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No death vMA Stamina DK Xelok+ Stamina NBi!! (Updated: VIdeo uploaded DK+NB)

  • zornyan
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    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    World first stamina no death vMA? Unless sb puts veto I guess lol

    31b7cee7aacbc852a93474018dd79530.jpg

    I will upload run soon on youtube

    Nice dude congrats.

    Reckon you could do this on a magicka templar?

    Do you find rounds 3 and 6 easier after this week's nerfs to them? Particularly the stranglers,

    Thx, well I do not have a Magplar yet and I do not have Magicka Gear because those things are stupidly expensive bc of mats etc.....
    However, It is possible, @Nifty2g got close to a nodeath run iirc. It is possible on all classes, but it is definitely not easy on all the classes and different setups.

    Round 3 is better now, finally the broken pull mechanic removed which results in a lot less unnecessary deaths.
    (they could have fixed it too but I guess they did not find out how so they just replaced the skill of strangler)
    Round 6 I dunno if it got nerfed? It felt the same as usual. Usually I have no issues there unless shrines do not light up


    Round 3 has caused me many many many deaths, usually I'm doing fine, see a stranger spawn and before I can close the gap it's rubber banded me and caused me to get stuck in the insta gib water.

    Round 6 had a few changes I heard, need to reread patch notes.

    You think it would be easier on magiplar? Due to more self healing/sustain? Especially from sweeps.

    Also do you think this could be done on a vampire due to round 9 fire damage? If you put all first CP into fire damage reduction?

    Well yes it is easier on magplar, stamplar atm is the WORST choice of all setups actually. Like worst of the worst of the worst. BC ZOS likes nerfing Templars :(

    Well ye you just maybe need Ward to be safe I guess.

    Didn't you get the memo alcast? About 4 people on this and Tamriel foundry praising stamplar as the best stam race around! No wonder zos nerfed that super op blazing spears. :trollface:

    Yeah that's what I thought about ward tbh.
  • Alcast
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    World first stamina no death vMA? Unless sb puts veto I guess lol

    31b7cee7aacbc852a93474018dd79530.jpg

    I will upload run soon on youtube

    Nice dude congrats.

    Reckon you could do this on a magicka templar?

    Do you find rounds 3 and 6 easier after this week's nerfs to them? Particularly the stranglers,

    Thx, well I do not have a Magplar yet and I do not have Magicka Gear because those things are stupidly expensive bc of mats etc.....
    However, It is possible, @Nifty2g got close to a nodeath run iirc. It is possible on all classes, but it is definitely not easy on all the classes and different setups.

    Round 3 is better now, finally the broken pull mechanic removed which results in a lot less unnecessary deaths.
    (they could have fixed it too but I guess they did not find out how so they just replaced the skill of strangler)
    Round 6 I dunno if it got nerfed? It felt the same as usual. Usually I have no issues there unless shrines do not light up


    Round 3 has caused me many many many deaths, usually I'm doing fine, see a stranger spawn and before I can close the gap it's rubber banded me and caused me to get stuck in the insta gib water.

    Round 6 had a few changes I heard, need to reread patch notes.

    You think it would be easier on magiplar? Due to more self healing/sustain? Especially from sweeps.

    Also do you think this could be done on a vampire due to round 9 fire damage? If you put all first CP into fire damage reduction?

    Well yes it is easier on magplar, stamplar atm is the WORST choice of all setups actually. Like worst of the worst of the worst. BC ZOS likes nerfing Templars :(

    Well ye you just maybe need Ward to be safe I guess.

    Didn't you get the memo alcast? About 4 people on this and Tamriel foundry praising stamplar as the best stam race around! No wonder zos nerfed that super op blazing spears. :trollface:

    Yeah that's what I thought about ward tbh.

    I mean Biting Jabs does same dmg as Puncturing sweeps without the heals. And Magplar has BoL, dark flare and all that ***. It has the option to go ranged. Stamplar noperino. I mean in trial Stamplar still okey with Rapid strikes and Rending Slashes maelstrom daggers, but for vMA RIP. It is doable, but it is really quite annoying compared to other classes.
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  • Dracane
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    @Alcast I'm waiting for you to upload the video already ;) Spamming F5 right now
    Edited by Dracane on December 3, 2015 7:09PM
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  • Alcast
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    Dracane wrote: »
    @Alcast I'm waiting for you to upload the video already ;) Spamnmning F5 right now

    86c4a04b0da78b6f47cdecfefcee3128.png

    And then prolly 4h-10h processing lol
    Edited by Alcast on December 3, 2015 7:12PM
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  • Dracane
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Alcast I'm waiting for you to upload the video already ;) Spamnmning F5 right now

    86c4a04b0da78b6f47cdecfefcee3128.png

    And then prolly 4h-10h processing lol

    Oh alright :( Will you keep it running over night ?
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  • Alcast
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Alcast I'm waiting for you to upload the video already ;) Spamnmning F5 right now

    86c4a04b0da78b6f47cdecfefcee3128.png

    And then prolly 4h-10h processing lol

    Oh alright :( Will you keep it running over night ?

    Yes maybe I get it rdy in time in 3h we will see. But its def up in 12h
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  • Sav72
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    Grats man, very impressive!


    I am so tired of think, trying, and watching videos oh how to beat V Mael.

    What is sad is every video people I watched people are Animation-canceling.

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  • asneakybanana
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    Sav72 wrote: »
    Grats man, very impressive!


    I am so tired of think, trying, and watching videos oh how to beat V Mael.

    What is sad is every video people I watched people are Animation-canceling.

    animation cancelling is required for any high level of play. Its a fairly difficult technique to totally master like alcast has but if you do its very rewarding. I would strongly suggest learning how to animation cancel before trying the vet arena as its pretty much a necessary skill.
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  • Nifty2g
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    Sav72 wrote: »
    Grats man, very impressive!


    I am so tired of think, trying, and watching videos oh how to beat V Mael.

    What is sad is every video people I watched people are Animation-canceling.

    animation cancelling is required for any high level of play. Its a fairly difficult technique to totally master like alcast has but if you do its very rewarding. I would strongly suggest learning how to animation cancel before trying the vet arena as its pretty much a necessary skill.
    @asneakybanana I've been doing it for so long it's just muscle memory now, the thing is the only people who animation cancel these days are the OG people. None of the new guys seem to do it.

    The hardest thing to animation cancel/weave was back in the day was snipe, when the stamina meta slowly made its return, that was lame to learn
    #MOREORBS
  • Alcast
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Sav72 wrote: »
    Grats man, very impressive!


    I am so tired of think, trying, and watching videos oh how to beat V Mael.

    What is sad is every video people I watched people are Animation-canceling.

    animation cancelling is required for any high level of play. Its a fairly difficult technique to totally master like alcast has but if you do its very rewarding. I would strongly suggest learning how to animation cancel before trying the vet arena as its pretty much a necessary skill.
    @asneakybanana I've been doing it for so long it's just muscle memory now, the thing is the only people who animation cancel these days are the OG people. None of the new guys seem to do it.

    The hardest thing to animation cancel/weave was back in the day was snipe, when the stamina meta slowly made its return, that was lame to learn

    Bow Snipe > LA was good ani cancel dps...but then 1.6 came and they changed the animation and killed Bow builds ><
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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Seen a few people in EU DC walking with that title for days now. They didn't make threads about it.

    That's because they were Magicka Sorcs so there's nothing particulary impressive about it. :trollface:
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Gratz, Alcast!

    A slight flicker of hope for my Stam DK ...
  • Nifty2g
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    lol the only chance i get to go ranged is on round 7 boss but even then that is some bs because venomcallers spawn during round intervals
    #MOREORBS
  • asneakybanana
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Sav72 wrote: »
    Grats man, very impressive!


    I am so tired of think, trying, and watching videos oh how to beat V Mael.

    What is sad is every video people I watched people are Animation-canceling.

    animation cancelling is required for any high level of play. Its a fairly difficult technique to totally master like alcast has but if you do its very rewarding. I would strongly suggest learning how to animation cancel before trying the vet arena as its pretty much a necessary skill.
    @asneakybanana I've been doing it for so long it's just muscle memory now, the thing is the only people who animation cancel these days are the OG people. None of the new guys seem to do it.

    The hardest thing to animation cancel/weave was back in the day was snipe, when the stamina meta slowly made its return, that was lame to learn

    totally agree w/ muscle memory. It actually feels weird not to weave lol and the hardest animation cancel was scalding rune light attack. It just didnt work unless you had it pretty much perfect.
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  • BugCollector
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    Very nice! I, myself, would love to like Maelstrom Arena, but I just can't enjoy a solo instance in an MMORPG.
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Alcast wrote: »
    World first stamina no death vMA? Unless sb puts veto I guess lol

    31b7cee7aacbc852a93474018dd79530.jpg

    I will upload run soon on youtube

    Any glyphs used?!
  • Alcast
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    World first stamina no death vMA? Unless sb puts veto I guess lol

    31b7cee7aacbc852a93474018dd79530.jpg

    I will upload run soon on youtube

    Any glyphs used?!

    Sigils? Ye, used quite a lot just to be save.
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  • Alucardo
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    Grats mate
  • NoMoreChillies
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    gratz
    truly impressive
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  • Dracane
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    To be honest, if you just take all sigils in each round, nothing can really happen in my opinion.
    Bad luck can always hit you in some certain arenas. But with all Sigils, I don't see a big challenge in completing everything without dying+ super fast. Don't want to undermine his success, but still.
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  • Jura23
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    Dracane wrote: »
    To be honest, if you just take all sigils in each round, nothing can really happen in my opinion.
    Bad luck can always hit you in some certain arenas. But with all Sigils, I don't see a big challenge in completing everything without dying+ super fast. Don't want to undermine his success, but still.

    This might be true in theory, if it was really the case, somebody would surely do it earlier.

    Too bad the leaderboards has no info on this.
    Edited by Jura23 on December 3, 2015 10:24PM
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  • Jitterbug
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    that literally almost brought a tear to my eye, beautiful title

    oh, and, nerf everything
  • Jitterbug
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    Jura23 wrote: »
    That's pretty impressive!

    Which is sad, because it says something about balance. ;)

    Give it a rest, it's a party! :D
  • i3ig_Gun
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    That is amazing! Nice work man, gives me hope for my Stamina DK
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  • Dracane
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    Jura23 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    To be honest, if you just take all sigils in each round, nothing can really happen in my opinion.
    Bad luck can always hit you in some certain arenas. But with all Sigils, I don't see a big challenge in completing everything without dying+ super fast. Don't want to undermine his success, but still.

    This might be true in theory, if it was really the case, somebody would surely do it earlier.

    Too bad the leaderboards has no info on this.

    If you know the Arena well enough and use all Sigils, I don't see a problem in completing it without dying.
    So either nobody knew the Arena well enough so far, or it's really not as easy as I claim. Maybe both
    I currently try completing it without sigils and no deaths, 499 deaths and no sigil is the sad result so far.

    I died a foolish death against a crematorial guard and only because I didn't pay attention to Valkyn Skoria's skull up there for 1 moment (yes, I call him Valkyn Skoria because his true name is only a cheap copy)
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  • obscure7
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    Grats!

    *eagerly awaiting the video*
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  • StevK44_ESO
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    That's awesome Alcast! You're making me want to get back in there and practice up again. Think we'll be seeing your stamplar get a no death any time soon?
  • Alcast
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    That's awesome Alcast! You're making me want to get back in there and practice up again. Think we'll be seeing your stamplar get a no death any time soon?

    Stamplar is going to be very tricky...I might give it a try sooner or later tho.
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  • Alcast
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Alcast I'm waiting for you to upload the video already ;) Spamnmning F5 right now

    86c4a04b0da78b6f47cdecfefcee3128.png

    And then prolly 4h-10h processing lol

    Oh alright :( Will you keep it running over night ?
    obscure7 wrote: »
    Grats!

    *eagerly awaiting the video*

    Ok I got the video uploaded, however, it needs a few hours to get HD quality... so you prolly can watch it in HD in like 2-3h..here is the link.

    https://youtu.be/26Dc3xS9vnc
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  • Suru
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    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    World first stamina no death vMA? Unless sb puts veto I guess lol

    31b7cee7aacbc852a93474018dd79530.jpg

    I will upload run soon on youtube

    Nice dude congrats.

    Reckon you could do this on a magicka templar?

    Do you find rounds 3 and 6 easier after this week's nerfs to them? Particularly the stranglers,

    Thx, well I do not have a Magplar yet and I do not have Magicka Gear because those things are stupidly expensive bc of mats etc.....
    However, It is possible, @Nifty2g got close to a nodeath run iirc. It is possible on all classes, but it is definitely not easy on all the classes and different setups.

    Round 3 is better now, finally the broken pull mechanic removed which results in a lot less unnecessary deaths.
    (they could have fixed it too but I guess they did not find out how so they just replaced the skill of strangler)
    Round 6 I dunno if it got nerfed? It felt the same as usual. Usually I have no issues there unless shrines do not light up


    Round 3 has caused me many many many deaths, usually I'm doing fine, see a stranger spawn and before I can close the gap it's rubber banded me and caused me to get stuck in the insta gib water.

    Round 6 had a few changes I heard, need to reread patch notes.

    You think it would be easier on magiplar? Due to more self healing/sustain? Especially from sweeps.

    Also do you think this could be done on a vampire due to round 9 fire damage? If you put all first CP into fire damage reduction?

    Well yes it is easier on magplar, stamplar atm is the WORST choice of all setups actually. Like worst of the worst of the worst. BC ZOS likes nerfing Templars :(

    Well ye you just maybe need Ward to be safe I guess.

    The dps isnt the best but can still be competitive, its just the kit that has a couple issues more predominantly in vma although essakh has 430k score as stamplar so anything is possible.

    Gratz for real this time :wink:


    Suru
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