 or higher, although once you're more than 5 vet ranks above the enemies the amount of XP is drastically reduced. So if you're VR16 you could go back to Coldharbour and fight a whole bunch of level 46 enemies and still get loot from them, and a very small amount of XP (I don't remember exactly how much, but I think it goes down to as low as about 100 XP per standard mob).

Preyfar wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

That explains it, and it was very silly of them to do...
So now I get drops of gear that is way below my Character (Glenumbra drops are allVR1 so far), and pretty much only good for deconstructing or selling.

This is a problem in general. One of my friends went through Daggerfall, then immediately went to Wrothgar (as the quest NPC kept bugging him to do so). Upon getting back, he goes to Stormhaven... and is 3 levels above the zone, so he stopped gaining XP and loot entirely. At that point, he was like "Why play? I don't get any benefit or loot from questing..."

He didn't want to skip it, but also didn't want to lose all rewards, too. It was kind of a morale killer for him. The only way I really see this being fixed is for ZOS to implement scaling across the board.

If he's only 3 levels above the enemies he should still be getting loot and XP from them. Even if he's over 5 levels above them (the point where you stop gaining loot and XP from enemies) he should still get XP and loot as rewards for the quests.

sirrmattus

i still want our grind spots back

vyndral13preub18_ESO

AngryNord wrote: »

It's normal. People didn't want to actually play the game, so leveling was made way too fast for content

And on the flip side They didnt actually want to fix something completely. So they just came up with a half assed solution, just adjusting xp. And not any of the mobs or quest rewards even though people would be over leveled for them.

I dont know maybe they made themselves feel better about not doing all the work needed bu telling themselves a year or two from now when vetran levels come out or scaling goes in it wont be a problem.