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Remove Numerical Numbers As Options In Dialogues
Deadmano
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Due to the limitation of ESO on PC I am forced to make macros to actually get the most out of my hotkey slots... That having been said, the numerical buttons on the keyboard, the standard ones and not the numpad ones, cause dialogue choices... Now normally I wouldn't have an issue with that as I quite like the option, however when it comes to macros I often have one set to refresh spells/abilities and due to that if I am in a dialogue it will fire-off and select options for me, without having a chance to read through it all. I am already limited as is, I wouldn't want to now have to manually turn on/off the macro just for dialogues...
Can we get an optional for that in the game settings? Though the real fix here is please give us more ability slots...5 is far too little, even when swapping between the 2.
Can we get an optional for that in the game settings? Though the real fix here is please give us more ability slots...5 is far too little, even when swapping between the 2.
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melianos✭✭I'm quite curious about how you can have more than 10 abilities (at least in combat, if you swap outside combat it's another matter).
And honestly, using macro to refresh spells/abilities... really ? With 10 abilities (And 2 Ultimates) you can't push a few buttons ?
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What exactly is this "limitation" you speak of? Personally I find nothing justifies the use of a macro.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Twilix01✭✭✭I'm going to be the one to say that adding more ability slots will only complicate your issue with refreshing abilities, not fix it in any way. However you can adjust the keybinds for the input in menus if you looked at the control menu.3 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm quite curious about how you can have more than 10 abilities (at least in combat, if you swap outside combat it's another matter).
And honestly, using macro to refresh spells/abilities... really ? With 10 abilities (And 2 Ultimates) you can't push a few buttons ?
Sorcerers have a 3rd ability bar you know
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Digerati✭✭✭✭Pretty sure inputs at interval are "cheating."
There are some macros that are allowed, pretty sure that's not one of em...2 -
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Deadmano✭✭Pretty sure inputs at interval are "cheating."
There are some macros that are allowed, pretty sure that's not one of em...
Because I repeat a series of repetitive tasks so to save my fingers and keyboard I can automate it, recorded in the same speed that I would normally press them all in... Cheating? Hardly so. Saving my fingers and keyboard? You betcha!
Not that I have invested in this yet, as mentioned above the dialogue for NPCs would get in the way of it, but as someone else said you could remap the keys, but then it would mean I can't easily press the 1-5 keys...
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pretty sure inputs at interval are "cheating."
There are some macros that are allowed, pretty sure that's not one of em...
Because I repeat a series of repetitive tasks so to save my fingers and keyboard I can automate it, recorded in the same speed that I would normally press them all in... Cheating? Hardly so. Saving my fingers and keyboard? You betcha!
Not that I have invested in this yet, as mentioned above the dialogue for NPCs would get in the way of it, but as someone else said you could remap the keys, but then it would mean I can't easily press the 1-5 keys... Heh.
Unfortunately this could be argued to be getting close to "botting", which is explicitly forbidden by the TOS. Macro's are a very wary place to be in, because whilst they aren't named as something against the TOS, you could argue that they come under of of the things that are, leading to your account being banned.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Deadmano✭✭Pretty sure inputs at interval are "cheating."
There are some macros that are allowed, pretty sure that's not one of em...
Because I repeat a series of repetitive tasks so to save my fingers and keyboard I can automate it, recorded in the same speed that I would normally press them all in... Cheating? Hardly so. Saving my fingers and keyboard? You betcha!
Not that I have invested in this yet, as mentioned above the dialogue for NPCs would get in the way of it, but as someone else said you could remap the keys, but then it would mean I can't easily press the 1-5 keys... Heh.
Unfortunately this could be argued to be getting close to "botting", which is explicitly forbidden by the TOS. Macro's are a very wary place to be in, because whilst they aren't named as something against the TOS, you could argue that they come under of of the things that are, leading to your account being banned.
I was initially just going to bind a key to swap between my ability bars and activate the Boundless Storm ability (` + 1 + `) as I use it to run around the map, far faster than my horse currently. And simple key combinations for the ones I use over and over in my bank... If ZOS made it easier for us to make such things happen... And I will be banned for setting a key to do the same actions I do in the same amount of time...
Anyway, I will rather stick to manually pressing all these buttons than risk the grey area. There is a ton that needs to be added/updated in any event, with which I hope there is a better ability bar specifically for PC players.0 -
MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭I was initially just going to bind a key to swap between my ability bars and activate the Boundless Storm ability (` + 1 + `) as I use it to run around the map, far faster than my horse currently. And simple key combinations for the ones I use over and over in my bank... If ZOS made it easier for us to make such things happen... And I will be banned for setting a key to do the same actions I do in the same amount of time...
Anyway, I will rather stick to manually pressing all these buttons than risk the grey area. There is a ton that needs to be added/updated in any event, with which I hope there is a better ability bar specifically for PC players.
I personally find the ability bar to be fine; it's good to have a small amount of abilities as:
1. It's hard enough currently trying to figure out a new skill set when you've started switching them around
2. It makes different skills worth a lot more in that you have to choose much more wisely
3. It means I don't have to bind 50,000 keys for the different skills, and means I can actually use all of my skills from my mouse thumb buttons.
4. Some other reasons.
Other than the more limited amount of skill slots you're accustomed to, what other problems with the ESO skill bar/UI do you have? I haven't found too many is all.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Miszou✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why not just make your macro respond to a single key press, instead of firing it off on a timer?
I can't imagine how a timed macro could possibly make anything easier, as you've already discovered...
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Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
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A single key press is what it normally takes to use an ability without macroing. He uses macros because he can't be bothered to refresh his abilities, which to me means he's halfway a bot and all the way a cheater. Even if Zenimax doesn't punish this behavior, they certainly shouldn't accommodate it by changing dialogues (or any other features) like he asked.Why not just make your macro respond to a single key press, instead of firing it off on a timer?
I can't imagine how a timed macro could possibly make anything easier, as you've already discovered...3 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Due to the limitation of ESO on PC I am forced to make macros to actually get the most out of my hotkey slots... That having been said, the numerical buttons on the keyboard, the standard ones and not the numpad ones, cause dialogue choices... Now normally I wouldn't have an issue with that as I quite like the option, however when it comes to macros I often have one set to refresh spells/abilities and due to that if I am in a dialogue it will fire-off and select options for me, without having a chance to read through it all. I am already limited as is, I wouldn't want to now have to manually turn on/off the macro just for dialogues...
Can we get an optional for that in the game settings? Though the real fix here is please give us more ability slots...5 is far too little, even when swapping between the 2.
That's called cheating.
Edited by Ackwalan on December 14, 2015 6:27AM1 -
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Pretty sure inputs at interval are "cheating."
There are some macros that are allowed, pretty sure that's not one of em...
Because I repeat a series of repetitive tasks so to save my fingers and keyboard I can automate it, recorded in the same speed that I would normally press them all in... Cheating? Hardly so. Saving my fingers and keyboard? You betcha!
Not that I have invested in this yet, as mentioned above the dialogue for NPCs would get in the way of it, but as someone else said you could remap the keys, but then it would mean I can't easily press the 1-5 keys... Heh.
Unfortunately this could be argued to be getting close to "botting", which is explicitly forbidden by the TOS. Macro's are a very wary place to be in, because whilst they aren't named as something against the TOS, you could argue that they come under of of the things that are, leading to your account being banned.
What in "You agree not to use any hardware or software not authorized by Zos that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services" is so difficult to grasp. The program used to record and edit keystrokes is the "software" and i.e. a Razor mouse is a hardware... There is no need to use the word "Macro" in the ToS, it's fully covered by it alright.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Idinuse
This is a topic that has been discussed many, many times over before on these forums, and the end consensus is that because macro's are not explicitly listed as something banned in the TOS, you could probably argue against you being banned for using them the first time, saying that you didn't know.
In my opinion, yes they are against the TOS.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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✭✭@MrDerrikk, in retrospect, I see that my post might make the impression of being directed to you, I'm sorry for that, it was in general to people who want to believe that Macros are not covered by the ToS simply because the word "Macro" isn't expressly mentioned. I do share you view as well as opinion in this matter.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Generally I have never known an MMO company ban someone for macro use which require a player present to activate them, it's not considered botting/cheating by most because a player still needs to be present to activate the key sequences when required.
On topic however, I don't see any reason why ZOS shouldn't give the options to choose if players want those binds or not within dialogue options.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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