Is becomming a werewolf worth the stamina buff?

altemriel

Hi guys, I am running a stamina DK and I was thinking about becomming a werewolf to get the stamina buff. But then I read about the reduced poison resistance and also the Undaunted skills that have increased damage on werewolves....


From your experience as a stamina character and werewolf, is the stamina buff worth it?

Alucardo

If you just want the werewolf for the stamina regen bonus then there's no risk. You only take the extra poison damage and fighters guild weakness WHILE you're a Werewolf.
You will need to have the Ultimate on your bar to take advantage of the stam regen however.

Septimus_Magna

If you have high weapon dmg werewolf can be quite strong.

As a stam DK your biggest advantage comes from Dragon Leap (only ultimate dealing phyical dmg).
You can have ww on you secondary bar to increase stam regen but I wouldnt put it on the main bar.

lolo_01b16_ESO

If you just want it for the extra stamina recovery, I'd say it's not worth it as you have to have the ultimate slotted. Even if you say you only ever use dragon leap as ultimate flawless dawnbreaker would probably be better to slot for a passive buff.

If you plan on using ww however, then it can be strong if played right.

found1779

You get a 10% stamina recovery and magica recovery with vampire might as well go vampire i loved being a werewolf but recently switched to vampire cause werewolf in my opinion is no longer worth the hassle werewolf in this game needs alot of improvements like werewolf timer needs adjusted drastically and werewolf shouldn't be a ultimate should be a toggle i hate seeing werewolf in the state it's in atm

Alucardo

found1779 wrote: »

You get a 10% stamina recovery and magica recovery with vampire might as well go vampire i loved being a werewolf but recently switched to vampire cause werewolf in my opinion is no longer worth the hassle werewolf in this game needs alot of improvements like werewolf timer needs adjusted drastically and werewolf shouldn't be a ultimate should be a toggle i hate seeing werewolf in the state it's in atm

The only downside to this is your weakness to the most common element in the game, fighters guild abilities, severely decreased health regen, and these weakness stay with you always.
I guess that 10% stam regen will help when sprinting back to the fight after you take a one shot dawnbreaker to the face.

FriedEggSandwich

Fwiw I am terrified of WWs in pvp and will focus one as soon as it appears. They can do insane damage, they have a leap and a fear. I would defo go WW if I had a stam build.

Alucardo

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Fwiw I am terrified of WWs in pvp and will focus one as soon as it appears. They can do insane damage, they have a leap and a fear. I would defo go WW if I had a stam build.

They're insanely tanky now too. I can completely negate the 25% poison weakness with CPs, but the only downside is DKs can reflect your strongest ability. The amount of dogs I've seen kill themselves trying to get through my scales is hilarious.
Honestly, Werewolf or Vampire isn't great, but WW definitely has the best of it imo. Vampires just plain suck (no pun intended)

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

Wasnt there a change and 10% sta bonus applied when you transform to WW?

Maybe roll a khajiit or wait for race changes? Both my sta templar & sta dk are khajiit and I love them.

Skiserony

If you become WW you will get no buff or debuff whatsoever, you do however get the skill line. If you put the WW ultimate on your bar you'll get 15% stamina regen if you're on that bar and have no debuff at all (but the fact you have to fill an ulti slot if you dont actually go in WW mode). If you activate and transform in WW you'll get increased stamina, increased moving speed and increased spell resistance and armor by quite a large amount, however you'll get 25% more incoming damage from poison and all of the Fighters Guild line skills extra effects and damage against undead will also be applied on you if the caster has that passive unlocked.

Imo the WW is very strong and very effective once you know how to fight with it. If you're not careful you'll die faster and do less. But once mastered very strong. I really love fighting in WW mode, especially in PvP.

Septimus_Magna

The use of poison dmg in pvp is pretty limited so the main dangers as a werewolf is being hit with Dawnbreaker or Silver Bolt after you've transformed.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

Wasnt there a change and 10% sta bonus applied when you transform to WW?

Maybe roll a khajiit or wait for race changes? Both my sta templar & sta dk are khajiit and I love them.

The passive stamina regen increase only applies if you have the WW ultimate slotted on your active bar.

laksikus

found1779 wrote: »

You get a 10% stamina recovery and magica recovery with vampire might as well go vampire i loved being a werewolf but recently switched to vampire cause werewolf in my opinion is no longer worth the hassle werewolf in this game needs alot of improvements like werewolf timer needs adjusted drastically and werewolf shouldn't be a ultimate should be a toggle i hate seeing werewolf in the state it's in atm

A toggle would be great but it should be a ulti toggle like overload.
Make it use up. 10 ulti per second you have it active

altemriel

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The use of poison dmg in pvp is pretty limited so the main dangers as a werewolf is being hit with Dawnbreaker or Silver Bolt after you've transformed.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

Wasnt there a change and 10% sta bonus applied when you transform to WW?

Maybe roll a khajiit or wait for race changes? Both my sta templar & sta dk are khajiit and I love them.

The passive stamina regen increase only applies if you have the WW ultimate slotted on your active bar.

hmm, that is not good for me, that I have to have the WW ulti slotted, as I have Take Flight on my active bar and then Dawnbreaker on my secondary bar (waiting to morph it to Flawless, then put it to main bar, for dps increase)....

Chrlynsch

laksikus wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

You get a 10% stamina recovery and magica recovery with vampire might as well go vampire i loved being a werewolf but recently switched to vampire cause werewolf in my opinion is no longer worth the hassle werewolf in this game needs alot of improvements like werewolf timer needs adjusted drastically and werewolf shouldn't be a ultimate should be a toggle i hate seeing werewolf in the state it's in atm

A toggle would be great but it should be a ulti toggle like overload.
Make it use up. 10 ulti per second you have it active

The act of making werewolf a toggle is how will it interact with DK's battle roar.

Just a thought

Artjuh90

i have a stam dk with werewolve and i do like it. in pvp it does nice damage but you are obivious a ww so people will be soon fireing the skills from the fighters guild on you. as for PvE now that you can acually stay longer in ww then 15 seconds it's kinda nice to do delves or just open world as ww

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Mechanically speaking if your not a vampire there is no reason NOT to be a werewolf even if just for the cosmetic or roleplay value or just for the ability to turn others for free or for a profit, you don't need to use it at all and you are 100% identical to a non-werewolf when the ability isn't slotted,, that is unless you want to roleplay as someone who isn't one or someone who is a lich or something which would be a matter of getting your hands on the shroud of the lich set and the soul shriven skin and you would be good to go, even that mind shriven skin would be good.

Robbmrp

altemriel wrote: »

Hi guys, I am running a stamina DK and I was thinking about becomming a werewolf to get the stamina buff. But then I read about the reduced poison resistance and also the Undaunted skills that have increased damage on werewolves....


From your experience as a stamina character and werewolf, is the stamina buff worth it?

That all depends on whether you use an Ultimate that would be other than a werewolf transformation. If you do, then there's no benefit to being a werewolf as the stamina passive only works while the WW Ultimate is on your bar. As soon as you switch to a Bar without it, that regen goes away.

reften

Basically, you can have one of two buff ulties. Flawless for damage buff, or WW for Stam regen.

I prefer more damage.

acw37162

For the Stan regen alone it's meh.

For the Stan regen, really nice burst damage, and ability to turn into a werewolf it's real good.

My only complaint about werewolf is the amount of time your in werewolf from and the lack of gear options for werewolf endgame.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

acw37162 wrote: »

For the Stan regen alone it's meh.

For the Stan regen, really nice burst damage, and ability to turn into a werewolf it's real good.

My only complaint about werewolf is the amount of time your in werewolf from and the lack of gear options for werewolf endgame.

I do wish the salvation set scaled up to Vr16, it very useful for a werewolf focused character however its stuck a few levels below the cap.