So this is what Axe of Belharza has become...

Fat_Cat45

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GpDtkj4NAms&feature=youtu.be

Looks like AD has bought EP players. All the while both alliances fully support an emperor who exploits.

Stay classy, Axe.

Seraph702

Dont try to flip emps when Crassius sleeps ^.^


-Unruh Dynamic GM Ghet Ghud ^.^

Rylana

All I see in this video, is EP taking a keep, and you sitting on a wall doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

What is the point of this again?

Fat_Cat45

Rylana wrote: »

All I see in this video, is EP taking a keep, and you sitting on a wall doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

What is the point of this again?

What a coincidence. I also saw AD sitting around doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

Seraph702 wrote: »

Dont try to flip emps when Crassius sleeps ^.^


-Unruh Dynamic GM Ghet Ghud ^.^

Sorry, should I exploit to flip emp instead just like Crassus does?

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Axe is such a useless server that promotes play like this, the best thing to do would be to remove it on NA since there's literally no point for its existence to anyone outside of AD wanting to farm sewers

Lord_Hev

Gets denied a PvDoor emp push? Check.
Gets rekt? Check.
Makes lame accusations as justification? Check.
Creates a salty thread in response? Check.


Sorry Fat Cat. Maybe you should stick with PvE, instead of trying to PvDoor your way to Emp.

Rylana

Fat_Cat45 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

All I see in this video, is EP taking a keep, and you sitting on a wall doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

What is the point of this again?

What a coincidence. I also saw AD sitting around doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

Seraph702 wrote: »

Dont try to flip emps when Crassius sleeps ^.^


-Unruh Dynamic GM Ghet Ghud ^.^

Sorry, should I use chains exploit to flip emp instead just like Crassus does?

in all seriousness, the chains thing has been around for over a year. if you leave keeps completely empty so you can send your entire faction to every single objective by sheer volume of numbers, you deserve to have one guy take it behind you

regarding ad standing around - says who? perhaps they were trying to rep that wall and it got tagged. youre making a lot of assumptions actually

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

Fat_Cat45 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

All I see in this video, is EP taking a keep, and you sitting on a wall doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

What is the point of this again?

What a coincidence. I also saw AD sitting around doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

Seraph702 wrote: »

Dont try to flip emps when Crassius sleeps ^.^


-Unruh Dynamic GM Ghet Ghud ^.^

Sorry, should I use chains exploit to flip emp instead just like Crassus does?

in all seriousness, the chains thing has been around for over a year. if you leave keeps completely empty so you can send your entire faction to every single objective by sheer volume of numbers, you deserve to have one guy take it behind you

regarding ad standing around - says who? perhaps they were trying to rep that wall and it got tagged. youre making a lot of assumptions actually

To be fair this video is just one instance of this though. You only have to log onto axe and wander around for 10 minutes to see EP and AD working together to not let any DC presence exist in the server

Nifty2g

I'd suggest night capping Haderus
Axe belongs to AD/EP and DC hides in their sewers for stones.

Fat_Cat45

Nifty2g wrote: »

I'd suggest night capping Haderus
Axe belongs to AD/EP and DC hides in their sewers for stones.

I've already had emp before. The real reason to play in Axe that often is the 44% extra AP for low score bonus. Gotta hoard it before next update

ShadoPanauin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QAVxKEcgk

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QAVxKEcgk

You wiped the DC group then let AD take/keep the keep?

Seraph702

We wiped the AD group a consecutive 3 times afterwards ^.^ we have no interest in Axe we just like to fight the pvdoor scrubs that come to the map when Crassius sleeps and TM is a fun guild to fight against.

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Seraph702 wrote: »

We wiped the AD group a consecutive 3 times afterwards ^.^ we have no interest in Axe we just like to fight the pvdoor scrubs that come to the map when Crassius sleeps and TM is a fun guild to fight against.

I don't understand, OP's point is that EP is helping AD control the map. Then you post a video that literally shows you doing just that

Seraph702

i think his point is that hes trying to pvdoor an emp and hes salty that no one will let him do so...

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Seraph702 wrote: »

i think his point is that hes trying to pvdoor an emp and hes salty that no one will let him do so...

Even if this was only posted out of being bitter he couldn't dethrone him his point still remains. You posted a video that proves this point even further, and on top of that how is one meant to dethrone an EMP by not pvdoor'ing anyway?

Rylana

koby-xxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Seraph702 wrote: »

i think his point is that hes trying to pvdoor an emp and hes salty that no one will let him do so...

Even if this was only posted out of being bitter he couldn't dethrone him his point still remains. You posted a video that proves this point even further, and on top of that how is one meant to dethrone an EMP by not pvdoor'ing anyway?

You... fight the emp group when they are on and win by actually outplaying them instead of avoiding a fight entirely?

I dunno, its considered bad form to show up with a full raid to take a ring when there are few to none defending.

Most people try to play the timezone card, but unfortunately they lie a lot. they just schedule their push for an offhour, no matter where they live.

Unfortunately for them, reds in that circle have a very strong aussie timezone presence. Get used to it?

Xexpo

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

koby-xxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Seraph702 wrote: »

i think his point is that hes trying to pvdoor an emp and hes salty that no one will let him do so...

Even if this was only posted out of being bitter he couldn't dethrone him his point still remains. You posted a video that proves this point even further, and on top of that how is one meant to dethrone an EMP by not pvdoor'ing anyway?

You... fight the emp group when they are on and win by actually outplaying them instead of avoiding a fight entirely?

I dunno, its considered bad form to show up with a full raid to take a ring when there are few to none defending.

Most people try to play the timezone card, but unfortunately they lie a lot. they just schedule their push for an offhour, no matter where they live.

Unfortunately for them, reds in that circle have a very strong aussie timezone presence. Get used to it?

I don't know what you're talking about, I'm in no way involved with OP or his group? I'm not arguing saying whatever his group has been doing is good or bad because frankly I have no idea what they've been doing. I'm saying the fact that EP and AD work together to keep it as an AD buff server is stupid. At this point they'd be better off removing the server then just letting AD control the entire map because it just promotes Buff IC servers and Emperor boosting

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Aren't there still EP ganker sleeper toons in Axe? The thought of AD carebears getting risk free grinding just irks me to no end. Someone has to bring them pain and tears.

AD is the faction that taught everyone how to exploit and use cheesball mechanics. They do not deserve nice things.

Mivryna

Rylana wrote: »

You... fight the emp group when they are on and win by actually outplaying them instead of avoiding a fight entirely?

I dunno, its considered bad form to show up with a full raid to take a ring when there are few to none defending.

Most people try to play the timezone card, but unfortunately they lie a lot. they just schedule their push for an offhour, no matter where they live.

Unfortunately for them, reds in that circle have a very strong aussie timezone presence. Get used to it?

Considering that he's only the emperor because he has the support of two colluding factions, I don't think Team Orange has any legitimacy in complaining about underhanded tactics. Especially given that he constantly uses the Dragon Leap exploit.

Seraph702 wrote: »

We wiped the AD group a consecutive 3 times afterwards ^.^ we have no interest in Axe we just like to fight the pvdoor scrubs that come to the map when Crassius sleeps and TM is a fun guild to fight against.

When one must rely on two-versus-one to win, I don't think one is in a position to be calling others scrubs.

Spuddlethud

Orange or purple alliances don't matter and are a natural part of the game. The undisputable fact that exploits are being used by any alliance or faction's players (especially an emp) to win over another is the core issue.

If DC (which I'm part of) can't win against a legit enemy then that's DCs fault. Population levels or not.

It's the expoliting that has to be addressed.

There is no legitimate reason to use a known exploit. None. No arguments about population, night capping, or anything else that justifies it. It's a cheat. Period.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

That said, it's 100% on ZOS, not the players, to fix it or police it. A few clear statements by ZOS followed by some high profile permabans would go a long way in preventing exploit usage until permanent fixes are put in place.

IRL there are consequences for not playing by the rules. In the current state of ESO PVP there are not. You've got a video game, that deals with war, running on the honor system. That cannot continue. Either fix the issues, or punish the abusers (aggressively).

Xexpo

Spuddlethud wrote: »

Orange or purple alliances don't matter and are a natural part of the game. The undisputable fact that exploits are being used by any alliance or faction's players (especially an emp) to win over another is the core issue.

If DC (which I'm part of) can't win against a legit enemy then that's DCs fault. Population levels or not.

It's the expoliting that has to be addressed.

There is no legitimate reason to use a known exploit. None. No arguments about population, night capping, or anything else that justifies it. It's a cheat. Period.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

That said, it's 100% on ZOS, not the players, to fix it or police it. A few clear statements by ZOS followed by some high profile permabans would go a long way in preventing exploit usage until permanent fixes are put in place.

IRL there are consequences for not playing by the rules. In the current state of ESO PVP there are not. You've got a video game, that deals with war, running on the honor system. That cannot continue. Either fix the issues, or punish the abusers (aggressively).

Cinnamon_Spider

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Aren't there still EP ganker sleeper toons in Axe? The thought of AD carebears getting risk free grinding just irks me to no end. Someone has to bring them pain and tears.

AD is the faction that taught everyone how to exploit and use cheesball mechanics. They do not deserve nice things.

There are both EP and DC in there. My DC Templar is there right now and I know of some others.

allen-iverson

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QAVxKEcgk

this is some next-level battiboy gameplay. Can't say i'm surprised.

Flawlless

allen-iverson wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QAVxKEcgk

this is some next-level battiboy gameplay. Can't say i'm surprised.

You sound real salty right now. Working with AD isn't as bad as trying to PvDoor your way to emp.

Mivryna

Flawlless wrote: »

You sound real salty right now. Working with AD isn't as bad as trying to PvDoor your way to emp.

Easy to say after orange has already done it themselves.

Flawlless

Umbranox wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

You sound real salty right now. Working with AD isn't as bad as trying to PvDoor your way to emp.

Easy to say after orange has already done it themselves.

That very well might be true but as far as I know Dynamic, the particular guild were talking about, wasn't involved in that. They only came to help out Panda while he was offline.

Huckdabuck

Seraph702 wrote: »

i think his point is that hes trying to pvdoor an emp and hes salty that no one will let him do so...

You should be MOAR concerned with staying on Azura's and feeding me your sweet, delicious AP!

Ghostbane

Umbranox wrote: »

Considering that he's only the emperor because he has the support of two colluding factions, I don't think Team Orange has any legitimacy in complaining about underhanded tactics. Especially given that he constantly uses the Dragon Leap exploit..

Leaping anything on a valid X-axis is not an exploit, but an intention of the abilities mechanics. Similar to WW leap and Ambush, both of which provide the same option. Its been said time and time again by players and clarified by staff, that it is not an exploit since the F-Leap bug was fixed to be strictly X-axis. Which was a very long time ago..

Smolt

Seraph702 wrote: »

Dont try to flip emps when Crassius sleeps ^.^


-Unruh Dynamic GM Ghet Ghud ^.^

Pretty sure he doesn't actually sleep. He clings to his emperor status as though his life depends on it. Go flip a few resources and see how long he takes to show up. Also not sure how someone gets 500k ap in a couple days on a dead campaign.

Crassius has been the emp on that server for over a month. He lost it two or three times and regains emp within a day every time via pvdoor late at night with almost no resistance. I've seen this happen on the map. Red would take it, then crassius and his underlings would pvdoor the inner keeps, flagging two at a time without touching outposts. Emp then promptly returns to the sewer and continues to solo grind tel var.

There is definitely something off...