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How much Magicka/Stamina recover do you atleast wanna have for PvP?

ZeFeZ
ZeFeZ
What do you think is normal recovery to have in PvP?
  • DannyLV702
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    I roll with no less than 2k recovery. It helps a LOT when taking on multiple players. My frags hit for only 10.4k unbuffed so I'm thinking of sacrificing a bit of recovery for more spell damage
  • Tryxus
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    Depends on the class
    "In the Storyteller's name, I stand upon the bones of the world. I drink in the promise and power of nature's law, and breathe out my thanks."
    Tryxus - Magicka Warden - PC/EU/DC
  • ZeFeZ
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I roll with no less than 2k recovery. It helps a LOT when taking on multiple players. My frags hit for only 10.4k unbuffed so I'm thinking of sacrificing a bit of recovery for more spell damage

    I switched my Magicka Recovery Mundus for the Spell Damage one.

    And Im at 2900 Spell Damage with 1650 Magicka Recovery now, wondering if that is enough recovery thought.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Just fight for a few hours and you'll have your answer. If you find yourself thinking "dammit oom again ffs" then you need more regen. I have 1900 regen and would like more but can't let my spell damage drop much more. It's at 2988 buffed and there are sorcs that hit me harder than I can hit them. I wear 2 pieces of heavy which means I lose out on ~100 regen. Cost reduction glyphs can reduce the amount of regen you need but I haven't played with them since 1.6.
    PC | EU

    Grand Master Crafter
  • Lexxypwns
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    Just fight for a few hours and you'll have your answer. If you find yourself thinking "dammit oom again ffs" then you need more regen. I have 1900 regen and would like more but can't let my spell damage drop much more. It's at 2988 buffed and there are sorcs that hit me harder than I can hit them. I wear 2 pieces of heavy which means I lose out on ~100 regen. Cost reduction glyphs can reduce the amount of regen you need but I haven't played with them since 1.6.

    ^so much this

    there's no magic number for magika recovery, just as long as you're not running out of resources you've got enough recovery and can play with getting more max mag or spell dam until you find a balance that suits your playstyle

    I run 2600 mag recovery on my magblade, which is a lot, but lets me get away with generous use of cloak and healing ward without me ever needing to heavy attack or pop a magika potion, which suites my play style just fine
  • Junkogen
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    Everyone is a Sorc.
  • ZeFeZ
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    Junkogen wrote: »
    Everyone is a Sorc.

    Templar! <3
  • Spearshard
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    I have about 900, really low compared to everyone else, but with siphon attacks, I only run low when I forget to refresh it. With the CP people put into magic resist I try to stack as much spell power as I can to keep up. With 35k magica (and I don't even have undaunted boost yet) I don't have many issues. Like they said, there is no magic number.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Junkogen wrote: »
    Everyone is a Sorc.

    There are at least 2 mageblades posting in this thread.
    PC | EU

    Grand Master Crafter
  • Tryxus
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    Junkogen wrote: »
    Everyone is a Sorc.

    There are at least 2 mageblades posting in this thread.

    Really? Where? o.o
    "In the Storyteller's name, I stand upon the bones of the world. I drink in the promise and power of nature's law, and breathe out my thanks."
    Tryxus - Magicka Warden - PC/EU/DC
  • akredon_ESO
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    when im on my templar i try for least 1500 stam regen And 2500 weapon damage unbuffed. ( with out rally)
    Edited by akredon_ESO on November 22, 2015 1:57AM
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Junkogen wrote: »
    Everyone is a Sorc.

    There are at least 2 mageblades posting in this thread.

    Really? Where? o.o

    Lexxypwns mentioned his mageblade, Spearshard mentioned siphoning attacks, and you have 2 mageblades in your sig, which is why I think you're joking.
    PC | EU

    Grand Master Crafter
  • Rylana
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    Your magicka recovery should be no less than 1/20th of your full magicka pool.

    You also are assumed to have maxed out cost reduction in champion tree and no where else. If you have more redux out of enchants or a set bonus, you can go lower.

    Its the formula ive used since I can remember.

    Ergo - if you have 32000 magicka, /20 = 1600 recovery.

    And so on.

    Once you hit that point, all-in to the damage of your choosing. in this case spell damage.


    Stam recovery should follow a similar rule, even if its your off-resource. Such as on a magicka sorc with say 14000 stamina, you should have close to 700 stam recovery if you can get there.


    My sorc currently runs 1950 recovery on a 39100 pool, with 3550 buffed spell damage. I also run 16400 stam with 670 recovery. (but points into roll dodge and block cost, just a few) This is about optimal for my personal playstyle (anything else feels off)


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  • Jura23
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Depends on the class

    And your playstyle. If somebody hides in a zerg, they dont need to worry about regen.
    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
  • ZeFeZ
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Your magicka recovery should be no less than 1/20th of your full magicka pool.

    You also are assumed to have maxed out cost reduction in champion tree and no where else. If you have more redux out of enchants or a set bonus, you can go lower.

    Its the formula ive used since I can remember.

    Ergo - if you have 32000 magicka, /20 = 1600 recovery.

    And so on.

    Once you hit that point, all-in to the damage of your choosing. in this case spell damage.


    Stam recovery should follow a similar rule, even if its your off-resource. Such as on a magicka sorc with say 14000 stamina, you should have close to 700 stam recovery if you can get there.


    My sorc currently runs 1950 recovery on a 39100 pool, with 3550 buffed spell damage. I also run 16400 stam with 670 recovery. (but points into roll dodge and block cost, just a few) This is about optimal for my personal playstyle (anything else feels off)


    So 1650 Recovery should be fine you think? with 2865 Spell damage?
  • zornyan
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    I think it's very subjective to class and playstyle, I've seem sorcs do vetmsa with 800 recovery, and I've PvPed with 900 recovery successfully before on my templar.

    But then my playstyle is rush in, hit hard and fast and kill them quick, so I don't need the recovery, the extra damage allows me to kill people very quickly.
  • Sausage
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    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.
  • gen_reynard2050
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    ahaaah-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489 38,000 magicka , 4K regen...
    "What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".
  • ZeFeZ
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    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina
  • zornyan
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    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too
  • ZeFeZ
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    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too

    Everything is Magicka enchanted,but don't got the Undaunted Pasives yet thought. How else can I improve my magicka?
  • Brrrofski
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    I like minimum of 1600 on my magics sorc. Then stack spell power.

    Magica templar, I go with 1800 recovery. I support the group a lot more with heals. I'm vamp and have an ability slotted on both bars, so don't sacrifice spell power really.

    Stam Dk I'm at 1600ish, bug use engine guardian so sustain isn't an issue. If not for that, I'd go higher due to roll dodging/break free.

    About to start a magica NB, so will see what's what with that
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  • OGLezard
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    Wow so many demands on what should be done. Everyone seems to be wearing the same damn gear ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ so much build diversity lolololololol this is why this game is driving me insane. Unless you follow everyone else for gear you are just crap out of luck
  • Uberkull
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    ahaaah-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489 38,000 magicka , 4K regen...

    Yeah....and 10k health. I love eating ur shields.

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  • zornyan
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    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too

    Everything is Magicka enchanted,but don't got the Undaunted Pasives yet thought. How else can I improve my magicka?

    Vr16 gold armor with gold enchants?
  • ZeFeZ
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    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too

    Everything is Magicka enchanted,but don't got the Undaunted Pasives yet thought. How else can I improve my magicka?

    Vr16 gold armor with gold enchants?

    Yea. :)
  • zornyan
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    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too

    Everything is Magicka enchanted,but don't got the Undaunted Pasives yet thought. How else can I improve my magicka?

    Vr16 gold armor with gold enchants?

    Yea. :)

    What armor sets? What race?

    My vr16 templar (3rd one) is currently using some vr15/vr14 gear and is imperial, he's currently at 35k magicka.

    You using food ?
  • Skinzz
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    I'm at about 3780-4100 weapon damage with 2150 Stam recovery but it's not really enough. I'm more comfortable with 2400 recovery.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • ZeFeZ
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    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    ZeFeZ wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    It depends on so many things, at least you could tell us what Class.

    I'm a Magicka Templar Veteran 16.

    2 Heavy Magnus all divines

    5 Light Juliano all Divines

    Duel Wield Magnus Nirnhoned/Disease

    Restoration Staff Nirnhoned Restore Magicka

    32k Magicka Pool, 24k Health, 10k Stamina

    Your magicka seems very low, mines at 42k now.

    Should be hitting around 3400-3500 spell power buffed too

    Everything is Magicka enchanted,but don't got the Undaunted Pasives yet thought. How else can I improve my magicka?

    Vr16 gold armor with gold enchants?

    Yea. :)

    What armor sets? What race?

    My vr16 templar (3rd one) is currently using some vr15/vr14 gear and is imperial, he's currently at 35k magicka.

    You using food ?

    Not using food, using the new recipe Increases Health and Magicka Recovery.
  • Jitterbug
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    I always aim for 2k regen and 20k health (with battle level) first, and then I worry about other stats. Which btw goes damage and then pool for me.
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