Game is still very young.

briandivisionb16_ESO

I made a plethora of threads bashing certain systems and such but it doesn't mean I think ESO is doing terrible.
The game is only 18 months old. It is still very young.
And I think, perhaps hypocritically, that sometimes we can be a bit harsh. So I made this thread to say I am going to be a bit patient, and maybe suggest some patience is what we all need.

ESO launch date: April 2014
And all these threads say the game is dead. My friends, lets give it some time. Give it some time.

briandivisionb16_ESO

And yeah my sig makes this thread laughable. Will change it later. lol

Draxys

Concerning pvp, there is no hope for the vast majority of the player base. I know I can speak for many regular pvpers when I say that I'm only here because there's not a better option. Every patch makes the game worse. If that's not a dead or dying (pvp) game, I don't know what is.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Yes the game is young but they are professionals and should be able to do their jobs.

We all know coding is not easy and most of us don't work in that field cause we lack those skills.

It's not a matter of empathy if your car don't work would you say their are a new company it's okay they will learn how to build a fully working car? Would you buy an addition to your car of the last one don't work right or was useless, no you wouldn't.

Sausage

Its been painful road for sure, as they didnt had nothing thought what happens after you hit lvl 50. Ive said it before that its outrageous that 200mill game doesnt have even good endgame, I personally think they are paying high price because of it. Many things are still missing like good group-finder.

PBpsy

Nope. It is not. it is 2015. Everything is crazy fast...I mean everything. For a MMO 18 months to get its crap together is a lot of time. Of course most MMOs (I mean ALL) can't do it in 18 months but that is the way the market works.

Ultra-fast rush to failure is the name of the game for 99.5% of all projects.

Snowgoons

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

I made a plethora of threads bashing certain systems and such but it doesn't mean I think ESO is doing terrible.
The game is only 18 months old. It is still very young.
And I think, perhaps hypocritically, that sometimes we can be a bit harsh. So I made this thread to say I am going to be a bit patient, and maybe suggest some patience is what we all need.

ESO launch date: April 2014
And all these threads say the game is dead. My friends, lets give it some time. Give it some time.

Bottom line is, if they don't start actually listening to their players, and checking with people that pvp regularly and pve regularly before putting stuff out, this game is done.

They for some reason think because they code the game they know balance more than people that play the game like 10+ hours a day.

This will be the games downfall.

@ZOS start putting up some polls, seeing what people want, and giving it to them, start with what this guy has in his sig, and then add things like Champion points in non-vet campaigns, IF MAJORITY VOTES FOR SOMETHING ACTUALLY DO IT.

No one cares what you guys are trying to guess is a good move, not one person wants that. People want good actual ideas, and I'm not even saying mine are the best possible ideas, but EVERYONE can agree you guys have not done remotely anything close to what they actually wanted with this game.

@ZOS_MattFiror you worked on Dark Age of Camelot, possibly the best PvP mmo to come out in our lifetimes so far, why is this game not as good PvP as the RvR found in Dark Age of Camelot? What happened and what are you guys doing about it RIGHT NOW is what PvP players wanna know.

WhitePawPrints

Most games that fail stem from fatal flaws in their infancy.

nordsavage

At eighteen months you cannot call a game young. For most games you would have moved on or been playing/preparing to play a sequel. Many of this games flaws should have been addressed especially with a long beta. They keep trying to reinvent the game. Do not make excuses for the developers. ESO is most likely a fifth or quarter of the way through its life span. I am not saying it will not go longer but that is a reality of the situation.

altemriel

I agree!!!

PrinceBoru

All this armchair prognostication.
If you enjoy the game, play it.
The Elder Scrolls Online is not going anywhere.

UltimaJoe777

The fact that the game is young has nothing to do with what they have done so far. It's all about what's to come! With each new DLC release pros and cons arise, and going out of their way to do what people want or fix something another update might re-break would be counter productive to the game's growth.

Basically what OP meant is give this game a couple years to get all of its DLCs out of the way and it will be so much better than it is now!


P.S. The fact Zenimax does listen and do some things along the way is actually exceptional. It may not be what certain crowds want but it's far better than them not giving us anything at all based on sheer feedback.

Molag_Crow

True

kalimar44

This game is very young. Everquest is going on 16 years!! Now you tell me this game is not young.

Btw a lot of people were saying Everquest wouldn't last either,lol at them.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game is very young. Everquest is going on 16 years!! Now you tell me this game is not young.

Btw a lot of people were saying Everquest wouldn't last either,lol at them.

Really and did @ZoS have to make and "finish" the game before they knew where Ever Quest went wrong at the start?

You can learn from the games before you this game can still come back of the get it together.

I don't think anyone would be here if they don't want the game to succeed. I want them to be better I don't have to pretend to be nice about it.

Volkodav

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Yes the game is young but they are professionals and should be able to do their jobs.

We all know coding is not easy and most of us don't work in that field cause we lack those skills.

It's not a matter of empathy if your car don't work would you say their are a new company it's okay they will learn how to build a fully working car? Would you buy an addition to your car of the last one don't work right or was useless, no you wouldn't.

You know how much they are trying to work on at the moment? It doesnt all get done like POOF! This is a game,not a car.Tow totally different things.One will take your life if it doesnt work right.The other will just do nothing to your life.Other than frustrate you,and that isnt much.
Also,what happened to all the periods in your paragraph? It reads like one single run on sentence.
(sorry,I just had a hard time knowing when you were finished with each sentence.Makes it hard to read is all.)

Turelus

The game is still fun, which means many of us come back to play.

Sadly though to find that fun (the content be that PvP or PvE) we have to climb over the hurdles of bad game balance, mind numbing leveling systems and crippling lag.

sadownik

When this argument will get old? When the game will reach 10 years? Im telling you that 1,6 years its more than enough to give a game certain reputation. Right now, ESO had exactly 3 chances to appeal to the masses.

1. PC/Mac launch - well we all know how it went
2. "rebranding" and going b2p - after short period i dont see any drastic population increase
3. console launch - the fact that piles of ESO boxes lie in game shops returned by dissatisfied customers tells more than anything.

I dont see any more chances for Z. to swim to the high seas. In fact with IC fiasco and Orsinium which might be pretty but content wise adds only single player arena (in MMO game mind you) didnt make much of a difference. Population drops, which might explain sudden semi interest of devs in forums but certainly wont help the game much.

I myself struggle with leaving the game installed since the incentive to log in is gone.