Are you satisfied without a player wide auction house?

Wolfshead

No

darkdivideb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes because it lessens the amount of ppl buying everything up & putting them up at inflated prices.

You do know that trader guild do inflated price as it now right i have see thing that you can buy for vendor being sold for over price and i repice book, craft mats also be sold for over price honest this "trader" system we have now we can never get normal market price on thing that should not be sold for over price.

Fact is that most trader guild know that majority people wont run around check price so therefore the set what price the wont with Global AH people can check prices and honest get same item for cheap price but i guess some people dont know who market price work.

mtwiggz

Yes

Digerati wrote: »

a segregated economy keeps commodities strong. a global auction house would crowd out smaller competitors...

think about it this way... A neighborhood market can thrive until a chain supermarket moves in. The chain supermarket has much more capital to leverage and therefore can achieve lower prices than the neighborhood market.

The segregated economy provides room for a neighborhood market and a chain supermarket. So mom n pop doesn't have to necessarily compete with walmart.

The benefits of this segregated economy outweigh the inconveniences faced by consumers and walmarters.

This person absolutely nailed it. No need to say more.

Sausage

No

Yes, IC was good example what I love about GAHs, when economy was booming, prices vary more in prices, no more under-cutting, no more fixed prices, good player makes a good deal, bad player makes a bad deal. Damn, I chose accidentally No, I meant Yes.

But if Zone chat is gonna come to the game, we might dump the whole GAH idea, its couple month and every GAH has the same price. People just ask/take prices from zone chat.

I hope GAHs stay in the genre, I see potential in them.

RAGUNAnoOne

No

mtwiggz wrote: »

Digerati wrote: »

a segregated economy keeps commodities strong. a global auction house would crowd out smaller competitors...

think about it this way... A neighborhood market can thrive until a chain supermarket moves in. The chain supermarket has much more capital to leverage and therefore can achieve lower prices than the neighborhood market.

The segregated economy provides room for a neighborhood market and a chain supermarket. So mom n pop doesn't have to necessarily compete with walmart.

The benefits of this segregated economy outweigh the inconveniences faced by consumers and walmarters.

This person absolutely nailed it. No need to say more.

Except for the fact that a few people practically own ALL the traders by working together to keep out anyone else so as of now small businesses cannot even start up as the monopoly already owns all the limited resources. if by the LOW chance a guild gets a trader price fixing happens and drives them out out happened to one of our guilds along with a you must talk to the big boss or something like that (not much details given just that something like that was sent).

Mojmir

Don't care

Not really bothered either way,if i need something i go find it,make it,if i cant do either of those i don't need it.besides its one more thing ZOS will screw up

Zorrashi

Yes

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

Digerati wrote: »

a segregated economy keeps commodities strong. a global auction house would crowd out smaller competitors...

think about it this way... A neighborhood market can thrive until a chain supermarket moves in. The chain supermarket has much more capital to leverage and therefore can achieve lower prices than the neighborhood market.

The segregated economy provides room for a neighborhood market and a chain supermarket. So mom n pop doesn't have to necessarily compete with walmart.

The benefits of this segregated economy outweigh the inconveniences faced by consumers and walmarters.

This person absolutely nailed it. No need to say more.

Except for the fact that a few people practically own ALL the traders by working together to keep out anyone else so as of now small businesses cannot even start up as the monopoly already owns all the limited resources. if by the LOW chance a guild gets a trader price fixing happens and drives them out out happened to one of our guilds along with a you must talk to the big boss or something like that (not much details given just that something like that was sent).

You are aware that there are about 100+ kiosks in the game right?
At most, they have only secured a mere handful of cities (Rawl'kha, Elden Root, Mournhold, etc.) not the entire bloody game like you imply. It is easier to get a kiosk in a more remote area (like Woodhearth, Mistral, Skywatch) instead of making a beeline for the best locations.

Korah_Eaglecry

No

There are currently stacks of 10 Alchemy Mats (regardless of how common the Mat may be) on PS4 in Mournhould going for 10k. You can scroll through the entire inventory the Guild Trader has for Alchemy and its all 10k. And its all stacks of 10.

Thats not just inflation. Thats penny pinching. And they can do this because who else are the players to go to for these mats besides these Trade Guilds or spend who knows how much time finding the mats they want in the wild?

The Guild Traders do not prevent inflation. This is a myth thats propagated by anyone NOT paying attention or benefiting from Guild Traders as they are.

Does inflation happen on an Auction House? Yes. But theres a constant stream of players adding items to the AH with all sorts of goals at selling. Some will purposely undercut their opponents in an attempt to sell their wares faster, others will do it in spite of higher prices because they disagree with the notion of selling items at a price out of reach of the common players, others will simply want to make some gold and dont mind going with the flow of the average asking price, others will want to try and raise prices up because they feel theyre underpriced and theyre losing gold and time by selling at the average asking price and others will seek to corner the market. Often enough, those cornering the market can only hold on to that corner as long as they can continue to buy low and sell high. This typically doesnt last long as others will either not buy at all or those listing in competition will keep the price sustained at a lower price or sell at a similar price.

You want to know the biggest difference between a Guild Traders and an AH. A GT excludes the average player from participating while exclusively aiming to provide for the players with the largest coffers. An AH includes everyone who wants to participate while aiming to provide for players with every want and need. Yes there will still be items out of the average players grasp. But there will be nothing preventing that player from participating and earning enough gold through the AH to eventually gain the things they wish to have.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

No

I say no, but I'd be happy to have a better trade UI instead for the traders, as atm the trading is useless to me as it takes way too much time trying to figure out what things are worth, etc.

attackjet

No

I like auction houses. Way easier to buy the things you need

Volkodav

Yes

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Anything that excludes 90% of the community is a bad thing.

Do the maths on the max number of people able to sell via a Guild Trader.

Guild Traders were a sticking plaster they put on the game because the idea of only trading in Cyrodill was just plain stupid.

Sadly they just don't have anyone with the ability to fix the system so like all other problems they ignore it.

Where do you get your "math" numbers? How do you know that 90% of the community is being excluded? I see many "yes"s here that indicate lots of people,including myself have no problem not having an AH.

(not being rude,..just asking.)

Korah_Eaglecry

No

Zorrashi wrote: »

Daedgaming wrote: »

Digerati wrote: »

a segregated economy keeps commodities strong. a global auction house would crowd out smaller competitors...

think about it this way... A neighborhood market can thrive until a chain supermarket moves in. The chain supermarket has much more capital to leverage and therefore can achieve lower prices than the neighborhood market.

The segregated economy provides room for a neighborhood market and a chain supermarket. So mom n pop doesn't have to necessarily compete with walmart.

The benefits of this segregated economy outweigh the inconveniences faced by consumers and walmarters.

Strongly agree if this was real life. Therefore disagree entirely.

The principles apply themselves all the same. A global AH simply isn't without faults just as the guild store system isn't without faults. I believe that @Daedgaming hit the nail on the head with that simple comparison of neighborhood markets vs. supermarkets seeing as how AHs and Guild stores more or less conform to the basic principles that each type of store abides by.

Wrong. Trade Guilds and Guild Traders do the exact opposite of what his comparison was trying to portray. Trade Guilds ARE the Walmarts and Targets. The strongest Trade Guilds hold on to the prime locations and push the smaller Trade Guilds out to the lesser frequented locations. Keeping the small guys small and at times completely killing them off, no one wants to stick with a Trade Guild that isnt capable of providing them the opportunity to sell their wares.

Even more so, AHs provide the small guy the opportunity to compete with the big guy without having to worry about where theyre going to sell from next week.

Guild Traders and Trader Guilds also inflate the price of commodities. Forcing quite a few buyers out of the market by price alone. The benefits of this economy do not outweigh the overwhelming inconveniences not only to consumers but anyone that seeks to participate in the economy. The only person dumb enough to try and twist the way the current economy works into a AH is Walmart and GTs are small business is someone benefiting from perpetuating that nonsense.

Daedgaming

No

I would be content with a system where you could look up different sales and prices of different items and then it tells you which guild trader to go to in order to buy the item.

Merkabeh

No

I was fine with it until I had to buy a stack of galatite (or however it is spelled) ore or ingots to finish crafting my latest set on my tank.

Visited every major city I had access to and not a single trader had ore or ingots. Wasted so much time. Then ended buying from a non trade guild member directly.

Finding specific items in this system can be a completely frustrating experience. Global AH would make buyimg so much more efficient; and when I'm playing, I care more about getting the items efficiently and getting back to actually playing the game. Devs shouldn"t delude themselves, this isn't EvE Online and this fragmented market BS just adds frustration without adding any real benefit.

Nestor

Yes

An Auction House is not needed. I can find whatever I need in one Trading Center unless it is something really rare. And, guess what, a rare thing is supposed to be hard to find.

I don't understand those who are having to travel to all these different places to find something. I never have to for common items.