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Undaunted Quest Chest Drops

Harvickgm
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Ok, so what is the deal with the drop system with the Undaunted gold/silver key chest. I mean seariously ESO this is the dumbest system ever implemented into a game. Trying to make an endgame character for some people is just impossible, why doesnt the game realize what you already have? I have no need of the exact same shoulder pieces over and over and over again. I am fine the way the helmets are done, because at least you know when you do that dungeon that there is a chance that you will get THAT HELMET, even if its not exactly what you want but you are able to run it at many times as you and friends like to.
But with the shoulders, I have recieved 9 valkyn skoria shoulders and destroyed 6 of them, I have lost count of how many shoulders I have destroyed because they are the exact same thing as the one I already have, and I do mean exact same, but out of the 60+ undaunted quests that i have completed I have not recieved a single engine guardian shoulders ever, as to where others get multiple of them but dont want those.
I dont see why players cant trade undaunted shoulders with other players, or come up with a system where we earn coins and can purchase what we prefer. you always get the excuse that this is done to keep you playing but honestly I would play more because I actually have the gear that I want. This unfair random crap is what makes me want to stop playing because to me its just a waste of time now, after having done so many of these and not even get a single one engine guardian but 9 or more of the valkyn skoria is just stupid. I keep all of my shoulders unless they are exact duplicates. Please come up with something better or allow players to trade shoulder's, Something so that we can actually complete our end-game gear.
  • leepalmer95
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Ok, so what is the deal with the drop system with the Undaunted gold/silver key chest. I mean seariously ESO this is the dumbest system ever implemented into a game. Trying to make an endgame character for some people is just impossible, why doesnt the game realize what you already have? I have no need of the exact same shoulder pieces over and over and over again. I am fine the way the helmets are done, because at least you know when you do that dungeon that there is a chance that you will get THAT HELMET, even if its not exactly what you want but you are able to run it at many times as you and friends like to.
    But with the shoulders, I have recieved 9 valkyn skoria shoulders and destroyed 6 of them, I have lost count of how many shoulders I have destroyed because they are the exact same thing as the one I already have, and I do mean exact same, but out of the 60+ undaunted quests that i have completed I have not recieved a single engine guardian shoulders ever, as to where others get multiple of them but dont want those.
    I dont see why players cant trade undaunted shoulders with other players, or come up with a system where we earn coins and can purchase what we prefer. you always get the excuse that this is done to keep you playing but honestly I would play more because I actually have the gear that I want. This unfair random crap is what makes me want to stop playing because to me its just a waste of time now, after having done so many of these and not even get a single one engine guardian but 9 or more of the valkyn skoria is just stupid. I keep all of my shoulders unless they are exact duplicates. Please come up with something better or allow players to trade shoulder's, Something so that we can actually complete our end-game gear.

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  • Harvickgm
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    you misunderstand what im saying, I dont think people should be allowed to buy it becuase it does take away from it being an elite item/set, but there should be a different way about it, say if I do a few undaunted quest I get coins that I can buy what I want, not have some random generator give me the same crap over and over again
  • NoMaassPliz
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    I made a post about this a few weeks ago. I agree it's a frustrating system and things need to be changed. Unfortunately, with the new vendor coming, it seems unlikely that they will change anything.
  • leepalmer95
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    you misunderstand what im saying, I dont think people should be allowed to buy it becuase it does take away from it being an elite item/set, but there should be a different way about it, say if I do a few undaunted quest I get coins that I can buy what I want, not have some random generator give me the same crap over and over again

    So instead of buying it with gold you want to buy it with tokens?

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  • Steel_Brightblade
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    A guildy of mine suggested helm and bind on pick up gear drops in dungeons should be tradable within that group as long as they remain in the dungeon.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!
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  • Harvickgm
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    A guildy of mine suggested helm and bind on pick up gear drops in dungeons should be tradable within that group as long as they remain in the dungeon.

    See that would be fine, its just this random crap is irritating, when I only need one thing its gives me the same crap I already have, but trading to other players would be nice too. Anything would be better than this crap we have to put up with now
  • Harvickgm
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    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    Sure you can. I'll happily point you to many who would make puppy eyes for the opportunity.
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  • MrDerrikk
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    I'd happily take them all off your hands.
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  • Eyecon74
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    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    True, they should really up the gold, remove any white/green/blue items and maybe instead offer something like a gold upgrade material.. Chance (albeit low) of perhaps a gold weapon..? 99% goes straight in the decon pile, merc motifs I just throw in random guild banks or give them to people, I get 2-3 a day, absolute waste... If anyone on xbox wants them I'd be more than happy to donate any future ones I pick up .:-)
    Edited by Eyecon74 on December 17, 2015 8:55AM
  • Harvickgm
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away
  • Pchela
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    When he says 'give away' he means that everyone's gottem and no one wants them, can't even give them away.
  • Destyran
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Ok, so what is the deal with the drop system with the Undaunted gold/silver key chest. I mean seariously ESO this is the dumbest system ever implemented into a game. Trying to make an endgame character for some people is just impossible, why doesnt the game realize what you already have? I have no need of the exact same shoulder pieces over and over and over again. I am fine the way the helmets are done, because at least you know when you do that dungeon that there is a chance that you will get THAT HELMET, even if its not exactly what you want but you are able to run it at many times as you and friends like to.
    But with the shoulders, I have recieved 9 valkyn skoria shoulders and destroyed 6 of them, I have lost count of how many shoulders I have destroyed because they are the exact same thing as the one I already have, and I do mean exact same, but out of the 60+ undaunted quests that i have completed I have not recieved a single engine guardian shoulders ever, as to where others get multiple of them but dont want those.
    I dont see why players cant trade undaunted shoulders with other players, or come up with a system where we earn coins and can purchase what we prefer. you always get the excuse that this is done to keep you playing but honestly I would play more because I actually have the gear that I want. This unfair random crap is what makes me want to stop playing because to me its just a waste of time now, after having done so many of these and not even get a single one engine guardian but 9 or more of the valkyn skoria is just stupid. I keep all of my shoulders unless they are exact duplicates. Please come up with something better or allow players to trade shoulder's, Something so that we can actually complete our end-game gear.

    Breh i got 12 malubeths heavy well fitted in a row. You gottta admit thats pretty good rng to get the exact same thing a million times in a row
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Ok, so what is the deal with the drop system with the Undaunted gold/silver key chest. I mean seariously ESO this is the dumbest system ever implemented into a game. Trying to make an endgame character for some people is just impossible, why doesnt the game realize what you already have? I have no need of the exact same shoulder pieces over and over and over again. I am fine the way the helmets are done, because at least you know when you do that dungeon that there is a chance that you will get THAT HELMET, even if its not exactly what you want but you are able to run it at many times as you and friends like to.
    But with the shoulders, I have recieved 9 valkyn skoria shoulders and destroyed 6 of them, I have lost count of how many shoulders I have destroyed because they are the exact same thing as the one I already have, and I do mean exact same, but out of the 60+ undaunted quests that i have completed I have not recieved a single engine guardian shoulders ever, as to where others get multiple of them but dont want those.
    I dont see why players cant trade undaunted shoulders with other players, or come up with a system where we earn coins and can purchase what we prefer. you always get the excuse that this is done to keep you playing but honestly I would play more because I actually have the gear that I want. This unfair random crap is what makes me want to stop playing because to me its just a waste of time now, after having done so many of these and not even get a single one engine guardian but 9 or more of the valkyn skoria is just stupid. I keep all of my shoulders unless they are exact duplicates. Please come up with something better or allow players to trade shoulder's, Something so that we can actually complete our end-game gear.

    Breh i got 12 malubeths heavy well fitted in a row. You gottta admit thats pretty good rng to get the exact same thing a million times in a row

    Lately Im getting better traits from silver chests than from the gold ones.

    Light Divines Valkyn Skoria and Light Divines Mephala shoulders from silver.

    About 30x well-fitted and reinforced pieces from the gold chests.
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  • Harvickgm
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Ok, so what is the deal with the drop system with the Undaunted gold/silver key chest. I mean seariously ESO this is the dumbest system ever implemented into a game. Trying to make an endgame character for some people is just impossible, why doesnt the game realize what you already have? I have no need of the exact same shoulder pieces over and over and over again. I am fine the way the helmets are done, because at least you know when you do that dungeon that there is a chance that you will get THAT HELMET, even if its not exactly what you want but you are able to run it at many times as you and friends like to.
    But with the shoulders, I have recieved 9 valkyn skoria shoulders and destroyed 6 of them, I have lost count of how many shoulders I have destroyed because they are the exact same thing as the one I already have, and I do mean exact same, but out of the 60+ undaunted quests that i have completed I have not recieved a single engine guardian shoulders ever, as to where others get multiple of them but dont want those.
    I dont see why players cant trade undaunted shoulders with other players, or come up with a system where we earn coins and can purchase what we prefer. you always get the excuse that this is done to keep you playing but honestly I would play more because I actually have the gear that I want. This unfair random crap is what makes me want to stop playing because to me its just a waste of time now, after having done so many of these and not even get a single one engine guardian but 9 or more of the valkyn skoria is just stupid. I keep all of my shoulders unless they are exact duplicates. Please come up with something better or allow players to trade shoulder's, Something so that we can actually complete our end-game gear.

    Breh i got 12 malubeths heavy well fitted in a row. You gottta admit thats pretty good rng to get the exact same thing a million times in a row

    I feel ya, this *** just gets old after awhile, it seems everyone just gets the same shoulder. Met a guy while doing the vet today who has 6 engine guardian shoulders, and he wanted valkyn skoria lol
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    The Mercenary Motif Chapters are not bound.
    Pchela wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    When he says 'give away' he means that everyone's gottem and no one wants them, can't even give them away.

    I'll bet he could find someone lol after all not everyone does Pledges :p
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on December 20, 2015 1:49AM
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  • Harvickgm
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    The Mercenary Motif Chapters are not bound.
    Pchela wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    When he says 'give away' he means that everyone's gottem and no one wants them, can't even give them away.

    I'll bet he could find someone lol after all not everyone does Pledges :p

    Yea I wasn't talking about the motifs, we were talking about the head and shoulders being bound, so I'm not sure to which the other guy was referring to. The merc motifs are so easy and plentiful that everyone pretty much has them now
  • Baconfat79
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    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.
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    A guildy of mine suggested helm and bind on pick up gear drops in dungeons should be tradable within that group as long as they remain in the dungeon.

    I would like this option as well. but that doesn't address OP complaint about shoulders, which was the focus of this thread. The RNG for chests does seem skewed. I find it odd that drop rate for mercenary motifs is so high while shoulders are the other side of the spectrum.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    60 keys later says otherwise.
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    Dare I ask are you on PC? If so and this is true...Oh *** @UltimaJoe777 better sell your excess chapters now as PC are a patch ahead of us.
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  • Baconfat79
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    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    60 keys later says otherwise.

    I've used FAR more than 60 keys. That doesn't change my viewpoint. Getting the best gear shouldn't be quick or easy, and running those Undaunted dailies every day gives me something to do. I know this sounds crazy, but I actually have fun doing them. If everyone got the gear they wanted after 10 runs, it would be impossible to find groups to do it. I think the current system is great.

  • UltimaJoe777
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    Dare I ask are you on PC? If so and this is true...Oh *** @UltimaJoe777 better sell your excess chapters now as PC are a patch ahead of us.

    Except I don't have any excess chapters lol ...yet :p
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    Unfortunately the metagame of TESO has no patience for the time it takes. They want everything quick fast and in a hurry so they can go PvP and PvE raid until they get bored and quit. Indeed it is quite the backwards priority...
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on December 20, 2015 5:34AM
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  • Baconfat79
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    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    Dare I ask are you on PC? If so and this is true...Oh *** @UltimaJoe777 better sell your excess chapters now as PC are a patch ahead of us.

    Except I don't have any excess chapters lol ...yet :p
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    Unfortunately the metagame of TESO has no patience for the time it takes. They want everything quick fast and in a hurry so they can go PvP and PvE raid until they get bored and quit. Indeed it is quite the backwards priority...

    In the current state of the game, there isn't even any "raid" to do. AA is dead. Hel-Ra is dead. SO is dead. vDSA is dead. You're right that people want their endgame quickly and easily so they can go PvP or go raid, but what large scale "raid" content is there to do? I think THAT is the main problem.
    Edited by Baconfat79 on December 20, 2015 7:00AM
  • whsprwind
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    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    60 keys later says otherwise.

    I've used FAR more than 60 keys. That doesn't change my viewpoint. Getting the best gear shouldn't be quick or easy, and running those Undaunted dailies every day gives me something to do. I know this sounds crazy, but I actually have fun doing them. If everyone got the gear they wanted after 10 runs, it would be impossible to find groups to do it. I think the current system is great.

    Many would just feel discouraged and quit or stop
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  • Harvickgm
    Harvickgm
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    I'm not asking for it to be handed to me, I just completed my 77th undaunted quest tonight. My only point was how I get the same shoulder over and over again rather than getting at least one of each. I don't agree with them allowing the helmets to be sold like they are talking about in the upcoming DLC.
    Someone noted that they have had more items from silver chests than the gold ones and I have to say I have seen that to. Doing a harder quest but receiving nothing for it lately but gold, soul gem and some random cheap blue leather pants
  • Harvickgm
    Harvickgm
    whsprwind wrote: »
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    60 keys later says otherwise.

    I've used FAR more than 60 keys. That doesn't change my viewpoint. Getting the best gear shouldn't be quick or easy, and running those Undaunted dailies every day gives me something to do. I know this sounds crazy, but I actually have fun doing them. If everyone got the gear they wanted after 10 runs, it would be impossible to find groups to do it. I think the current system is great.

    Many would just feel discouraged and quit or stop

    There is always a reason to run them, I normally run the dailies several times a day, once for me and then I'll go help a few people get they're own keys. Plus they should continue to add new items as drops. I would just be happy to finally have my characters gear finished rather than wear a substitute. People mistake this post as a rant to get it for free, no I'm down for the challenge and love this game, just wish the chest had a more even drop and you should get all the shoulders once. Not the same over and over again
  • Harvickgm
    Harvickgm
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    Harvickgm wrote: »
    What're you talking about? I'm totally in it for the repeat loot!

    GIMME MAH GRAND SOUL GEMS NAAAOOOO!!!

    Yea exactly, I hate when you spend the extra effort to get the gold key only to get a little gold and a soul gem. This system makes me want to play less, not more because the rewards for actually doing the optional hard crap just doesn't get a reward as much. And you can't give away them merc motifs anymore lol

    That so? I actually asked my friend about that and he said it isn't bound. He even offered it to me but I told him to keep it lol

    What's not bound?? The helmets and shoulders are both "bound on pickup" so you can't even give them away

    Dare I ask are you on PC? If so and this is true...Oh *** @UltimaJoe777 better sell your excess chapters now as PC are a patch ahead of us.

    Except I don't have any excess chapters lol ...yet :p
    Baconfat79 wrote: »
    I don't understand why everyone seems to want all the top-tier gear just handed to them. If that was the case, you'd run out of stuff to do. Chasing gear is what MMOs are about. That's the majority of the game. I'm fine with the system the way it is. It makes it that much better when you finally get what you've been chasing. It feels like an accomplishment.

    Unfortunately the metagame of TESO has no patience for the time it takes. They want everything quick fast and in a hurry so they can go PvP and PvE raid until they get bored and quit. Indeed it is quite the backwards priority...

    I have over 1100 hours into my one character, but I do agree how a lot of people want it fast, I don't expect it fast but after over 2 months of dailies almost every day I would hope for a little variety. Like I said, I think people are taking what I'm saying out of context
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