Magicka DK: Dunmer or Altmer?

Blud

For pvp. Or is there some other race with better synergies?

Prospering

Altmer

Even though magicka dk can be referred to as a sub-par class, altmer is by far the best choice with 9% recovery, 10% max magicka, and 4% elemental damage (includes fire).

lolo_01b16_ESO

Dunmer

Dunmer do more damage and have some extra stamina which is usefull for pvp at the cost of some magicka reg. So unless you want to become a pure healer I'd go with dunmer.

Alucardo

Altmer

Hard to decide really. I went with Altmer, trading the extra 3% flame damage Dunmer get with more max magicka and regen. Altmer still do 4% bonus elemental damage, so that's not too bad considering the other bonuses you get.
Dunmer is probably the more versatile option, because you can quite easily switch between stam and magicka, but if your main aim is magicka, Altmer is always a great choice.

BuggeX

other

Imperial ftw

Asmael

What Altmers and Dunmers have in common:
- 9% max magicka
- 4% fire damage

What Altmers got on top of that:
- 1% max magicka
- 9% magicka recovery
- (4% cold / shock damage => no good unless you go for Crushing Shock / Frost knight build)

What Dunmers got on top of that:
- 3% fire damage
- 6% max stamina
- X flame resistance

Own conclusion: want moar damage? Go Dunmer. Want moar sustain? Go Altmer. Whatever you pick, if you miss on something, grab a few extra CPs.

Septimus_Magna

Altmer

Altmer (magicka regen) for pvp.
Dunmer (fire dmg) for pve.

Draxys

Altmer

Before champ system, they were pretty even. But now with the ability to get 25% extra fire dmg no matter what race, the regen is worth more than the little bit extra fire dmg.

Lucky28

Dunmer

Dunmer.
9% increase to Magicka
6% increase to Stamina
7% increase to flame damage
2047 flame resistance

Sanct16

Dunmer

Dunmer. Easy pick.

Magicka Dk typically has low regen anyway so you don't benefit much from the 10% Altmer regen. You also got a better Stampool which increases the stam return of helping hands passive and battle roar. Also more damage.

Lucky28

Dunmer

Draxys wrote: »

Before champ system, they were pretty even. But now with the ability to get 25% extra fire dmg no matter what race, the regen is worth more than the little bit extra fire dmg.

actually i think the Dunmers Increase to Stamina is more worthwhile for PvP then the magicka regen.especially in this patch of CC madness.

Cuyler

Dunmer

moar damage. Always.

Synnkar

Altmer

While they are both very good and certainly very close in effectiveness, I currently hypothesize that Altmer is the stronger choice for purely Magicka builds. The reason is that the additional 10% regen will push the boundary (while deciding and tweaking on gear) so that you will be able to make the transition from drinks to food easier, therefore gaining a large bump in damage output with your desired level of regen. Champion points will supercharge the 10% racial regen boost, making an even greater difference.

In turn, you only lose 3% on fire damage, which would be more than made up by the increase in magicka pool due to food buff and the lowered downtime due to regen.

Edit: My evaluation here is from a PvP perspective; I don't care much about PvE personally.

Soris

Dunmer

Alucardo wrote: »

Hard to decide really. I went with Altmer, trading the extra 3% flame damage Dunmer get with more max magicka and regen. Altmer still do 4% bonus elemental damage, so that's not too bad considering the other bonuses you get.
Dunmer is probably the more versatile option, because you can quite easily switch between stam and magicka, but if your main aim is magicka, Altmer is always a great choice.

Afaik altmer's elemental expert passive only applies on secondary effects such as burning, not the direct fire damage of your skills.

CavalierPrime

other

Breton

10% Max Magicka
3% Reduced Magicka Cost
4,000 spell resistance

And you can play as a white guy.

Torbschka

Soris wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Hard to decide really. I went with Altmer, trading the extra 3% flame damage Dunmer get with more max magicka and regen. Altmer still do 4% bonus elemental damage, so that's not too bad considering the other bonuses you get.
Dunmer is probably the more versatile option, because you can quite easily switch between stam and magicka, but if your main aim is magicka, Altmer is always a great choice.

Afaik altmer's elemental expert passive only applies on secondary effects such as burning, not the direct fire damage of your skills.

Source? Never heard about that

Soris

Dunmer

No source but it says "...fire, frost and shock EFFECTS..." in the tooltip while in the dunmer passive it says directly "flame damage"

Rylana

Dunmer

Dunmer is the race Dragonknights were meant to be.

Torbschka

Soris wrote: »

No source but it says "...fire, frost and shock EFFECTS..." in the tooltip while in the dunmer passive it says directly "flame damage"

Well, your right. But there are many "famous" people who have choosen HE over DE just for the reason they rate 10% magicka reg above 3% more fire dmg, so I think it improves all fire DMG, at least this is what I've heard. It's the first time some1 is mentioning it, I've never heard anything about that before (cant test it, cuz im on console).

I cant proof it, but im very sure that its 4% more fire dmg at all, I have read that alot in the forums.

KozawahGaming

other

I'm going Breton. I had a Altmer Magicka DK but I wanted to make it more of an Anti-mage build without having to use glyphs to add to my magic resistance. So this way I can improve my magicka and damage with glyphs.

Blud

Torbschka wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

No source but it says "...fire, frost and shock EFFECTS..." in the tooltip while in the dunmer passive it says directly "flame damage"

Well, your right. But there are many "famous" people who have choosen HE over DE just for the reason they rate 10% magicka reg above 3% more fire dmg, so I think it improves all fire DMG, at least this is what I've heard. It's the first time some1 is mentioning it, I've never heard anything about that before (cant test it, cuz im on console).

I cant proof it, but im very sure that its 4% more fire dmg at all, I have read that alot in the forums.

Some of the "famous" people are just smart, skilled, and spend a lot of time playing. They would still be good with an Argonian.

Stamden

3rd Option: Don't make a magika DK, unless you don't plan on playing PvP. Considering you posted in the PvP forum, I would stay away from Magika DKs. Make a cookie cutter stam NB or magika Sorc

Sharee

Be cool. Make him an orc. In heavy armor.

Granted, you'll die more often than not, but every fight you win will feel like an achievement

(personal experience, heh)

Blud

Neighbor wrote: »

3rd Option: Don't make a magika DK, unless you don't plan on playing PvP. Considering you posted in the PvP forum, I would stay away from Magika DKs. Make a cookie cutter stam NB or magika Sorc

Probably every class will have it's time in the sun at some point. There will be nerfs and buffs. Who knows? Maybe Argonian Templars will be the FOTM one day.

Soris

Dunmer

Blud wrote: »

Argonian Templars

Tree menders

Blud

Soris wrote: »

Blud wrote: »

Argonian Templars

Tree menders

Not just "trees."

We're talking about The Hist.