Useless tutorials at load screens ruining interesting lore blurbs

Dahveed

I'll enter a new zone, new dungeon, city, instance, whatever, and I'll see a couple sentences about the place: it's lore, history, recent events, etc. Then 2 seconds later, after I've only read half of it, some completely useless random "tutorial" will replace the interesting lore with something I already know. I'm over 100 hours into the game, I don't need tutorials anymore.

At first it was only slightly annoying, now it is just maddening and stupid. Seriously how many times do they need to tell me how to interact with another player, or that a public dungeon is marked with such-and-such an icon? It's beyond ***. I wonder if the devs even play their own game sometimes.

Jura23

I wouldn't say they are useless, but I think they should just put one thing on each loading screen. Either lore or tutorial thing, but don't switch in the middle, that's annoying.

Elloa

This is a minor thing, but I totally agree with it! It's even frustrating as you do not have the time to read the interesting lore bit.

daemonios

You have time to read those things?

Xendyn

Yep, esp the ones in Wrothgar. I'd love to actually read the lore.

Jura23

Xendyn wrote: »

Yep, esp the ones in Wrothgar. I'd love to actually read the lore.

We can always try to take a screenshot lol

IwakuraLain42

daemonios wrote: »

You have time to read those things?

Considering how long zone loading on consoles take, yes there's more then enough time to read these

Vildebill

Yeah this is extremely annoying, the real lore is up for like a second or two instead of 20 secs or so, and then insta tutorial. This is new and must be considered a bug.

Draxys

Honestly the lore blurbs are pretty poorly written anyway. Most of them sound cheesy.

bedlom

I agree and I wish zos would sort it out, i'd much perfer reading about the location I am loading in rather the same few old tips over and over.

I thought zos said in the patch notes they sorted this but I notice tonight I still never read the location lore.

Dahveed

Draxys wrote: »

Honestly the lore blurbs are pretty poorly written anyway. Most of them sound cheesy.

Be that as it may, I'd rather read a cheesy lore blurb that gives me at least *some* interesting (or not?) information about the delve I'm entering, rather than seeing the same tutorial message about GMS having official icons... for what, the 127th time?

Come on.

I really wish I could love this game more than I do, but the absurdities just keep piling up on top of eachother, I can't help but sigh and shake my head.

ADarklore

They need to add more time to READ the blurbs before quickly jetting off to some useless "tutorial" that by the time you read it you already know about it anyway. I think those tutorial blurbs should automatically turn off once your account shows a certain number of hours played or have a toggle that you can turn off.

Twilix01

ADarklore wrote: »

They need to add more time to READ the blurbs before quickly jetting off to some useless "tutorial" that by the time you read it you already know about it anyway. I think those tutorial blurbs should automatically turn off once your account shows a certain number of hours played or have a toggle that you can turn off.

Perhaps attach it to the tutorial toggle already in place that turns off pop-up tutorials?

LMar

Yes, please let the lore titibits display for longer. It used to be like that but something changed along the way. It would make the still long loading screens a bit more interesting

TheHereticMonk

If they just switched the order round that'd solve it.
Tutorial first and then the lore for the remainder of the looooong load screen.

altemriel

Dahveed wrote: »

I'll enter a new zone, new dungeon, city, instance, whatever, and I'll see a couple sentences about the place: it's lore, history, recent events, etc. Then 2 seconds later, after I've only read half of it, some completely useless random "tutorial" will replace the interesting lore with something I already know. I'm over 100 hours into the game, I don't need tutorials anymore.

At first it was only slightly annoying, now it is just maddening and stupid. Seriously how many times do they need to tell me how to interact with another player, or that a public dungeon is marked with such-and-such an icon? It's beyond ***. I wonder if the devs even play their own game sometimes.

I totally agree, most of the time I am not able to read the first info and there comes the repetetive second one....

Rook_Master

At least I get a laugh out of the "tips" that pop up on the death recount. The ones on the loadscreen are simply in poor taste.

Darlgon

I asked about this back on November 5th.. and got crickets...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/229344/double-load-screens#latest

At least you received player responses. Yeah.. I really hate when a good one gets replaced by crap I have seen a hundred times.

Dahveed

I am necroing this thread because I had previously thought (incorrectly) that the issue was fixed in a patch.

Boy, was I wrong. I have started playing again this past week and the same annoying problem persists.

I just went into an outlaw's refuge and there was a new lore blurb I hadn't seen yet about this local refuge.

I had time to read about 6 words before it immediately changed to some useless crap about Wayshrines. WAYSHRINES!!!!

WOW REALLY I AM LEVEL 49 WITH 200 HOURS PLAYED AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WAYSHRINES YET, THANKS!

This is totally absurd. I can't believe something this very bad can persist for this long. This absolutely must be changed.

Marcosyn11

I'm a person that really loves to get immersed and to understand the lore, I'm a big fan of the Elder Scrolls lore and I agree with the OP, it's annoying that I always try to read the lore and after 2 seconds it changes to a random tutorial when I don't need it anymore. I always read the lore sentences like there was no tomorrow because of this little but annoying problem and in the end I don't even understand it because I didn't have the time to read it carefully.

Recremen

Yes good, let the desire for lore flow through you. >:3

magnusthorek

Why ZOS can't just condition thoese useless messages, I mean, from the point of view of an experienced player (and by experienced I don't mean good, let's be clear), to the "show tutorial" option from Settings.

That's so simple! Will not hurt and, as long the game's code isn't a total spaghetti, it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to code.

Dahveed

magnusthorek wrote: »

Why ZOS can't just condition thoese useless messages, I mean, from the point of view of an experienced player (and by experienced I don't mean good, let's be clear), to the "show tutorial" option from Settings.

That's so simple! Will not hurt and, as long the game's code isn't a total spaghetti, it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to code.

This is one of the many reasons I always hit a wall when I try to get back into this game. There are so many bizarre design decisions that make absolutely no sense, and which are completely useless to almost everyone.

Seriously what level 49 player needs to know about Wayshrines? How stupid do they think I am?

I could probably make a laundry list about five pages long about things like this which are just... flabbergasting.