Why is there not a possibility to improve the level of a particular armor/weapon??

Gidorick · November 2015

altemriel wrote: »

Yes, re-crafting the item to a higher level should require a bit more materials than just crafting it in that level.

Why should re-crafting armor cost MORE than making new armor? Why not just then make new armor?

temjiu · November 2015

Iluvrien wrote: »

temjiu wrote: »

I support this idea.

well, the idea's. I like the idea of upgrading, as well as more customization options. And I'd be willing to pay for both, whether in game or Crowns. Most f2p MMO's out there have customization options that you purchase through the stores, this would fit very smoothly in the current game design.

Why pay, with Crowns, for something that, if it is offered in-game, should be based on in-game gold and in-game materials?

Game mechanics, which gear improvement is, shouldn't been in the Crown store. Ever.

I probably should clarify. Customization can come from the store, And i was referring to that. I lumped them together by accident. I do agree that game improvements shouldn't be in the store. Customization is perfectly OK to be there.

temjiu · November 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Yes, re-crafting the item to a higher level should require a bit more materials than just crafting it in that level.

Why should re-crafting armor cost MORE than making new armor? Why not just then make new armor?

re-crafting is about being able to use specific set bonuses that you like, or that work with your build, that are on a set that is lower level and thus doesn't have the stats to keep up with the VR16 stuff.

There are sets that are not scaled to vr16. some of them are just a few levels behind, but still can't keep up with the vr16 stats due to scaling. if it was just plain gear, then yeah, there's not much reason to upgrade. it's the sets.

EDIT: also if you like the look of an earlier set, say the heavy mid 30's wood elf set, you can craft that set to your liking, upgrade to vr16 and presto, a custom top tier armor set for your toon.

temjiu · November 2015

deleted, double post. or triple. whatever.

NewBlacksmurf · November 2015

altemriel wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Deandril wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

When leveling up you don't need new armor every few levels. I go 10 levels per armor and 5 vet levels. No issue and no problems getting through the content especially since it is so nerfed.

No need for this to be implemented. Should not be.

This should be implemented simply for the reason that many dropped sets could be increased to max level. Level cap raises have killed many great sets.

The gear grind is a big part of any MMO and a big reason this should not be implemented. If it ever was it should be absurdly expensive and challenging to be able in the first place and BoP.

yes but not everyone likes grinding, some of us like to explore new locations and quests and not do the same over and over. so this option would be for us and you can grind if you want ;o)

Sorry to jump in but if you're exploring and questing why would you be concerns with gear progression?
The single player game is pretty easy and with greens you can do everything solo wise other than the new Vet M Arena

Upgrading gear for this is pretty much a waste considering the quest drop and purple drops that are found while questing. Even the sets that are blue or green which can currently be upgrade to Legendary if you craft based on the context of this topic.

Leon119 · November 2015

all these abilities could be implemented with a lvl 50 crafting skill with passives that allow these things.
for example style recraft passive at lvl 50 or trait or lvling up the piece ect.

Zeth163 · November 2015

I think its fine as is. U find plenty in the field as well as materials. u can enchant anything that isnt enchanted and building ur armor allows u to change ur stats over the course of the game not to mention u get exp. from every piece of armor/weapon u make. so i dont really see any issues this causes nor do i see any advantages to implementing an improvement system

altemriel · November 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Deandril wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

When leveling up you don't need new armor every few levels. I go 10 levels per armor and 5 vet levels. No issue and no problems getting through the content especially since it is so nerfed.

No need for this to be implemented. Should not be.

This should be implemented simply for the reason that many dropped sets could be increased to max level. Level cap raises have killed many great sets.

The gear grind is a big part of any MMO and a big reason this should not be implemented. If it ever was it should be absurdly expensive and challenging to be able in the first place and BoP.

yes but not everyone likes grinding, some of us like to explore new locations and quests and not do the same over and over. so this option would be for us and you can grind if you want ;o)

Sorry to jump in but if you're exploring and questing why would you be concerns with gear progression?
The single player game is pretty easy and with greens you can do everything solo wise other than the new Vet M Arena

Upgrading gear for this is pretty much a waste considering the quest drop and purple drops that are found while questing. Even the sets that are blue or green which can currently be upgrade to Legendary if you craft based on the context of this topic.

well because I have a set and improved it several times and that costs pretty much gold and I like that set and I want to keep it and not "have to" deconstruct it in few more ranks up and get a new one with a higher level.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Tors wrote: »

Games Like DAOC had a % quality level that was pretty random, this meant that in order to get the perfect armour, a player wanted 100% value before they started to enchant it. THe problem was, even the best crafters would nered to make an item 10 times in order to get that 100% drop.

Painfuil

We certainly don't want to encourage ZOS to have more RNG...

altemriel · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Tors wrote: »

Games Like DAOC had a % quality level that was pretty random, this meant that in order to get the perfect armour, a player wanted 100% value before they started to enchant it. THe problem was, even the best crafters would nered to make an item 10 times in order to get that 100% drop.

Painfuil

We certainly don't want to encourage ZOS to have more RNG...

I have no idea what "RNG" means, but randomness with crafting is pretty bad....when someone is advanced or even master crafter that is non-sense

MrDerrikk · November 2015

altemriel wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Tors wrote: »

Games Like DAOC had a % quality level that was pretty random, this meant that in order to get the perfect armour, a player wanted 100% value before they started to enchant it. THe problem was, even the best crafters would nered to make an item 10 times in order to get that 100% drop.

Painfuil

We certainly don't want to encourage ZOS to have more RNG...

I have no idea what "RNG" means, but randomness with crafting is pretty bad....when someone is advanced or even master crafter that is non-sense

RNG stands for Random Number Generation, and is what is happening with the random traits, sets, weights etc. of armor that has been added to the game at an exponential rate

altemriel · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Tors wrote: »

Games Like DAOC had a % quality level that was pretty random, this meant that in order to get the perfect armour, a player wanted 100% value before they started to enchant it. THe problem was, even the best crafters would nered to make an item 10 times in order to get that 100% drop.

Painfuil

We certainly don't want to encourage ZOS to have more RNG...

I have no idea what "RNG" means, but randomness with crafting is pretty bad....when someone is advanced or even master crafter that is non-sense

RNG stands for Random Number Generation, and is what is happening with the random traits, sets, weights etc. of armor that has been added to the game at an exponential rate

aha, yes, I thought so. So I agree with @MrDerrikk that RNG should not be a part of crafting in ESO.

Volkodav · November 2015

Ya know,eventually crafting wont need to be ingame anymore.You can buy it ALL in the crown store.IF you keep asking dfor this and that to b

altemriel wrote: »

Hallo ZOS,

I would like to ask, why is there not a possibility to improve the level of the particular armor that I am using right now? Why do "I have to" create a new armor to match my level (to increase the armor stats) every few new levels? Why can I not just (for cost of some materials of course) improve the level of my armor that I am using now?

Will such an option be added to the game in the future?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

You CAN improve it.All the way to Legendary. I have armor that is several levels below me,not even VR1,which I am.It works great because I finally got all the ingredients to improve it as far as I can. Armor and weapons dont always have to be at your level for them to work great.

Volkodav · November 2015

Personally,I hope they s top adding things to the crown store that are already in the game.Crafting should never be bought.They put it into the game to be learned,not paid for.

altemriel · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Ya know,eventually crafting wont need to be ingame anymore.You can buy it ALL in the crown store.IF you keep asking dfor this and that to b

altemriel wrote: »

Hallo ZOS,

I would like to ask, why is there not a possibility to improve the level of the particular armor that I am using right now? Why do "I have to" create a new armor to match my level (to increase the armor stats) every few new levels? Why can I not just (for cost of some materials of course) improve the level of my armor that I am using now?

Will such an option be added to the game in the future?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

You CAN improve it.All the way to Legendary. I have armor that is several levels below me,not even VR1,which I am.It works great because I finally got all the ingredients to improve it as far as I can. Armor and weapons dont always have to be at your level for them to work great.

yes I know what you are writting, but still, the higher level of the armor, the more protection and other stats its get, so it would be great if I could increase the level of the particular piece with me leveling

altemriel · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Personally,I hope they s top adding things to the crown store that are already in the game.Crafting should never be bought.They put it into the game to be learned,not paid for.

I agree! The same for motifs in the crown store!

MrDerrikk · November 2015

You know, if they added this into the game then I'm pretty sure it would solve a lot of the problems that the crowd hating on the VR-CP change are finding with it.

altemriel · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

You know, if they added this into the game then I'm pretty sure it would solve a lot of the problems that the crowd hating on the VR-CP change are finding with it.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

altemriel · November 2015

altemriel wrote: »

Hallo ZOS,

I would like to ask, why is there not a possibility to improve the level of the particular armor that I am using right now? Why do "I have to" create a new armor to match my level (to increase the armor stats) every few new levels? Why can I not just (for cost of some materials of course) improve the level of my armor that I am using now?

Will such an option be added to the game in the future?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

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Nic727 · November 2015

We need this option!

Nic727 · December 2015

In the latest ESO Live, they said no

It seem that they want us to make armors every levels, because it will devaluate crafting and value...

Gidorick · January 2016

so this is the thread that I was remembering about this... can the lesson we can take from this be that spamming all the ZOS employees will get your question answered?

altemriel · January 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

so this is the thread that I was remembering about this... can the lesson we can take from this be that spamming all the ZOS employees will get your question answered?

well not really

, I once made a post, then reposted it as a link to two other forums, tagged all the zos employees. my post got deleted and I have been warned about breaking the code of conduct about spamming

the question that I got answered was not this post, but posting this question to ESO Live Ask us anything forum

Gidorick · January 2016

altemriel wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

so this is the thread that I was remembering about this... can the lesson we can take from this be that spamming all the ZOS employees will get your question answered?

well not really , I once made a post, then reposted it as a link to two other forums, tagged all the zos employees. my post got deleted and I have been warned about breaking the code of conduct about spamming

the question that I got answered was not this post, but posting this question to ESO Live Ask us anything forum

OH! You ALSO put it in the Ask us Anything forum... lol. ok... that's good to know.

Mic1007 · January 2016

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Give Master Crafters this ability.

This would be a great incentive for people to level up their crafting.

Iluvrien · January 2016

Mic1007 wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Give Master Crafters this ability.

This would be a great incentive for people to level up their crafting.

Or to support those people who have already leveled theirs up and could use the work

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DurzoBlint13 · January 2016

altemriel wrote: »

Hallo ZOS,

I would like to ask, why is there not a possibility to improve the level of the particular armor that I am using right now? Why do "I have to" create a new armor to match my level (to increase the armor stats) every few new levels? Why can I not just (for cost of some materials of course) improve the level of my armor that I am using now?

Will such an option be added to the game in the future?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

because ZOS wants people to feel like they have to buy Orsinium to get v16 gear. They want you to grind. They want it to be hard to get top level gear.

AFrostWolf · January 2016

They said no in the last ESO live. Clearly out of touch with their player base.

Dexter411 · January 2016

Why not let us improve only noncraftable sets to Vr16? Like Silk of the Sun Set and rest. In Wrothgar, some Ancient Orc technic or something like that. Plus they dont need to work very hard to scale it other then 5th piece bonus.
Players happy, devs happy.
P.S. Not any RNG item, daily reward quest
Edit: Vr15-16 mats are sick joke, not only you need 120-140 per item but also you get a CHANCE to get them, from nods and drops, dec item gives you x1. Well done sirs

altemriel · January 2016

Dexter411 wrote: »

Why not let us improve only noncraftable sets to Vr16? Like Silk of the Sun Set and rest. In Wrothgar, some Ancient Orc technic or something like that. Plus they dont need to work very hard to scale it other then 5th piece bonus.
Players happy, devs happy.
P.S. Not any RNG item, daily reward quest
Edit: Vr15-16 mats are sick joke, not only you need 120-140 per item but also you get a CHANCE to get them, from nods and drops, dec item gives you x1. Well done sirs

yes, deconstructing such an item should give at least 50 % of the mats invested!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober