ORC Classes

ArchGrizzlyOp

Hey guys i wanted your opinion on which class is best for ORC's.

Thank you

LBxFinalDeath

DragonKnight

Without any stats involved when I think of an Orc as any of those classes its 100% Dragonknight.

Whats best? Nightblade prolly.

Im gonna vote DK anyway.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

DragonKnight

I play a Stamina Dk with orc as race and its pretty cool especially in pvp because of the extra sprint speed is good for the lack of mobility dks have. But I think Orc is a very good race for every melee build no matter what class

ArchGrizzlyOp

DragonKnight

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Without any stats involved when I think of an Orc as any of those classes its 100% Dragonknight.

Whats best? Nightblade prolly.

Im gonna vote DK anyway.

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

I play a Stamina Dk with orc as race and its pretty cool especially in pvp because of the extra sprint speed is good for the lack of mobility dks have. But I think Orc is a very good race for every melee build no matter what class

Both points are very interesting, its making me want to make another DK now. lol

AngryNord

Templar

I say Templar in full heavy armour, just for the hell of it :P

Lenikus

Sorc

....Hehehehehe

ArchGrizzlyOp

DragonKnight

Lenikus wrote: »

....Hehehehehe

MooHahahah

dRudE

DragonKnight

A stam 2h-S&B orc dragon knight for pvp. Needs a little work on recovery but the burst is great.

PBpsy

Sorc

S-orc. Duh.

Daraugh

DragonKnight

D-orc Seriously though, for smashyface play, it's gotta be a dk.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

DragonKnight

dRudE wrote: »

A stam 2h-S&B orc dragon knight for pvp. Needs a little work on recovery but the burst is great.

Thats what im running. For my armor I have 3 endurance, 5mordulkin 2 bloodspawn and 2 agility combined with drinks and ww ult on my s&b bar my regen is at 2.2k without potion buffs while still being at 3k+ weapon damage with rally up.

Pierce armor spam is real!

dsalter

Nightblade

Orcs look badass as dragon knights but in truth they benifit most from Sorcerer or NB most due to being the best of the classes anyways, templar and dk really... well they need a buff

lolo_01b16_ESO

Templar

What's special about orcs is their passive to get 4% increased damage to melee attacks. If you compare that to other races with bonuses that help with stamina dps (e.g. redguard or Imperial), you can see that the more weapon damage you have compared to your stamina, the better orcs become.
As Templars are the only class, that has a bonus for weapon damage, but not for stamina, they benefit the most from the orc passive.

But I personally wouldn't choose my class based on some theorycrafting. If you are not happy with the animations of your class skills, you probably won't care about a slight advantage you have over other players.

acw37162

Anything really the extra sprint speed really helps on Dragon Knights and Templars but the damage bonus means in a min max setting Orc will always hit the hardest.

dday3six

Sorc

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Templar

dday3six wrote: »

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

"Stam sorc... not crit focused." - Did I miss something and Crit surge is a DK skill now? I always thought sorcs would be the class that heals on crits and therefore benefits the most from being Khajiit.

dday3six

Sorc

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

"Stam sorc... not crit focused." - Did I miss something and Crit surge is a DK skill now? I always thought sorcs would be the class that heals on crits and therefore benefits the most from being Khajiit.

Sorc at the moment doesn't have as many skills or passives that support a crit focused stamina build. It doesn't mean that crit focus isn't meaningful. It means that crit is not as meanful as it would be on a NB or DK. NB has a lot of passives supporting crit builds, and because DK is a mix of flame and phyiscal damage they can dump more points in Precise Strikes.

Also for healing, Vigor and Rally are generally better than Critical Surge for a stam sorc. Situations were crit surge is preferred are in vMSA on a magicka sorc, mostly because of Hardened Ward acts as a buffer. Stamina builds have a greater need of more reliable heals in those scenarios.

Calboy

DragonKnight

dday3six wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

"Stam sorc... not crit focused." - Did I miss something and Crit surge is a DK skill now? I always thought sorcs would be the class that heals on crits and therefore benefits the most from being Khajiit.

Sorc at the moment doesn't have as many skills or passives that support a crit focused stamina build. It doesn't mean that crit focus isn't meaningful. It means that crit is not as meanful as it would be on a NB or DK. NB has a lot of passives supporting crit builds, and because DK is a mix of flame and phyiscal damage they can dump more points in Precise Strikes.

Also for healing, Vigor and Rally are generally better than Critical Surge for a stam sorc. Situations were crit surge is preferred are in vMSA on a magicka sorc, mostly because of Hardened Ward acts as a buffer. Stamina builds have a greater need of more reliable heals in those scenarios.

If building a 2h stam sorc unimaginative cookie cutter build then yes, otherwise crit is one of the most important stats for a stam sorc.

Korah_Eaglecry

DragonKnight

ArchGrizzlyOp wrote: »

Hey guys i wanted your opinion on which class is best for ORC's.

Thank you

If we're going off of racial passives. DK.

But theres nothing really 'best' about any of the classes in the sense that whatever you get out of choosing your class based on your race and your race based on your class. It wont be that much.

MrDerrikk

DragonKnight

Always Dragonknight, it doesn't matter what race.

dday3six

Sorc

Calboy wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

"Stam sorc... not crit focused." - Did I miss something and Crit surge is a DK skill now? I always thought sorcs would be the class that heals on crits and therefore benefits the most from being Khajiit.

Sorc at the moment doesn't have as many skills or passives that support a crit focused stamina build. It doesn't mean that crit focus isn't meaningful. It means that crit is not as meanful as it would be on a NB or DK. NB has a lot of passives supporting crit builds, and because DK is a mix of flame and phyiscal damage they can dump more points in Precise Strikes.

Also for healing, Vigor and Rally are generally better than Critical Surge for a stam sorc. Situations were crit surge is preferred are in vMSA on a magicka sorc, mostly because of Hardened Ward acts as a buffer. Stamina builds have a greater need of more reliable heals in those scenarios.

If building a 2h stam sorc unimaginative cookie cutter build then yes, otherwise crit is one of the most important stats for a stam sorc.

Be great to get a bit more info. This only expresses that you disagree, but doesn't give much in the way of detailing why.

Artjuh90

DragonKnight

NB tank is probably the best build / racset it can be.
but couldn't leave my orc DK hanging

PhatGrimReaper

DragonKnight

It doesn't matter what class you choose. so long as you are an Orc, you Win by default!!!

Calboy

DragonKnight

@dday3six
To take advantage of crit surge when rally isn't available. Even if I'm running a build that has access to rally I still like to use surge, even if it might be less effective, because it offers a unique play style only stam sorcs can achieve. For the record I'm a Khajiit stam sorc running double bow and an offensive play style with crit surge is critical for my survival.

MrDerrikk

DragonKnight

Calboy wrote: »

To take advantage of crit surge when rally isn't available. Even if I'm running a build that has access to rally I still like to use surge, even if it might be less effective, because it offers a unique play style only stam sorcs can achieve. For the record I'm a Khajiit stam sorc running double bow and an offensive play style with crit surge is critical for my survival.

I absolutely love Surge and its morphs, it's the one skill I'd love to take for any other class.

dday3six

Sorc

Calboy wrote: »

@dday3six
To take advantage of crit surge when rally isn't available. Even if I'm running a build that has access to rally I still like to use surge, even if it might be less effective, because it offers a unique play style only stam sorcs can achieve. For the record I'm a Khajiit stam sorc running double bow and an offensive play style with crit surge is critical for my survival.

Ok, well that might get you personal satisfaction but uniqueness doesn't auto-translate to viability. By all means play how you enjoy. However the reality is that build is for fun, but not optimal.

TheShadowScout

AngryNord wrote: »

I say Templar in full heavy armour, just for the hell of it :P

That's -just- what I did with my Orc craftsmistress... works for me!

In the end, fu... uhm... forget what is "best" play what -you- have fun playing!

Shadesofkin

DragonKnight

Dragonknights.

Dragonknights for everyone!!!!!

Septimus_Magna

Sorc

dday3six wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Stam Sorc. They are not as crit focused as the others for Stamina. The extra sprint speed stacks with Lightning Form and it's morphs. And the melee bonus is always a plus.

"Stam sorc... not crit focused." - Did I miss something and Crit surge is a DK skill now? I always thought sorcs would be the class that heals on crits and therefore benefits the most from being Khajiit.

Sorc at the moment doesn't have as many skills or passives that support a crit focused stamina build. It doesn't mean that crit focus isn't meaningful. It means that crit is not as meanful as it would be on a NB or DK. NB has a lot of passives supporting crit builds, and because DK is a mix of flame and phyiscal damage they can dump more points in Precise Strikes.

Also for healing, Vigor and Rally are generally better than Critical Surge for a stam sorc. Situations were crit surge is preferred are in vMSA on a magicka sorc, mostly because of Hardened Ward acts as a buffer. Stamina builds have a greater need of more reliable heals in those scenarios.

If building a 2h stam sorc unimaginative cookie cutter build then yes, otherwise crit is one of the most important stats for a stam sorc.

Be great to get a bit more info. This only expresses that you disagree, but doesn't give much in the way of detailing why.

Crit is important for stam sorcs but relative very easy to get with the Thief mundus.

Effective setup for 2H stam sorc:
5x TBS (Thief and Shadow mundus)
3x Agility jewelry
2x Molag Kena (or 1x Molag Kena and 1x Blood Spawn)
1x Maelstrom sharpened 2H

Mettaricana

Sorc

Stam sorc orc a s-orc is very fun that extra wep dmg added to sorc wep dmg is like wearing 5 pc medium 12% weapon dmg twice over combo with dawn breaker 8% crit surge and the bonis stam and health equates to death.

12%+12%+8%+surge 20% muwahahahahahaaa toss on an armor ignore maul with sharpened and champion points for ignorr armor for like 50% armor pen and yeah laughing intensifies. .

Blud

I was JUST going to start this thread. I need to roll an Orc. Thanks OP!