What class for me?
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seipher09
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I hope someone can maybe send me in the right direction here.
I'm coming from gw2 always maining guardian and then reveanant.
I'm all pve, mostly solo, don't like pvp.
I really like doing above normal damage, but gladly sacrifice max damage for survival.
I would love doing sword and board not as a tank but doing damage.
I also like the ability to self heal.
From what I've gathered a magicka templar might work pretty well for me?
If that is the case or not what class would you recommend and what skills would you recommend I used with the class to best suit what I am looking for?
Thank you to anyone who can provide a new player with some feedback on this. Would really help me out as this games mechanics are much more in depth then gw2 with all the morphing and what not
I'm coming from gw2 always maining guardian and then reveanant.
I'm all pve, mostly solo, don't like pvp.
I really like doing above normal damage, but gladly sacrifice max damage for survival.
I would love doing sword and board not as a tank but doing damage.
I also like the ability to self heal.
From what I've gathered a magicka templar might work pretty well for me?
If that is the case or not what class would you recommend and what skills would you recommend I used with the class to best suit what I am looking for?
Thank you to anyone who can provide a new player with some feedback on this. Would really help me out as this games mechanics are much more in depth then gw2 with all the morphing and what not
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temjiu✭✭✭✭I would say a magicka templar is a good start. the class development is very different here then in GW2 (played GW2 for a few years myself), and much of your choices are just as much the weapons you level as the class.
That being said, S&B in this game is more of a defensive setup. you can counter this mostly with just buffing your class skills through magicka and picking DPS options for your skills morphs.
Also, once your 15 you can slot a second weapon with a totally different set of skills. so you could put there, as an example, two one handed weapons to dish out higher spell damage (yes, Dual wield weapons increases spell damage, has to do with weapon damage boosting spell damage), and keep the S&B on your other set for up close situations. Or use a restoration staff instead of the DW to be a semi-decent off healer.
here's a guide for a class setup that is close to what your looking for:
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/dark-templar-2-0-universal-pvpve-build/
Can't speak for it's overall effectiveness, but the author does well with it, and it's a good starting point for you to follow, and you can tweak your own build as you go along.Edited by temjiu on November 21, 2015 10:07PM0 -
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✭✭✭I loved using the GS with my guardian. If you want to be really tanky while at the same time dishing out damage then I'd recommend being a 2H/S&S Dragonknight. They also have one of the best self heals in the game: Green Dragon Blood.0 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »I loved using the GS with my guardian. If you want to be really tanky while at the same time dishing out damage then I'd recommend being a 2H/S&S Dragonknight. They also have one of the best self heals in the game: Green Dragon Blood.
Green dragon blood isnt good anymore ... vigor is beter0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
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Green dragon blood isnt good anymore ... vigor is beter
Depends on your health. I honestly don't use vigor on my DK; don't need it. When I get low on health I use GDB to get to 80+% then I hit a rally and I'm back to full. I can literally go from 10% health to full in 2 seconds, and that's in Cyrodiil.0 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Depends on your health. I honestly don't use vigor on my DK; don't need it. When I get low on health I use GDB to get to 80+% then I hit a rally and I'm back to full. I can literally go from 10% health to full in 2 seconds, and that's in Cyrodiil.
yes cause gdb can heal 70% of your health.
thats just blantly not true, it heals 30% of missing health/ 2 cause healing debuf in cyrodill. so thats 15 % of missing health so useless in pvp. in PvE it still has it's uses0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
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yes cause gdb can heal 70% of your health.
thats just blantly not true, it heals 30% of missing health/ 2 cause healing debuf in cyrodill. so thats 15 % of missing health so useless in pvp. in PvE it still has it's uses
It is actually. When I'm getting low on health I'll hit igneous shield then 2 GDB and finish my health with rally. If you don't believe me then that's on you.0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
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yes cause gdb can heal 70% of your health.
thats just blantly not true, it heals 30% of missing health/ 2 cause healing debuf in cyrodill. so thats 15 % of missing health so useless in pvp. in PvE it still has it's uses
The op said they don't like pvp.PC | EU0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you listen to everyone,you will just get confused,sweety.You have 8 character slots,and can delete any one of them at any time.SO,..my suggestion to you is try them all until you find your favorite. :}2 -
Artemisshrikes✭✭✭
Green dragon blood isnt good anymore ... vigor is beter
depends on your health the higher your health the more GDB heals its based on healthVR 16 Dragonknight Sarenvog (AD, Former Emperor)0 -
mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭Artemisshrikes wrote: »
depends on your health the higher your health the more GDB heals its based on health
Don't ever listen to anything Sarenvog says.1 -
Artemisshrikes✭✭✭
Don't ever listen to anything Sarenvog says.
you talking about me or that one guy who copied my sig and trolls with it?VR 16 Dragonknight Sarenvog (AD, Former Emperor)0 -
Flipd✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »I loved using the GS with my guardian. If you want to be really tanky while at the same time dishing out damage then I'd recommend being a 2H/S&S Dragonknight. They also have one of the best self heals in the game: Green Dragon Blood.
how does dps compare to dk with templar? also are you magic or stam?0 -
ColoursYouHave✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hope someone can maybe send me in the right direction here.
I'm coming from gw2 always maining guardian and then reveanant.
I'm all pve, mostly solo, don't like pvp.
I really like doing above normal damage, but gladly sacrifice max damage for survival.
I would love doing sword and board not as a tank but doing damage.
I also like the ability to self heal.
From what I've gathered a magicka templar might work pretty well for me?
If that is the case or not what class would you recommend and what skills would you recommend I used with the class to best suit what I am looking for?
Thank you to anyone who can provide a new player with some feedback on this. Would really help me out as this games mechanics are much more in depth then gw2 with all the morphing and what not
Based on what you described, Magicka Templar sound like a good choice. Can use sword and board skill Shield Charge for a gap closer, Puncturing Sweeps (morph of Puncturing Strikes) for damage and some self healing, and Rushed Ceremony for massive self healing. Repentance (morph of Restoring Aura), Piercing Javelin, Spear Shards, and Sun Shield might also be worth trying for that kind of play style. What's nice about Magicka Templar is that you get some of your best skills unlocked right away. I'd recommend just grabbing the first skill in each skill line right away, including the ranged one so you can level the skill line, and trying out new skills as you unlock them.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I hope someone can maybe send me in the right direction here.
From your description, templar or dragonknight would be choices you might appreciate.
Templar is high on heals, and some very good magic damage abilities if going magica-build, though generally the magica builds go for the healer option, since they excel at it. As stamina build they still are good on the survivability scale due to their emergency heals - with heavy armor, they make decent tanks, since they can easily heal what gets through their mail. With medium armor, they can burn off a fireworks of stamina attacks, and still have their magica-based heals to help them survive.
Dragonknight is high on flame and tankyness, with a very good selfheal to help them get through most things. Green Dragon Blood may not be OP anymore compared to other heals, but its still pretty good, and spammable - the "go from almost dead to almost full health" trick is something DKs still are pretty handy with (and boy does it make nightblades or sorcerors green with envy). Even worse for ranged enemies is their flapping wings, a skill that reflects enemy projectiles for a bit. Magica build DKs go pyromancer-ish, blowing off firestorms all around them. Stamina DKs make the best tanks in the game, and still hold the "hardest to kill" record in straight up fights (not so much in the "bravely run away" category, there nightblades have the advantage through their cloak) due to GDB and tankyness advantages.
One-handed and shield is the most defensive weapon setup, which may make for somewhat lengthy fights, since it alone just doesn't have the DPS of others. But its entirely viable for soloing... and complements tanky "immortal" builds quite well.
Two-handed is the current "best" for melee fights, everyone and their granny spams wrecking blow all over cyrodil these days
For solo playing its also great - it has a shielding AoE attack, a CC strike, a gap close, a finisher AND a buff with heal - no wonder a great many people love it.
Dual-wield is a bit more limited, but has some nice skills as well. More for the "just strike them down quick-quick-uick" dps setup then someone who likes survivability.
Bow is of course the ranged stamina weapon, and ca.n make for some great archer builds... or a good secondary weapon for stamina builds, since some bosses are not really all that melee-friendly...
But those are dependent on stamina... magica builds usually go for staves (for the magica-recovery heavy attacks) or DW (for extra spell damage, though there have been rumours that may get changed someday)
Heavy armor is the tanky stuff - all about keeping health up, resisting damage and increasing healing effects, but will do nothing for your resource regeneration - expect to use a lot of heavy attacks when going heavy armor.
Medium armor is for stamina regen and sneakyness - it makes for dishing out a lot of stamina DPS, but will be noticable weak when taking hits... something selfheals can help with.
And of course the skirts... ehm, light armor is for mages and such, magica regeneration and spell enhancements. Magica builds seldom wear anything else, since they live and die through their magica. Take a lot of damage when someone gets to them, but usually have other ways to migrate, be it shields, self-heals or whatever...
In your shoes, I would make a DK and a templar, see which one suits you better. You -can- switch between stamina and magica builds by respecing, though its somewhat tenious... but then, the game allows up to eight alts, so you could easily make DK and Temp in both versions, play all four through the starter islands, and see which one you prefer.
Though from what you describe, I would think you might be happier with stamina versions, or perhaps even mixed builds (stamina templar/DK with a bit of magica to fuel the heals and class skills...)
Have fun trying out some builds! 0 -
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✭If you want easy mode then for pvp choose a nightblade, and for pve choose a sorcerer. If you want to be yelled at in groups then be a magicka templar, and if you want to be used be a stamina dragon knight or laughed at choose a magicka dragon knight or if you want to spam 1 skill choose a stamina templar.Edited by Justice31st on November 22, 2015 11:40AM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0