Rng + rng = rng?

Vangy

Hey all,

So after doing every single daily on 2 toons since orsinium started I've made some very troubling discoveries. I'm gona make this short and simple to read.
So far I've had 22*7*2 tries on dailies which makes 308 attempts as of today.

1) roughly 60% of drops are Decon fodder.
Decon fodder = v15 sets + random junk
2) around 20% are trinimacs
3)15% pariahs
4) 5% briar

Yes out of 308 tries only around 15 briar pieces. Out of which only 1 was infused pants and 1 divines gloves and 1 robust ring. Rest were reinforced, arcane, well fitted junk. So we have (3/308)* 100 = .97% usable pieces for briar out of 308.

Now maybe I have bad rng or my sample size isn't big enough but come on... 308 is a reasonable number. I have found a full set of pariah and trinimacs with perfect rolls. I noticed the same trend with bloody claw drops and ring of agility drops in IC. Why are stamina drops so weighted against?

Also gear seems to be weighted towards reinforced and well fitted. I can't be sure of the exact percentages yet but I will continue doing dailies for the next month or so and will update later with more comprehensive numbers. Also good luck casuals who can only do 3 dailies a day. Your going to take a year to find briars and by then new dlc will be out and the grind restarts lol.

KewaG

Those are not very encouraging numbers...like at all.

Vangy

KewaG wrote: »

Those are not very encouraging numbers...like at all.

Tell me about it. I'm just hoping I've been having really really bad luck and someone out there can reassure me that it's equally likely to find briars as compared to trinimacs or pariahs. So far most of my guildies agree with briar drops being unreasonably rare....

ThatNeonZebraAgain

Making all the Orsinium sets BoP...

Not removing worthless traits from drop pool...

How many other mistakes are there?

Colosso-monstro

Lol THESE DEVS ARE AWESOME! 10/10 WOULD HIRE

Vangy

Colosso-monstro wrote: »

Lol THESE DEVS ARE AWESOME! 10/10 WOULD HIRE

I can't help but think these rates aren't intentional. Maybe something somewhere got coded wrong. Right? I mean I can't bring myself to believe that they would gate our new shiny toys ( one of the biggest reasons to get orsinium) behind these layers of insane rng? Also bop just makes things that much worse. They need to boost drop rates or make things BoE. To me getting a full set of what you want in 100 or so tries is legit. I have 300+ with no luck. That is crazy and can't be possibly intended.

Johngo0036

RNG sucks,

I have done the dailies(daily delve and world boss) on 2 toons for 7 days and have the following,

7 *2*2 = 28 runs,

10 pieces Briar - 4 VR16(incl 1 Ring) the rest VR15
5 pieces Pariah - 2 VR16..

Ninnghizhidda

Perhaps the funniest part of this sad situation is all the dismissive comments about "Korean grinders" (and not only), and how ESO would be so very different and superior. Right.

Now taking RNGesus worship to the next level. And yes, those "grinders" mentioned can be bad indeed, but how many years does ESO need to get its act together?

Sausage

Well, those new sets are meant to keep us going until Thief DLC, could be February or even early March. Whats the point if we get them in 1 week, then people start to whine when next DLC comes. I keep hoping Housing brings some massive progression and reward system, so this kind of stuff doesnt need to happen.

CP and gear should be easy and short progression. Housing long term goal. Also Monster Sets should be long term goal. But who knows, Zen doesnt like to make up their mind, so things change.

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO

The random useless loot "needs" to go. It would be far better if they had a token system plus gold and an additional random set item. I am thinking along the lines of gold version rings / pendants.

Crafters should be able to alter any trait at any time.
Crafting surveys should have a guaranteed survey map drop.

hamburgerler76

yea I have 3 vr toons I do 6 pledges a day along with 6 daily's a day and that's if im not with a group sharing daily's and have since orsinium drop I have not gotten a single helm drop since and my daily's are 90% crap I cant use or bad traits I need to be able to sell this crap and buy what I need or a rng fix this is bad

Johngo0036

The token system sounds great and is great,

However people tend to farm for just the stuff they want and then leave,

I mean look at IC,
First month it was chaos in there,
now it is almost dead..

MrDerrikk

Johngo0036 wrote: »

The token system sounds great and is great,

However people tend to farm for just the stuff they want and then leave,

I mean look at IC,
First month it was chaos in there,
now it is almost dead..

Hence the need for achievements, titles, costumes, pets, mounts etc. Things that do not hamper your playing in a specs way, but are still wanted by most of the population.

oibam

If ZOS thinks, I gonna do 1k Monster Dailies to grind a V16 Briarheart set with noncrap traits....haha. Get rid of Orsinium. Bad DLC.

Sausage

Johngo0036 wrote: »

The token system sounds great and is great,

However people tend to farm for just the stuff they want and then leave,

I mean look at IC,
First month it was chaos in there,
now it is almost dead..

IC is dead because there isnt nothing else to do, I think Gankers got most TVs and are now selling new mats to whole player base, at least that was my story, I still have tons of TVs to burn and sell as mats.

Thats why I think TVs should be used to buy house-extensions when Housing comes, so people would do IC again.

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO

IC died because they mashed PvP and PvE together. PvEers don't give a *** about PvP. They are completely different ideologies. What PvEer wants to go in, get ganked and lose most of their invested time. Get real. That sort of gameplay is for a very small minority. It was inevitable the PvEers would be departing in droves as soon as they suffered through that gear grind.

sadownik

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »

IC died because they mashed PvP and PvE together. PvEers don't give a *** about PvP. They are completely different ideologies. What PvEer wants to go in, get ganked and lose most of their invested time. Get real. That sort of gameplay is for a very small minority. It was inevitable the PvEers would be departing in droves as soon as they suffered through that gear grind.

What makes it worse, many pvpers see IC as total faliure - its not connected to campaign in anyway, there are no objectives, just gang style conflict.

Malmai

Stack dat RNG !

Vangy

Pop quiz

[rng^(rng)+rng]*[rng+1/(rng*rng)] = ?

Show calculation steps and final answer for 10 points. Partial answers will still be awarded partial marks.

Vangy

Rng in this game is over 9000 so we may approximate this to rng = 9000. Therefore first term (rng^rng+rng) approximates to 9000^9000+9000 which then can be taken to equal infinity. The second expression simplifies to 9000. Therefore the correct answer for 10 points issssss infinity!