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Snipe needs to be learned earlier on.
Jade1986
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I can't be the only one that thinks snipe needs to be learned at an earlier level on the weapon tree. Every other heavy hitting ability is learned far earlier, and in some cases they are the first ability learned, yet snipe for some unknown reason gets lvl 38? Playing a bow based nb is just PAINFUL before we have our one heavy hitting ability. It needs to be switched with the ability in front of it, 38 is way way too long for our only bursty ability.
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Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭I think it's fine. If you use a training bow you can get it at around 26.
Bow has the best stamina skill for grinding and it's super quick to get.Here since Beta.
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✭✭✭✭✭[Sarcasm]Sure, why not? As long as we move Bolt Escape, Fear, Inhale, Rally, Impulse and Radiant Destruction up too. In fact, why have to work for powerful skills, or wait for anything at all? Unlock everything at level 3.
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Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭What about DK's whip...If your Magicka you don't get your MAIN dps ability till the last skill lol. I can wait till lvl 38 for snipe.0 -
I can't be the only one that thinks snipe needs to be learned at an earlier level on the weapon tree. Every other heavy hitting ability is learned far earlier, and in some cases they are the first ability learned, yet snipe for some unknown reason gets lvl 38? Playing a bow based nb is just PAINFUL before we have our one heavy hitting ability. It needs to be switched with the ability in front of it, 38 is way way too long for our only bursty ability.
with training trait and xp pots u can unlock snipe just as u leave your first main area without pots it will be 1/3 of the way thro the second area
Edited by karldavy149b16_ESO on January 8, 2016 4:27PM0 -
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✭A nb complaining about their 1 "hard hitting ability" being too difficult to get? Wow.1 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭[Sarcasm]Sure, why not? As long as we move Bolt Escape, Fear, Inhale, Rally, Impulse and Radiant Destruction up too. In fact, why have to work for powerful skills, or wait for anything at all? Unlock everything at level 3.
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You do realize I am talking about an offensive burst ability not defensive abilities? Crystal frags, solar flare, uppercut, ransack, assassins blade, jabs, etc, all are learned very early on, what does bow get? 1 worthless dot, a 10 meter gap creator, and 2 aoes.bikerangelo wrote: »A nb complaining about their 1 "hard hitting ability" being too difficult to get? Wow.
Oh look at that, such a constructive reply! Look! A wild ignore button appeared!Moglijuana wrote: »What about DK's whip...If your Magicka you don't get your MAIN dps ability till the last skill lol. I can wait till lvl 38 for snipe.
That shoudn't be the case either.
Edited by Jade1986 on January 8, 2016 10:25PM0 -
Drakilian✭✭✭Well, it isn't the case. Whip is fourth in the ardent flame tree. Those first fourth levels come fast, it's the fifth that always takes forever to get to.Just call me Drak0
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✭✭✭Well, it isn't the case. Whip is fourth in the ardent flame tree. Those first fourth levels come fast, it's the fifth that always takes forever to get to.
Well there ya go! Not versed in magicka dks =P. I would totally be cool with it being the fourth ability, but the fifth? Painful.....Edited by Jade1986 on January 8, 2016 10:30PM0 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Well, it isn't the case. Whip is fourth in the ardent flame tree. Those first fourth levels come fast, it's the fifth that always takes forever to get to.
you right. lol. i probably thought it was last bc the actual last ability is useless lol.0 -
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That is still a pretty long time versus things like crystal frags which is just as hard hitting and is the very first ability you get. Same cast time and all.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agree with OP 100%!
Also , Impulse needs to learned much earlier, too. Grinding up a Magicka DK is absolute hell because they have no hard-hitting AOE (other than the Standard of Might ultimate).#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
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✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Agree with OP 100%!
Also , Impulse needs to learned much earlier, too. Grinding up a Magicka DK is absolute hell because they have no hard-hitting AOE (other than the Standard of Might ultimate).
Yeah, the standard of might has a ridiculous ultimate cost as well now. Versus other ultimates that are just as, or stronger, that have half or 1/3 of its cost.....0 -
cschwingeb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Weapon skills are not that comparable to class skills. The 4th weapon ability takes a skill level of 20, whereas the 4th class ability takes a skill of 30. A huge difference
Also, weapon skill lines can be trained a LOT faster with the training trait. There is no option to speed up class skill lines other than bookcases... Which also work for weapon skills0 -
SRASinister✭✭✭I don't want to be triple sniped by a level 10 though either.Xbox One NA: Sins of Daemons0 -
Johngo0036✭✭✭✭✭Drop the bow and go 2H where you can get your hardest hitting ability at level 14..
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✭✭✭SRASinister wrote: »I don't want to be triple sniped by a level 10 though either.
Just as bad as being triple fragged at 10, or triple WBd at 14. Really no reason to give some skill lines their abilities straight away, and bows at 38.0 -
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✭✭✭I'm not sure I agree with the premise. Snipe is not the only good ability of Bow.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
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SRASinister✭✭✭SRASinister wrote: »I don't want to be triple sniped by a level 10 though either.
Just as bad as being triple fragged at 10, or triple WBd at 14. Really no reason to give some skill lines their abilities straight away, and bows at 38.
No a triple snipe is not doing the snipe animation three times. It is basically where your character stops moving and can just fall over dead. You have to hard cast the two you mentioned, and you can see the animations.Edited by SRASinister on January 13, 2016 12:40AMXbox One NA: Sins of Daemons0 -
DracoBeowulf✭✭✭I think it's fine. If you use a training bow you can get it at around 26.
Bow has the best stamina skill for grinding and it's super quick to get.
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✭✭✭DracoBeowulf wrote: »
Lost me as well.SRASinister wrote: »SRASinister wrote: »I don't want to be triple sniped by a level 10 though either.
Just as bad as being triple fragged at 10, or triple WBd at 14. Really no reason to give some skill lines their abilities straight away, and bows at 38.
No a triple snipe is not doing the snipe animation three times. It is basically where your character stops moving and can just fall over dead. You have to hard cast the two you mentioned, and you can see the animations.
That is a developer flaw, not a flaw of the skill line, the skill line should not be punished because of a bad dev team.2 -
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✭what does bow get? 1 worthless dot, a 10 meter gap creator, and 2 aoes.
If you believe this, you're not really using the bow to its full capabilities and might want to switch weapons. Poison injection is deadly. Acid spray is deadly. Bombard (or whatever the opposite morph of acid is) is awesome.
Your not liking these is probably slowing your progression to snipe. If you had the other bow abilities slotted the line would level faster. And if you're utterly committed to only using snipe...sigh...go complete 10-15 quests without doing the final turn in. Get a training bow and slot as many bow abilities as possible then go turn them all in at once with the bow equipped, hopped up on psijic if younwant t to level even faster. You'll get to snipe super fast.0 -
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✭✭✭what does bow get? 1 worthless dot, a 10 meter gap creator, and 2 aoes.
If you believe this, you're not really using the bow to its full capabilities and might want to switch weapons. Poison injection is deadly. Acid spray is deadly. Bombard (or whatever the opposite morph of acid is) is awesome.
Your not liking these is probably slowing your progression to snipe. If you had the other bow abilities slotted the line would level faster. And if you're utterly committed to only using snipe...sigh...go complete 10-15 quests without doing the final turn in. Get a training bow and slot as many bow abilities as possible then go turn them all in at once with the bow equipped, hopped up on psijic if younwant t to level even faster. You'll get to snipe super fast.
I had all 4 other skills slotted, still took eons. And I know the other are good, but when 1 v 1 ing a magicka nightblade you are a free kill without snipe.0 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭DracoBeowulf wrote: »
Bombard!
It literally is spamable, perma roots all mobs in the cone and does nice damage in pve properly gear/speced.
It's perfect for pulling 12+mobs mindlessly, over and over and over. And if you find mostly melee mobs, you can just sit back and LOL at them.
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✭✭✭✭✭DracoBeowulf wrote: »
Bombard!
It literally is spamable, perma roots all mobs in the cone and does nice damage in pve properly gear/speced.
It's perfect for pulling 12+mobs mindlessly, over and over and over. And if you find mostly melee mobs, you can just sit back and LOL at them.
Yeah I actually grind with this. Pull groups of mobs with light attacks, arrow barrage, then bombard a few times to root them under the barrage while dealing a large amount of damage. Literally only takes one barrage and a few bombards to kill an entire group.
I love grinding with the bow.0
