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  • Idinuse
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Thanks for nerfing templars again, you know 2 nerfs in just under a month is really what was needed.

    Just delete the damn class already, it's clear you want to

    It's probably been up for discussion several times by the devs but then they realise they need the class so their NB builds have something to lol face roll.

    Edit* Where is that SHAME (TM) meme?
    Edited by Idinuse on November 30, 2015 6:05PM
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  • usmcjdking
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    TBH I was expecting another Eclipse nerf in this patch.
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  • zornyan
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    TBH I was expecting another Eclipse nerf in this patch.

    Next patch notes already here!

    "Hi folks we've realised templars aren't working as intended so we've made some adjustments"

    Removed the self heal from puncturing sweeps

    Decreased the 140% damage buff to 80%

    Removed the 6% weapon damage buff from final passive

    Increased the costs of of skills that are non healing

    Given templars their very own cp cap of 200, all points are only allowed to be allocated into healing increases.

    Eclipse duration lowered, cost increased.

    Toppling Charge now has a range of 4 meters and a 5 sec GCD

    And our favourite one?

    Everytime you do damage as a templar you now take damage as well, since templars are supposed to be healers you will now be penalized for not healing.
  • Nikkor
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    forgive me for taking the constructive detour with this thread.

    If anyone on PC (I am on ps4 and might get this patch in 2 weeks or more likely a month now) tries maelstrom after this update and cares to report on rounds 3 and 7 I'd really appreciate knowing if the changes help. Currently on the ps4 round 3 is undoable for my lowly 321 ch pt dark elf magica night blade.
  • nine9six
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    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    Would rather ZOS just come out in the clear and say "We don't want you do play a Templar if you intend to do *anything* other than Heal."
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Moonshadow66
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    So Rapid Maneuver STILL affects EVERYONE, grouped or not grouped, in our outside of Cyrodiil? That's... craptastic. You were at it already, why couldn't you just do that one thing more??
    Also, the Steed movement bug was not fixed, nor were the Provisioning writs in Belkarth which don't work anymore since Orsinium, nor the crafting stations which keep switching the item levels randomly which cost me a fortune when I didn't see it. The latter issue is present since about 6 months or something, but now with these horrible expensive mats, it's not funny anymore at all!!!!

    Why exactly am I still sending bug reports over and over and over and over and over?? That's just a waste of time, you only keep "fixing" issues which have never been issues!


    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Moonshadow66
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    nine9six wrote: »
    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    Would rather ZOS just come out in the clear and say "We don't want you do play a Templar if you intend to do *anything* other than Heal."

    You mean, "anything other than standing around and RP"...
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • nine9six
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    nine9six wrote: »
    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    Would rather ZOS just come out in the clear and say "We don't want you do play a Templar if you intend to do *anything* other than Heal."

    You mean, "anything other than standing around and RP"...

    What if I want to Role Play as a DPS?
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  • Joy_Division
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    zornyan wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    TBH I was expecting another Eclipse nerf in this patch.

    Next patch notes already here!

    "Hi folks we've realised templars aren't working as intended so we've made some adjustments"

    Removed the self heal from puncturing sweeps

    Decreased the 140% damage buff to 80%

    Removed the 6% weapon damage buff from final passive

    Increased the costs of of skills that are non healing

    Given templars their very own cp cap of 200, all points are only allowed to be allocated into healing increases.

    Eclipse duration lowered, cost increased.

    Toppling Charge now has a range of 4 meters and a 5 sec GCD

    And our favourite one?

    Everytime you do damage as a templar you now take damage as well, since templars are supposed to be healers you will now be penalized for not healing.

    LOL :smiley:
  • zornyan
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    So Rapid Maneuver STILL affects EVERYONE, grouped or not grouped, in our outside of Cyrodiil? That's... craptastic. You were at it already, why couldn't you just do that one thing more??
    Also, the Steed movement bug was not fixed, nor were the Provisioning writs in Belkarth which don't work anymore since Orsinium, nor the crafting stations which keep switching the item levels randomly which cost me a fortune when I didn't see it. The latter issue is present since about 6 months or something, but now with these horrible expensive mats, it's not funny anymore at all!!!!

    Why exactly am I still sending bug reports over and over and over and over and over?? That's just a waste of time, you only keep "fixing" issues which have never been issues!



    Obviously templars OP dps was higher up on the priority list, probably got another 6 months on them focusing on nerfing us.
  • Moonshadow66
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    nine9six wrote: »
    nine9six wrote: »
    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    Would rather ZOS just come out in the clear and say "We don't want you do play a Templar if you intend to do *anything* other than Heal."

    You mean, "anything other than standing around and RP"...

    What if I want to Role Play as a DPS?

    For this we would have to roll a Sorcerer, I'm afraid^^
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • nine9six
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    nine9six wrote: »
    nine9six wrote: »
    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    Would rather ZOS just come out in the clear and say "We don't want you do play a Templar if you intend to do *anything* other than Heal."

    You mean, "anything other than standing around and RP"...

    What if I want to Role Play as a DPS?

    For this we would have to roll a Sorcerer, I'm afraid^^

    Ohhh!! Got'cha!
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Moonshadow66
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    zornyan wrote: »
    So Rapid Maneuver STILL affects EVERYONE, grouped or not grouped, in our outside of Cyrodiil? That's... craptastic. You were at it already, why couldn't you just do that one thing more??
    Also, the Steed movement bug was not fixed, nor were the Provisioning writs in Belkarth which don't work anymore since Orsinium, nor the crafting stations which keep switching the item levels randomly which cost me a fortune when I didn't see it. The latter issue is present since about 6 months or something, but now with these horrible expensive mats, it's not funny anymore at all!!!!

    Why exactly am I still sending bug reports over and over and over and over and over?? That's just a waste of time, you only keep "fixing" issues which have never been issues!



    Obviously templars OP dps was higher up on the priority list, probably got another 6 months on them focusing on nerfing us.

    I have 2 Templars myself, that's great news. /sarcasm
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Idinuse
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    Fix to all Templar skills, they were doing damage, which was never intended
    zornyan wrote: »
    So Rapid Maneuver STILL affects EVERYONE, grouped or not grouped, in our outside of Cyrodiil? That's... craptastic. You were at it already, why couldn't you just do that one thing more??
    Also, the Steed movement bug was not fixed, nor were the Provisioning writs in Belkarth which don't work anymore since Orsinium, nor the crafting stations which keep switching the item levels randomly which cost me a fortune when I didn't see it. The latter issue is present since about 6 months or something, but now with these horrible expensive mats, it's not funny anymore at all!!!!

    Why exactly am I still sending bug reports over and over and over and over and over?? That's just a waste of time, you only keep "fixing" issues which have never been issues!



    Obviously templars OP dps was higher up on the priority list, probably got another 6 months on them focusing on nerfing us.
    It's disgraceful, in fact the developers take disgrace to a new level.
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  • AngryNord
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    Great... Guess it's time to focus on LoTRO and Rift instead...
  • zornyan
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    I laugh when I shouldn't, I can't play sorc or NB as I just don't like the playstyle, dks I thought I would like but basically just spam wrecking blow.

    Templars are MY class, I love them, but every time a set of patch notes goes up, I'm genuinely saddened by the next round of nerfs. It just gets harder and harder to play
  • Altairien
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    Miscellaneous
    General
    • Fixed an issue where your game could crash upon logging in.
    Hilarious @ZOS_GinaBruno! For the first time ever, I crashed upon logging in this evening.

    Are you sure that shouldn't read "Created a new issue where your game could crash upon logging in"? :D
  • PBpsy
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    Templar nurf
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Do you excpect ANY fixes at all? I do not.

    Of course we don't. LoL What kind of DUM question is that?
    We are expecting nurfs.

    Man I love to hate that I am always right.
    Edited by PBpsy on December 1, 2015 2:21AM
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  • BRogueNZ
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    Did they forget they lowered the frequency of the spear DoT?

    *shakes head*

    Radiant aura.. hmm yes.. thats what causing all of cryodils problems..I guess our heals will only heal those in our group next, just to stop these solo savior's ruining everyone's pug farms

    Edited by BRogueNZ on December 1, 2015 3:36AM
  • Cogo
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    How is fixing a bug, "a nerf"?

    This comment reminds me of Summer 2014, when DKs whined when the bash bug got fixed so we couldn't one shot anyone with a simple Bash anymore.
    Edited by Cogo on December 1, 2015 3:39AM
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  • Farorin
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    What the hell? Blazing Spear was already weak as it was, and if anything, it is one of those moves in need of a buff. Why the nerf?
  • Nifty2g
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    How is fixing a bug, "a nerf"?

    This comment reminds me of Summer 2014, when DKs whined when the bash bug got fixed so we couldn't one shot anyone with a simple Bash anymore.
    a bug...?
    Steel Tornado is out of control so is fire ring in pve but lets nerf the weakest AoE out of the 3? In it's "bugged" state it was still incredibly weaker.
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  • Cogo
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    How is fixing a bug, "a nerf"?

    This comment reminds me of Summer 2014, when DKs whined when the bash bug got fixed so we couldn't one shot anyone with a simple Bash anymore.
    a bug...?
    Steel Tornado is out of control so is fire ring in pve but lets nerf the weakest AoE out of the 3? In it's "bugged" state it was still incredibly weaker.

    Steel Tornado is one of the weakest AE. It does 0 damage when your target simply moves out of the way.

    The bug fix is not my words. ESO Live last episode. Yell at ZoS, not me!
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  • Lylith
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    "Blazing Spear: Decreased the damage values, which were previously higher than intended."

    I can assure you the Blazing Spear was most certainly not doing more damage than intended.

    wow.

    another templar nerf.

    imagine that...



  • usmcjdking
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    How is fixing a bug, "a nerf"?

    This comment reminds me of Summer 2014, when DKs whined when the bash bug got fixed so we couldn't one shot anyone with a simple Bash anymore.
    a bug...?
    Steel Tornado is out of control so is fire ring in pve but lets nerf the weakest AoE out of the 3? In it's "bugged" state it was still incredibly weaker.

    Steel Tornado is one of the weakest AE. It does 0 damage when your target simply moves out of the way.

    The bug fix is not my words. ESO Live last episode. Yell at ZoS, not me!

    Yeah, let me move out of the way of that 12m radius.
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  • Farorin
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Cogo wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    STOP NERFING TEMPLARS

    How is fixing a bug, "a nerf"?

    This comment reminds me of Summer 2014, when DKs whined when the bash bug got fixed so we couldn't one shot anyone with a simple Bash anymore.
    a bug...?
    Steel Tornado is out of control so is fire ring in pve but lets nerf the weakest AoE out of the 3? In it's "bugged" state it was still incredibly weaker.

    Steel Tornado is one of the weakest AE. It does 0 damage when your target simply moves out of the way.

    The bug fix is not my words. ESO Live last episode. Yell at ZoS, not me!

    To be fair, every aoe does 0 damage if you move about of the way before it hits you.
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    nine9six wrote: »

    What if I want to Role Play as a DPS?

    You could go to a starter zone and pick on lone wolves. Try not to aggro too much, you might not be able to burst them down in time.
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