How much DPS "should" I have on my DK?

altemriel · December 2015

Hi guys,

a question for experienced players: How high should be my dps on VR4 on my character?

I am running a stamina DK, dps, currently at VR4, Altmer (I know it is more into magicka, but I don`t want to change to mag DK now yet).

My gear: 5 Hunding`s range, 3 Nightmother`s gaze, 3 jewelry Ravager. Mundus stone: Thief (crit. I am thinking of changing it to Warrior - weapon dmg).
My build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pvp-bullseye-stamina-dragon-knight-burst-build/

edit: my attribute points are: health: 18 (as I also want good HP), stamina: 34

These are my stats (unbuffed, with no food eaten):

main - 2H:

secondary - Bow:

The reason why I am asking is because today on the silver pledge, my guildies told me I should have much higher dps. And that I should change to magicka DK.
Which did not make me very happy

, as I finally learned how to play my build and I just got my VR5 gear crafted from an another guildie. And changing to magicka DK would mean changing armor sets (Hunding is for stam) and build too.

They also told me, that magicka skills are kind of not so good on mag DK, because most of the weapon skills on DK are stamina based, so the only option is staff.
Should I change to magicka (could you please recommend me some good build for that then?), or should I wait until Barber shop and race change (hopefully it will come soon) and change to some stamina race?

edit:

this is how it changed after going for Warrior Mundus stone (weapon dmg):

2H:

bow:

Still not enought for VR4? I am confused, pls help!

Kammakazi · December 2015

At least 21k

altemriel · December 2015

Kammakazi wrote: »

At least 21k

yes but on VR4? Or what VR do you mean @Kammakazi? As dps rises with level, doesn`t it?

CamBam370 · December 2015

First- I highly recommend putting all of your attribute points towards stamina.
- If you want more dps the larger your stamina pool the more dps you will ultimately have.
Your crit is very good as a low vr,
You have not reached end game yet so it is not hard to reset your build to magika

I personally think stamina is better for dps so i would keep trying towards your goal. BUT your race is much better for a magika build because you can have a very large magika pool.

What is your Mundus Stone?

RinOkumara · December 2015

You are gonna need alot more stam. I would recommend putting all of your attributes into stam. Also, you are gonna want to get your weapon damage alot higher. Stack weapon damage as much as possible, make sure all your glyphs are weapon damage etc.
Check out this build for more stam dk stuff.
http://www.deathbytrial.enjin.com/staminadkdps

altemriel · December 2015

CamBam370 wrote: »

First- I highly recommend putting all of your attribute points towards stamina.
- If you want more dps the larger your stamina pool the more dps you will ultimately have.
Your crit is very good as a low vr,
You have not reached end game yet so it is not hard to reset your build to magika

I personally think stamina is better for dps so i would keep trying towards your goal. BUT your race is much better for a magika build because you can have a very large magika pool.

What is your Mundus Stone?

Aha, I forgot to mention that, my attribute points are: health: 18 (as I also want good HP), stamina: 34

Check out the 2 lower images in my original post, before (first 2 images) I had Thief Mundus stone (increase weapon crit), but now I have changed to Warrior Mundus stone (increase weapon damage).

But what I was also asking was, if the dps rises with level (I suppose), if the 21K which @Kammakazi replied, is not meant to be for maybe VR15, not for VR4. I hope I am right with this.

CamBam370 · December 2015

RinOkumara wrote: »

You are gonna need alot more stam. I would recommend putting all of your attributes into stam. Also, you are gonna want to get your weapon damage alot higher. Stack weapon damage as much as possible, make sure all your glyphs are weapon damage etc.
Check out this build for more stam dk stuff.
http://www.deathbytrial.enjin.com/staminadkdps

In that build one of the skills was quick cloak, other than that that is a decent stamina build.

altemriel · December 2015

CamBam370 wrote: »

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RinOkumara wrote: »

You are gonna need alot more stam. I would recommend putting all of your attributes into stam. Also, you are gonna want to get your weapon damage alot higher. Stack weapon damage as much as possible, make sure all your glyphs are weapon damage etc.
Check out this build for more stam dk stuff.
http://www.deathbytrial.enjin.com/staminadkdps

In that build one of the skills was quick cloak, other than that that is a decent stamina build.

yes, the build looks interresting, but I prefer 2H/bow, not 2H/DW..

RinOkumara · December 2015

CamBam370 wrote: »

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RinOkumara wrote: »

You are gonna need alot more stam. I would recommend putting all of your attributes into stam. Also, you are gonna want to get your weapon damage alot higher. Stack weapon damage as much as possible, make sure all your glyphs are weapon damage etc.
Check out this build for more stam dk stuff.
http://www.deathbytrial.enjin.com/staminadkdps

In that build one of the skills was quick cloak, other than that that is a decent stamina build.

what would you recommend instead of duel weild

CamBam370 · December 2015

I would personally recommend DW but it is based on preference.
If you want ranged dps then bow would be your answer

CamBam370 · December 2015

altemriel wrote: »

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CamBam370 wrote: »

First- I highly recommend putting all of your attribute points towards stamina.
- If you want more dps the larger your stamina pool the more dps you will ultimately have.
Your crit is very good as a low vr,
You have not reached end game yet so it is not hard to reset your build to magika

I personally think stamina is better for dps so i would keep trying towards your goal. BUT your race is much better for a magika build because you can have a very large magika pool.

What is your Mundus Stone?

Aha, I forgot to mention that, my attribute points are: health: 18 (as I also want good HP), stamina: 34

Check out the 2 lower images in my original post, before (first 2 images) I had Thief Mundus stone (increase weapon crit), but now I have changed to Warrior Mundus stone (increase weapon damage).

But what I was also asking was, if the dps rises with level (I suppose), if the 21K which @Kammakazi replied, is not meant to be for maybe VR15, not for VR4. I hope I am right with this.

I just want to point out it should be at least 2.1K not 21k

altemriel · December 2015

RinOkumara wrote: »

You are gonna need alot more stam. I would recommend putting all of your attributes into stam. Also, you are gonna want to get your weapon damage alot higher. Stack weapon damage as much as possible, make sure all your glyphs are weapon damage etc.
Check out this build for more stam dk stuff.
http://www.deathbytrial.enjin.com/staminadkdps

And also I realized, you use Unstable Flame and Burning Breath. But no healing skill. I use Rally and Green Dragon Blood instead of these two. I then have critical rush and WB and Exec on my main bar.

altemriel · December 2015

CamBam370 wrote: »

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altemriel wrote: »

CamBam370 wrote: »

First- I highly recommend putting all of your attribute points towards stamina.
- If you want more dps the larger your stamina pool the more dps you will ultimately have.
Your crit is very good as a low vr,
You have not reached end game yet so it is not hard to reset your build to magika

I personally think stamina is better for dps so i would keep trying towards your goal. BUT your race is much better for a magika build because you can have a very large magika pool.

What is your Mundus Stone?

Aha, I forgot to mention that, my attribute points are: health: 18 (as I also want good HP), stamina: 34

Check out the 2 lower images in my original post, before (first 2 images) I had Thief Mundus stone (increase weapon crit), but now I have changed to Warrior Mundus stone (increase weapon damage).

But what I was also asking was, if the dps rises with level (I suppose), if the 21K which @Kammakazi replied, is not meant to be for maybe VR15, not for VR4. I hope I am right with this.

I just want to point out it should be at least 2.1K not 21k

aha

, ok then, that sounds better.

Saint314Louis1985 · December 2015

put all attributes into stam. if you need health, you can put a health glyph or two on your armor as needed but most should be stam. use weapon dmg glyphs on your sword and your jewelry. stack up your weapon damage with gear as much as possible. and use blue or purple food. put your cp points into mighty. use 2h sword + rally and have dawnbreaker loaded on your 2H bar for the +% dmg increase. if you have trouble sustaining weave some heavy attacks in or rely on your healer for shards. thats about it. i use endurance jewelry but most use agility for the additional + weap dmg. its all about your max weapon dmg and your max stam pool.

altemriel · December 2015

Which weapon enchant gives more dps? Glyph of flame damage or Glyph of rage?

tangy.citrus · December 2015

About 7k+.

But its not a huge deal until you hit level cap.
The average at level cap is 14k.

All points into stamina

Run food too for the health bonus. You should put 1 health glyph on armor too.

~~Run thief mundus instead of warrior for W/D.

ryanborror · December 2015

21k is not practical for your level. Your race is better for magicka and magicka dk does most damage for endgame pve. An altmer stam dk won't do most damage but it's still doable. Put all points into stamina. Dual wield will yield highest damage using rapid strikes or flying blade. Other skills you could use: burning breath, unstable flame, green dragon blood, flames of oblivion, rending slashes, steel tornado, rally, executioner, molten weapons, dawn breaker, standard of might, evil hunter and quick cloak. Bow will give you less damage but there are some good builds utilizing molten weapon with bow and fighters guild skills but those do best for pvp ganking. Put Cp into mighty and try and stay in the physical tree for best results. You could benefit from elemental expert but I wouldn't recommend it until higher cp.

altemriel · December 2015

hmm, good to know

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/114598/glyph-of-rage-weapon-damage-bugged-stuck-at-2-weapon-power-at-any-level-or-quality