Will there ever be the option to change alliances?

Shardaxx

We've got some guild mates who started characters in a different alliance to the rest of us as they didn't realise which alliance we were in, unfortunately this means we can't group with them and the only time we can see them is as enemies in pvp, although weirdly it does allow you to add them to guild but not groups. Will there ever be an option to change alliances? I understand this could be abused for pvp so either it would have to be a one-time only change (or significant time restrictions on changing) and/or a cost associated with it. Thanks!

Magdalina

I don't think they have any plans for that for the timebeing, however, you CAN in fact group with someone from other alliance using a groupfinder;) Maybe that'll help you some. For some magic reason we can't simply do it by name but only through gfinder, so in order to pick up your friend from other alliance, choose same dungeon and start the search at the same time. It also seems to work much better if you're looking for a tank and your other alliance buddy sets his role as one(since there're less tanks overall). It doesn't mean he/she actually has to tank, just need to change your role in the group tab and voila! - cross alliance group done within seconds(if you're lucky)
You of course won't be able to PvP together(and I don't think it works for Trials/DSA either) but still, better than nothing.

DannyLV702

There is. Before you log in, go to "create new character". You traitor!!

DannyLV702

Kidding. I don't think that will ever be an option. It's just asking for too many problems.

Artjuh90

the problem of this is when you are in the single player area's lvl 3-50 and the cadwell story lines. because what will happen with them when you change alliance. just to big of a hassle i think

NewBlacksmurf

I hope the PvE is changed after VR is removed.
PvP are campaigns so other than population issues....this would seem doable

TheShadowScout

It could happen... though it would probably be more effort then they might wish to go into.

It would have to become available only after completing cadwells to avoid troubles with quest progression...

And if it was ever done, it ought to be done properly.
Meaning, not just "buy token, poof over to new alliance", but with an grand questline taking you all over your "homelands", of an "loyalty called in question" flavor, whereas you get a choice to either stay and prove your loyalty, find out who framed you and so on, or defect to another alliance, with the rest of the questline being quite different depending on what choice is made.

Who knows? mAybe someday they will add this, it might make a logical next step after Meridia arranging for you to experience the other alliances throuzgh cadwells silver/gold... but as mentioned, doing it right would be quite a bit of effort, and I fear most of their efforts in the future will go to things that bring them extra income, DLC-wise.

But who knows? It might happen...

Artjuh90

TheShadowScout wrote: »

It could happen... though it would probably be more effort then they might wish to go into.

It would have to become available only after completing cadwells to avoid troubles with quest progression...

And if it was ever done, it ought to be done properly.
Meaning, not just "buy token, poof over to new alliance", but with an grand questline taking you all over your "homelands", of an "loyalty called in question" flavor, whereas you get a choice to either stay and prove your loyalty, find out who framed you and so on, or defect to another alliance, with the rest of the questline being quite different depending on what choice is made.

Who knows? mAybe someday they will add this, it might make a logical next step after Meridia arranging for you to experience the other alliances throuzgh cadwells silver/gold... but as mentioned, doing it right would be quite a bit of effort, and I fear most of their efforts in the future will go to things that bring them extra income, DLC-wise.

But who knows? It might happen...

but then again the PvPers who don't like PvE have to complete cadwell's for it. you know the cries about that will come

NewBlacksmurf

TheShadowScout wrote: »

It could happen... though it would probably be more effort then they might wish to go into.

It would have to become available only after completing cadwells to avoid troubles with quest progression...

And if it was ever done, it ought to be done properly.
Meaning, not just "buy token, poof over to new alliance", but with an grand questline taking you all over your "homelands", of an "loyalty called in question" flavor, whereas you get a choice to either stay and prove your loyalty, find out who framed you and so on, or defect to another alliance, with the rest of the questline being quite different depending on what choice is made.

Who knows? mAybe someday they will add this, it might make a logical next step after Meridia arranging for you to experience the other alliances throuzgh cadwells silver/gold... but as mentioned, doing it right would be quite a bit of effort, and I fear most of their efforts in the future will go to things that bring them extra income, DLC-wise.

But who knows? It might happen...

This, I thought was the point of Cadwell but the PvE only stuff and forced part doesn't make sense.

I like your comment tho. If they removed the shards and skill quests from silver n gold and (I guess gave us this in some other ways in future base game changes) then I'd love to be able to swap alliances via Cadwell quests.

Or even after completing silver n gold ....the option to switch every X amount of days would be great as well
I still don't follow the silver n gold quests logic.

If I want to play other factions...I roll an alt and have instant access so why is there this weird gated content way of being phased out of the other factions but I can guild and talk to them regardless of faction. And now group via grouping tools as well

TheShadowScout

Artjuh90 wrote: »

but then again the PvPers who don't like PvE have to complete cadwell's for it. you know the cries about that will come

Oh?
Really?
Promise?
There will be cries?
...
Yessss... yesss... let the hate flow through you, PvPlayers... your anguished wails at having to PvE shall sustain me (when I get stomped into paste in Cyrodil, again)

Also, there could be checks and balances to make alliance-hopping less desirable for PvP. For example, noone -really- trusts a traitor, so it could be that the ones who switch alliances might get a "distrust" period of, say, six months in which they would earn AP in their new alliance at only half rate...
And of course, any "traitor" might give double AP if killed by members of their former faction...

Oh, and there could also be titles, depending on what choice one makes. "Pact/Covenant/Dominion Loyalist" or "Defector"...

spawn_to_kill

I Heard a rumour that you might be able to choose a faction to sign up for when you pick campaign soon just something i heard in game would be a cool option

Shardaxx

I'd be happy to defect from AD to be honest I never realised what evil SOBs we are until I did the other 2 alliance quest lines, every particularly despicable plot seems to come from AD. I'd happily switch to DC or EP just to get away from the psychos running AD.

Brrrofski

Hopefully never. People swapping to the winning team would kill the game.

Just get them to make a character on your alliance. Get it vet 1, max class lines and make purple gear each vet level. They'll still be competitive in pvp.

If it's for pve, you can get to vr16 in two weeks easilly if you have around 3 hours a day to spare

Shardaxx

One of them is about level 40 already, but they don't fancy restarting their character (I don't blame them). Just wish there was an option to change so we could all play together without the hassle of restarting.

DRXHarbinger

It won't happen. Everyone will jump to the other faction at the end of 30 day campaign and boom top rewards. Unless it resets everytime you switch. When you switch your assault and support resets (can't be rewarded for killing your own team mates now ) and a cool down of at least 31 days to prevent point ***.

Refuse2GrowUp

Shardaxx wrote: »

We've got some guild mates who started characters in a different alliance to the rest of us as they didn't realise which alliance we were in, unfortunately this means we can't group with them and the only time we can see them is as enemies in pvp, although weirdly it does allow you to add them to guild but not groups. Will there ever be an option to change alliances? I understand this could be abused for pvp so either it would have to be a one-time only change (or significant time restrictions on changing) and/or a cost associated with it. Thanks!

Actually, in a recent ESO live they said they this is in the works and coming soon. No idea how it will be implemented, but I guess it is in the works

Pistolera_ESO

Shardaxx wrote: »

I'd be happy to defect from AD to be honest I never realised what evil SOBs we are until I did the other 2 alliance quest lines, every particularly despicable plot seems to come from AD. I'd happily switch to DC or EP just to get away from the psychos running AD.

IKR! Cannot unsee the exploding babies!

Shardaxx

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Actually, in a recent ESO live they said they this is in the works and coming soon. No idea how it will be implemented, but I guess it is in the works

Great! Thanks for the info!

altemriel

Shardaxx wrote: »

We've got some guild mates who started characters in a different alliance to the rest of us as they didn't realise which alliance we were in, unfortunately this means we can't group with them and the only time we can see them is as enemies in pvp, although weirdly it does allow you to add them to guild but not groups. Will there ever be an option to change alliances? I understand this could be abused for pvp so either it would have to be a one-time only change (or significant time restrictions on changing) and/or a cost associated with it. Thanks!

I just checked this question to be answered in the latest eso live. there will be appearance change (barber shop), name change and alliance change in the future. Only thing that will not be changeable is the class. said Gina.

Shardaxx

Thanks altemriel I look forward to hearing more on this in the future, at least we know its coming.

Glaiceana

altemriel wrote: »

Shardaxx wrote: »

We've got some guild mates who started characters in a different alliance to the rest of us as they didn't realise which alliance we were in, unfortunately this means we can't group with them and the only time we can see them is as enemies in pvp, although weirdly it does allow you to add them to guild but not groups. Will there ever be an option to change alliances? I understand this could be abused for pvp so either it would have to be a one-time only change (or significant time restrictions on changing) and/or a cost associated with it. Thanks!

I just checked this question to be answered in the latest eso live. there will be appearance change (barber shop), name change and alliance change in the future. Only thing that will not be changeable is the class. said Gina.

I was certain that it was said there will NEVER be alliance change, but I guess I heard it wrong

Asmodean

While optionality is great and all. Alliance, or faction transfering always seems to create more problems than it solves, imo.

Having mass fotm faction changes every few months, and it also disrupts player community, having people jumping around to different sides all the time. Just create a new character for your desired factions maybe? lol.

But this is just what history shows from other MMOs.

NTclaymore

If we get that option DC will cease to exist. In the PvP world atleast

Dominoid

"All of this stuff is still on our development whiteboard. We're picking and choosing from the list as we go, based on what we think is going to have the best impact to the game." - Rich Lambert

Systems:

• Justice PVP/Enforcers (Quakecon 2014/Dribblings here and there)
• Spell Crafting (Quakecon 2014/ESO Live Confirmation)
• Housing (ESO Live Confirmation)
• Jewelry Crafting (Guild Summit 2014)
• Poison Making (Guild Summit 2014)
• ESO Plus “Crafting Bags” (ESO Live)
• Barbershop (ESO Live)
• Race/Sex Change (ESO Live)
• Class Change (Speculation)
• Alliance Change (Speculation)

Zones/Areas

• Abah’s Landing - TG?
• Gold Coast - DB?
• Murkmire - Still Adventure Zone?
• Clockwork City
• Mephala’s Realm

Source

Shardaxx

NTclaymore wrote: »

If we get that option DC will cease to exist. In the PvP world atleast

Why? DC has the best questlines and zones imho I wish I'd been DC from the start and will certainly consider moving to them if alliance change ever becomes a reality.

Pistolera_ESO

Shardaxx wrote: »

NTclaymore wrote: »

If we get that option DC will cease to exist. In the PvP world atleast

Why? DC has the best questlines and zones imho I wish I'd been DC from the start and will certainly consider moving to them if alliance change ever becomes a reality.

Agreed, I'm going to switch my current main AD character to DC and the first character I played through eso was DC.

TheShadowScout

NTclaymore wrote: »

If we get that option DC will cease to exist. In the PvP world atleast

People have been saying that for as long as people have been talking of alliance change options. Between people changing campaigns, and people playing alts, it would already have happened if it had any chance to happen, I reckon.

I would expect, the reality may more likely be that some people would leave, some people would come to replace them... and many would stay.
Each to their own choices.

Me, if such an option existed, I might be tempted to shift some of my characters to EP, because... Blood For The Pact! But that is -my- personal preference because of the lore, I don't give a sh... uhm... a single thought about PvP in those considerations.

GreenSoup2HoT

Pretty sure Zos said no on this one because people will just migrate and overwhelm 1 alliance. For a game that has 3 different alliance's, it's actually pretty good population wise. Of course some have more player's then other's but at least it's not completely one sided (not sure about pc though, i hear AD on there is overpopulated. On console it's even at least).

basdisco

Players want to be able to create a Dragonknight Nord named Steve in the Ebonheart Pact and then at Veteran Rank 16 change it to a Templar Nord named William in the Covenant. Just stick with your character or create a new one.

olsborg

Gina said not too long ago, everything but class change will be coming to the crown store.

DRXHarbinger

Wonder if it will carry over guild info and Tabards? iirc a Tabard made under DC for instance if you create a character in AD your tabard will be white / blank?