ZOS - its time to fix the group finder again

Myyth

This image was taken about 3:30PM EST time so not at peak hours but not in the middle of the night either.
Yes, I was queued as dps so I do not expect fast queues, but over an hour is too long even for dps.
And this is not the first time this has happened, I can post several more screenshots of 1hour+ wait times from over the past week.

The first fix only lasted about a week of fast queues before wait times started to increase again.
It looks like its time for another fix for the group finder!
I have no idea what you can do this time ZOS but I hope you can figure something out.

altemriel

agreed! for non-vet groups it takes ages to find someone, usually no result!!

NewBlacksmurf

To be honest, if after 15 minutes nothing populates, you should stop the queue.
relog and start the queue again.....I've not had a queue over 15 minutes on PC or XBox One since these changes went public during normal EST hours of 12 noon - 9pm

You're under any dungeon...

Myyth

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You're under any dungeon...

Isnt that what it should be? If I was to select a dungeon I think it would even take longer.
"any dungeon" means to me that im willing to join any queue which should be faster yes?

NewBlacksmurf

Myyth wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You're under any dungeon...

Isnt that what it should be? If I was to select a dungeon I think it would even take longer.
"any dungeon" means to me that im willing to join any queue which should be faster yes?

Yes, you're not wrong. I'm suggesting that because you're under any it shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes based on my past experiences. Maybe PC has died down but I've not had any issues getting a group but I'm normally on Xbox One.

Myyth

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Myyth wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You're under any dungeon...

Isnt that what it should be? If I was to select a dungeon I think it would even take longer.
"any dungeon" means to me that im willing to join any queue which should be faster yes?

Yes, you're not wrong. I'm suggesting that because you're under any it shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes based on my past experiences. Maybe PC has died down but I've not had any issues getting a group but I'm normally on Xbox One.

No, I think "Any Dungeon" is the correct setting and is what ive used all this time.
The only other option is to select a particular dungeon, which means that you are limiting your group pool to just the queue for that dungeon, but if you select "any" you have a much larger pool of players and cover all dungeons.

I also tried quitting and and queueing up again, but same result.


Thats interesting that xbox is still getting fast queues, but PC has slowed down back to the way it used to be before the fix.

Miszou

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people think it's "bugged" because they always end up in a V16 dungeon when they use it...

Yattaq

An hour queue time for DPS actually isn't super abnormal. I've seen longer in other MMOs with more players using the tool. When the overwhelming majority of players are DPS, this becomes expected. There could be hundreds of DPS ahead of you, so anytime a healer and tank queue up, you're only moving two spots forward in a hundred spot line.

WoW tried solving this problem by giving a bonus to roles that were in high demand. It helped but dps still have pretty significant queue times.

Jura23

Yattaq wrote: »

An hour queue time for DPS actually isn't super abnormal. I've seen longer in other MMOs with more players using the tool. When the overwhelming majority of players are DPS, this becomes expected. There could be hundreds of DPS ahead of you, so anytime a healer and tank queue up, you're only moving two spots forward in a hundred spot line.

WoW tried solving this problem by giving a bonus to roles that were in high demand. It helped but dps still have pretty significant queue times.

Yep. I used to play DPS in another major MMO and it took about an hour most times to find a group. Tanks were getting instant groups. Now I play tank in ESO and I'm getting instant groups as well.

Myyth

Yattaq wrote: »

An hour queue time for DPS actually isn't super abnormal. I've seen longer in other MMOs with more players using the tool. When the overwhelming majority of players are DPS, this becomes expected. There could be hundreds of DPS ahead of you, so anytime a healer and tank queue up, you're only moving two spots forward in a hundred spot line.

WoW tried solving this problem by giving a bonus to roles that were in high demand. It helped but dps still have pretty significant queue times.

I agree that DPS times are always longer.
But ZoS made a point to advertise and promote as part of the features of Orininium that they "fixed" the group finder which shows that ZoS doesnt want their group finder to be like every other MMO out there.
And the fix did work for a short while but we are back to the way it was now.

If ZoS wants to advertise its group finder as fixed then they will have to try again.

Anzriel

Fix again? I think most people would be happy if it got fixed in the first place.

That being said it is a little sad that it's still so mediocre this long after launch, I honestly don't know many who even bother with it anymore. Although that could be part of the problem.

Thralgaf

Im getting groups fast. Problem is snotty players kicking my non vet toons. Funny part is my level 15 NB has more health (25k) than most v16 scrubs that boot me.

Artjuh90

before orsinium i had ques over 5 hours to the point as tank that i didn't even knew that i was still in que.
eso is build in every way to be a dps. being a healer or tank (especially tank) is not rewarding at all. dungeon exp is crap. dps can do the quest faster just because they have higher damage output with little to no risk.
in PvP being a tank is even less rewarding then in PvE, healers are more usefull but then again they got nerfed hard aswell. which i get but rather would have seen smart healing then just a 50 % decrease of effectiveness. then again ZOS almost always goes for the easy fix over the right fix.
so im not surprised that you have to w8 1 hour

NewBlacksmurf

Myyth wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Myyth wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You're under any dungeon...

Isnt that what it should be? If I was to select a dungeon I think it would even take longer.
"any dungeon" means to me that im willing to join any queue which should be faster yes?

Yes, you're not wrong. I'm suggesting that because you're under any it shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes based on my past experiences. Maybe PC has died down but I've not had any issues getting a group but I'm normally on Xbox One.

No, I think "Any Dungeon" is the correct setting and is what ive used all this time.
The only other option is to select a particular dungeon, which means that you are limiting your group pool to just the queue for that dungeon, but if you select "any" you have a much larger pool of players and cover all dungeons.

I also tried quitting and and queueing up again, but same result.


Thats interesting that xbox is still getting fast queues, but PC has slowed down back to the way it used to be before the fix.

The big difference on xbox is that ppl use the systems and don't try to use things like text chat to avoid using these systems.

I'd bet a lot of ppl are using guild chat and text zone chat to group which drastically will reduce the amount of ppl in queue.
Some others see posts like this and share that the tool doesn't work and encourage others not to use the tool as well.

In the end...while it may be a ZOS issue, a lot of this is lack us available users from the sounds of it.

Artjuh90

@NewBlacksmurf im on console like you know (cause the text chat business) and i had this problem aswell. it doesn't work because the things i mentioned in the post above

and yes i still believe consoles need text chat :P

UltimaJoe777

Anzriel wrote: »

Fix again? I think most people would be happy if it got fixed in the first place.

That being said it is a little sad that it's still so mediocre this long after launch, I honestly don't know many who even bother with it anymore. Although that could be part of the problem.

It can get all the revamps in the world and be totally useless if no one uses it, so yes the problem OP is facing here is simply bad timing or bad luck.

NewBlacksmurf

If you promote it (we and not ZOS) then it becomes widely used and more feedback will appear on the forums as well as tickets.

There have been a lot of changes and as of current this tool is in its best state outside of the first 60 days of PC launch for all platforms

Xjcon

Could be waiting days if tanks and healers don't want to join the que. It's just too easy to join a group through guild or zone chat.