This gap closer thing needs to go

leepalmer95

Who decided that every gap closer will force a character to stop for a second?

What purpose was this made for? It accomplishes nothing apart from make it hard for dk's/temp to get pull back. There no well timed dodge rolls anymore just 1 guy gap close you then take 5 more and won't be able to move.

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DannyLV702

If it's already a pain in the ass for my streaking sorc, I can't imagine how much it sucks for you guys. I'm surprised this is still a problem even thought it gets talked about a lot.

JamieAubrey

Learn to block

leepalmer95

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Learn to block

Either way i stop moving?

Junkogen

I'm pretty sure Templars and DKs have gap closers.

Instead of nerfing, how about you ask for fixes. How do you think your so-called "underpowered" class got that way. ZOS nerfs before skills get fixed. Then they fix some skills and then people want those nerfed. Also, I think some people have unrealistic expectations about PvP survival. If you get jumped by a group, you're probably not going to survive.

willymchilybily

Heard it is mechanics introduced that require you to stop for gap closer to make contact because otherwise the player being closed on doesn't know it's happening and the person gap closing doesn't reach where the target is but where they were. But I don't know how reliable the info is. Seemed logical at the time

Glory

Gap closers and roots are the current cheese. Possibly my least favorite form of cheese (and I've lived through perma-bats, bash-bash-bash-bash-bash meta, permablock, elemental block-boom, and the caltrops negating all ground AoE eras if anyone remembers those days).

I'd really love to not be held in place as 3 nightblades ambush-spam me and one DK pressing his wrecking blow button ad nauseum.

Catblade

Agreed

leepalmer95

Junkogen wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Templars and DKs have gap closers.

Instead of nerfing, how about you ask for fixes. How do you think your so-called "underpowered" class got that way. ZOS nerfs before skills get fixed. Then they fix some skills and then people want those nerfed. Also, I think some people have unrealistic expectations about PvP survival. If you get jumped by a group, you're probably not going to survive.

I'm asking them to get rid of the so called fix, i got to attempt a combo but my character astops responding because someone gap closed from 30m away?

It's like cc without any immunity.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Not Agreed, L2 block

I get gap closed all the time I can deal with it..

FriedEggSandwich

Junkogen wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Templars and DKs have gap closers.

Instead of nerfing, how about you ask for fixes. How do you think your so-called "underpowered" class got that way. ZOS nerfs before skills get fixed. Then they fix some skills and then people want those nerfed. Also, I think some people have unrealistic expectations about PvP survival. If you get jumped by a group, you're probably not going to survive.

Your comment just illustrates that you aren't aware/haven't experienced this issue. Your opponent hits gap closer and you get silenced/stunned/rooted for a second regardless of cc immunity and with no cooldown. You can't do anything, not just move, you can't cast either. This thread isn't asking for a nerf but a fix for a broken mechanic related to gap closers.

Kammakazi

I don't think they'll do anything about it any time soon.

You just will have to endure sprinting away, clenching your butt cheeks and hope that you don't see your character stop moving for that half second.

Cathexis

Its funny - love it when I do it to others, hate when it happens to me.

Really though it should probably go - its just stupid when you get zerged that you have almost no chance.

Essiaga

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Who decided that every gap closer will force a character to stop for a second?

What purpose was this made for? It accomplishes nothing apart from make it hard for dk's/temp to get pull back. There no well timed dodge rolls anymore just 1 guy gap close you then take 5 more and won't be able to move.

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I think its like an animation que for your character to take the hit rather then keep moving. Also if person flies at you like this IRL its probably going to stun you for a second.

Only one that bothers me is Ambush because there is no gap required so you end up with the same guy spamming and keeping you pretty much stun locked till CC immunity runs out. Then he fears you.

Xjcon

Clearly a L2 SPAMBUSH thread. If you can't beat em join em.

Catblade

Spambush+Fear=GG

Forestd16b14_ESO

Maybe stop trying to run away and stand and fight like a real soldier of the Alliance.

Draxys

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Not Agreed, L2 block

I get gap closed all the time I can deal with it..

"Dealing with it" is not a sufficient solution for a poor game mechanic.

Preyfar

Junkogen wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Templars and DKs have gap closers.

Templars have Toppling/Explosive Charge, but... it doesn't work, so we only "kind of" have a gap closer. 60% of the time it works every time.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

willymchilybily wrote: »

Heard it is mechanics introduced that require you to stop for gap closer to make contact because otherwise the player being closed on doesn't know it's happening and the person gap closing doesn't reach where the target is but where they were. But I don't know how reliable the info is. Seemed logical at the time

This is true but a better fix would have been to just "extent" the range once you start to close the gap maybe at half the cost but something.

As a Nightblade from Early Beta I don't believe it should silence/stun people that effect was removed from the power.
Rooting people is okay cause that's an effect of the power itself not a bug.

PBpsy

Yep, gap closers should be completely removed to get in line with the supposed ZOS combat mechanics "philosophy".

Necrelios

Something like these might buy you a few seconds of time. The one on the left I take as soon as I see a NB, the one on the right is for all the other guys.



EDIT: Apparently this does not work in this case. Sorry, bad advice. Disregard.

Septimus_Magna

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Not Agreed, L2 block

I get gap closed all the time I can deal with it..

Im just leaving this here how to deal with gap closers

ScooberSteve

Have you tried blocking? Its so dam easy and cost you nothing until they hit you.

Sharee

Gap closers have an animation which takes some time to complete. If gap closers do not stop the target from moving then it may be impossible to close the gap with a fast-moving target - by the time the gap closer animation finishes, the target will already be out of melee range from the spot where the attacker ends up being after the jump.

Troneon

Would also help if most of the skills were like...not broken..

Just an idea...

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Simple solution is to alter every gap closing move in the game, have it so they will still follow the player but not stun lock them so they can't move and instead have it so the only way to not get effected by the attack is to A. Block or B. Move out of the range of the position in where the enemy player used the ability.

Etaniel

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Not Agreed, L2 block

I get gap closed all the time I can deal with it..

Are you serious right now? you know blocking doesn't stop the root/silence right? Please step foot into Cyrodiil before trying to argue on PvP issues.

oibam

Another sorc, who lost godmode while blinking away and got spamed by gap closers...now he cries for nerf xDDDD

Etaniel

oibam wrote: »

Another sorc, who lost godmode while blinking away and got spamed by gap closers...now he cries for nerf xDDDD

This gap closer crap is affecting everyone. not just sorcs.
I play dk and nb and it affects both.

Tower_Of_Shame

oibam wrote: »

Another sorc, who lost godmode while blinking away and got spamed by gap closers...now he cries for nerf xDDDD

The problem is people need to understand this is not crying for nerf this is crying for change this idiotic design of gap closers.

As @Etaniel said earlier in some other topic idk where but it doesnt matter, even if you have that whirling CC immunity under your feet if someone spams ambush on you then you are not immune to that mini stun and you still get locked out and you can't do anything about it period. And this is stupid let's be real...

It only seems like an nb QQ nerf cause ambush and lotus fan THE only gap closer which has no minimum range so they tend to spam thus your character becomes unresponsive and you dead.

Ofc if this nb is alone you just laugh at him and execute him in a matter of seconds, the problem start when small group has one of these guys or 3-4 nb spamming it on you

@Etaniel : Idk it is kinda useless to argue with them... most of these boys don't get the problem