Sell Nirnhoned Crafting Mats and Laurels in the Crown Store

Palidon

I for one am sick and tired of doing the Undaunted quests in hopes of getting Laurels to craft Mercenary Armor and weapons. I am also sick and tired of running around upper and lower Craglorn in hopes of finding Nirnhold Crafting mats. How about giving players the option to buy them via the Crown Store.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Bad idea.
One could argue about laurels, as they are just cosmetic and not to hard to get, but putting a crafting item that is required for the best items and has a low drop rate ingame into the crown store is a big step towards pay to win.

Palidon

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Bad idea.
One could argue about laurels, as they are just cosmetic and not to hard to get, but putting a crafting item that is required for the best items and has a low drop rate ingame into the crown store is a big step towards pay to win.

I don't see where it would be a step towards pay to win. We are talking about crafting mats and an option to get them via the crown store instead of constant grinding in the Undaunted Pledges or farming in Craglorn. Lets face it how many times do you want to do the pledges. I have leveled 5 characters all to V16 and have lost count on how many times I have done the Undaunted Pledges. At some point it just gets old.

Niaver

No.

WeerW3ir

Palidon wrote: »

I for one am sick and tired of doing the Undaunted quests in hopes of getting Laurels to craft Mercenary Armor and weapons. I am also sick and tired of running around upper and lower Craglorn in hopes of finding Nirnhold Crafting mats. How about giving players the option to buy them via the Crown Store.

fuh because so hard to collect all mercenary part. They cost nothing now. and if you have all then 100% chanxe to get laurel

DannyLV702

Nirnhoned items on crown store is definitely p2w. It took a while for me to get my nirnhoned stuff because I wanted to craft it myself. Much more rewarding.

Palidon

The ones saying bad idea most likely have Nirnhoned armor and weapons pieces for sale in the different guild stores for 23 to 25K a pop for research to include the mats which are selling for several thousand gold a piece. Putting Nirnhoned mats in the Crown Store will cut their profits just like the Glass Motif cut the profits from selling the individual pages in the Guild Stores. There should be an option is all I am saying and it would not be pay to win.

Palidon

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Nirnhoned items on crown store is definitely p2w. It took a while for me to get my nirnhoned stuff because I wanted to craft it myself. Much more rewarding.

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Nirnhoned items on crown store is definitely p2w. It took a while for me to get my nirnhoned stuff because I wanted to craft it myself. Much more rewarding.

You would still be crafting the items yourself just getting the mats a different way.

Elong

Palidon wrote: »

The ones saying bad idea most likely have Nirnhoned armor and weapons pieces for sale in the different guild stores for 23 to 25K a pop for research to include the mats which are selling for several thousand gold a piece. Putting Nirnhoned mats in the Crown Store will cut their profits just like the Glass Motif cut the profits from selling the individual pages in the Guild Stores. There should be an option is all I am saying and it would not be pay to win.

You have just explained yourself exactly how it's pay to win.

Abeille

I will try to make this as simple as I can.

Selling Nirncrux is selling power.

Selling a Motif is selling looks.

Therefore, selling a Motif is okay, as it is something purely cosmetic. Selling Nirncrux is not okay, as it actually has an influence on the power of the character, therefore giving the buyer an edge over a non-buyer. The nirnhoned trait is very useful on staves, for example. That's why it is a "Pay to Win" suggestion.

Nothing against selling laurels, though, as they only change the looks of an equipment and not the power of it.

Volkodav

No crafting mats in the store! They are ingame for a reason.To find,gather,and craft what you need.Next it will be buy all hard to find mats.

Volkodav

Palidon wrote: »

The ones saying bad idea most likely have Nirnhoned armor and weapons pieces for sale in the different guild stores for 23 to 25K a pop for research to include the mats which are selling for several thousand gold a piece. Putting Nirnhoned mats in the Crown Store will cut their profits just like the Glass Motif cut the profits from selling the individual pages in the Guild Stores. There should be an option is all I am saying and it would not be pay to win.

I for one dont have those bits of armor. If you want the mats,just use a guild store.If you dont belong to a guild,there are tons of guild traders about in the game to buy from.Just NOT the store.
Putting things in the store that would aid players in making great armor would be P2W,whether you see it that way or not.

Bloody-Goodbyes

Unbind laurel and maybe add nirn stones to crafting writs, nobody goes to Craglorn with the new DLCs out and after the nirnhoned nerf.

Moonclaw

Or add items with this characteristic to other areas - e.g orsinium.... Just a thought

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Bloody-Goodbyes wrote: »

Unbind laurel and maybe add nirn stones to crafting writs, nobody goes to Craglorn with the new DLCs out and after the nirnhoned nerf.

Crafting items like laurel should always be tradable. It helps the player economy. What will happen is when laurels end up on the crown store, I'll buy them and the merc motif from there. But if players could sell them, I'd buy them all from guild stores and guild traders.

Jayne_Doe

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

Bloody-Goodbyes wrote: »

Unbind laurel and maybe add nirn stones to crafting writs, nobody goes to Craglorn with the new DLCs out and after the nirnhoned nerf.

Crafting items like laurel should always be tradable. It helps the player economy. What will happen is when laurels end up on the crown store, I'll buy them and the merc motif from there. But if players could sell them, I'd buy them all from guild stores and guild traders.

I'd also rather purchase Laurels from guild traders than from the Crown Store. I've actually purchased all the Merc pages since they're so cheap now, even though I don't do any Undaunted pledges - I'm just not interested, that's my choice. So, if Laurels end up in the Crown Store (Malachite, is already there, which is a bound item), I'll purchase them. But, if players were able to sell them, I'd rather contribute to the in-game economy, which is why I purchased the pages in game rather than waiting for the motif to show up in the Crown Store.

As others, have mentioned, Nirn affects the power of a character and thus should never be for sale in the CS. I would agree with suggestions to make them available in other zones or in writs. Yes, they're already available in writs via the surveys, but only if you're still doing Crag writs. Have them either be a random drop in the writ rewards or a random drop in the Wrothgar surveys.