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Stealth ambush. Bugged?
DeeBeet
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Everytime I get ambushed>surprised attacked from stealth on my dk there's always a stun after the surprise attack.
I did a test on my nightblade and ambush doesn't pull you out of stealth immediately, making you able to land a surprise attack from stealth resulting a stun.
So that's a double cc.
1 sec root from ambush, and then an empowered concealed weapon (+10% stronger from master assassin passive) that'll stun you, which also gives you a major armor debuff.
Edited by DeeBeet on January 7, 2016 9:40AM I did a test on my nightblade and ambush doesn't pull you out of stealth immediately, making you able to land a surprise attack from stealth resulting a stun.
So that's a double cc.
1 sec root from ambush, and then an empowered concealed weapon (+10% stronger from master assassin passive) that'll stun you, which also gives you a major armor debuff.
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MormondPayne_EP✭✭✭✭Everytime I get ambushed>surprised attacked from stealth on my dk there's always a stun after the surprise attack.
I did a test on my nightblade and ambush doesn't pull you out of stealth immediately, making you able to land a surprise attack from stealth resulting a stun.
So that's almost a double cc.
1 sec root from ambush, and then an empowered concealed weapon that'll stun you, which also gives you a minor debuff.
That is correct.
From stealth and ambush on another player will keep you in stealth allowing you to land a stealth Surprise attack.
@Sypher showed this on one of the "We are ESO" podcasts a while back. There is some video footage proving it.
Worryingly, if you have camo hunter active you can land a stealth surprise attack + camo hunter proc + Surprise Attack + another camo hunter because both of these attacks count as from stealth.
If you then weave in a light attack, the potential is there for 3 camo hunter procs which means this is practically death without being able to react. There are players online at the moment who are actively exploiting this broken mechanic.
Edit: spellingEdited by MormondPayne_EP on January 7, 2016 2:58AM1 -
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✭@ZOS_BrianWheeler is this intended behavior?PS4 NA
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✭✭Back when I had my nightblade I used to be so confused as to how I kept stunning people even though my surprise attack wasn't from stealth. Wow that's some stupid ass design. Glad I use defensive rune, that way those aholes are stunned before they get the chance to pull that on me...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DannyLV702 wrote: »Back when I had my nightblade I used to be so confused as to how I kept stunning people even though my surprise attack wasn't from stealth. Wow that's some stupid ass design. Glad I use defensive rune, that way those aholes are stunned before they get the chance to pull that on me...
Defensive rune is fam.
Got a lot of hate mails from killing gankers xD , you'd be suprised how many are vamps and how many die to a curse + dawnbreaker.PS4 EU DC
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MormondPayne_EP✭✭✭✭MrGigglypants wrote: »Video or its a myth.
https://youtu.be/UQ1I0yUtItI?t=7006
The video is at time 1:57:00 onwards with demonstrations for a few minutes...
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hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭IF Camo Hunter would have an internal CD per enemy of 1 second, you do not get this weird stacked Camo anymore. Such an internal CD would be very consistent with many other procs.
That you can stack from Stealth Ambush & Surprise Attack & 1 Camo proc is imo not wrong, belongs to a sneaky ambush role.
And..... there are enough counters to that !!!
But if you do not WANT to counter, as PRECAUTION, you have to live with the risk of that sneaky ambush
EDIT added:
And for sure, taking precautions will lower your optimal DPS....
So.... if you only bow to the shrine of highest DPS....
well... you die a bit more often... and perhaps whine a bit more on this forum
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✭✭Has anyone at Zos claimed this to be a bug and not an intended feature of the class?
From what it look's like, it's some great class synergy. We will never know until Zos say's something.PS4 NA DC0 -
revonine✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »DannyLV702 wrote: »Back when I had my nightblade I used to be so confused as to how I kept stunning people even though my surprise attack wasn't from stealth. Wow that's some stupid ass design. Glad I use defensive rune, that way those aholes are stunned before they get the chance to pull that on me...
Defensive rune is fam.
Got a lot of hate mails from killing gankers xD , you'd be suprised how many are vamps and how many die to a curse + dawnbreaker.
Yeah I had a vamp templar try to gank me off my horse on the way to Glademist today on my Sorc, it did not end well for him. It ended quickly, but not well.
And you have the right of it, defensive Rune's duration nearly lasts from one keep to another and stops a gank in it's tracks allowing you to recover.GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Has anyone at Zos claimed this to be a bug and not an intended feature of the class?
From what it look's like, it's some great class synergy. We will never know until Zos say's something.
It does doesn't it? ZOS hasn't acknowledged a bug to my knowledge anyway. Does this work with Lotus + Concealed? I haven't noticed yet, but I've only just switched back to magblade.Edited by revonine on January 7, 2016 9:02PM0 -
Zyle✭✭✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Has anyone at Zos claimed this to be a bug and not an intended feature of the class?
From what it look's like, it's some great class synergy. We will never know until Zos say's something.
It was briefly mentioned in the AoE Caps Discussion thread:...
Here are some additional issues we’re considering based on your feedback from this thread:
• Cone abilities are much harder to hit with than a standard circle, but aren't more effective
• Multiple gap closers used on the same target means they can’t move
• Cammo hunter stealth attacks can double proc, killing targets very quickly
• Force pulse counts as 3 reflects against Reflective Scales
• Retreating Maneuver buff sticks on healers while they are casting
• XP to advance Assault and Support skill lines is very high
...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2494599#Comment_2494599
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revonine✭✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Has anyone at Zos claimed this to be a bug and not an intended feature of the class?
From what it look's like, it's some great class synergy. We will never know until Zos say's something.
It was briefly mentioned in the AoE Caps Discussion thread:...
Here are some additional issues we’re considering based on your feedback from this thread:
• Cone abilities are much harder to hit with than a standard circle, but aren't more effective
• Multiple gap closers used on the same target means they can’t move
• Cammo hunter stealth attacks can double proc, killing targets very quickly
• Force pulse counts as 3 reflects against Reflective Scales
• Retreating Maneuver buff sticks on healers while they are casting
• XP to advance Assault and Support skill lines is very high
...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2494599#Comment_2494599
That's camo hunter though, though I'm feeling the same stealth mechanics are at work here.Edited by revonine on January 7, 2016 9:09PM0 -
Zyle✭✭✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Has anyone at Zos claimed this to be a bug and not an intended feature of the class?
From what it look's like, it's some great class synergy. We will never know until Zos say's something.
It was briefly mentioned in the AoE Caps Discussion thread:...
Here are some additional issues we’re considering based on your feedback from this thread:
• Cone abilities are much harder to hit with than a standard circle, but aren't more effective
• Multiple gap closers used on the same target means they can’t move
• Cammo hunter stealth attacks can double proc, killing targets very quickly
• Force pulse counts as 3 reflects against Reflective Scales
• Retreating Maneuver buff sticks on healers while they are casting
• XP to advance Assault and Support skill lines is very high
...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2494599#Comment_2494599
That's camo hunter though, though I'm feeling the same stealth mechanics are at work here.
Yeah that's what I'm hoping is true and they can knock out both bugs with 1 fix.
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