looking for group tool

Runkorko

I think is time to add some kind of penalty for leavers. For example- you que for grp, your grp is full, ppl travel inside the dungeon. you leave = 1 hour uneable to use lfg option. I get sick of trolls in this game. I spend (so far today) 2 hours traveling in and out of dungeons only because someone decide to leave (before we even tried the dung) and is not just today . This doesn't make me hapy and I doubt it makes someone happy (except trolls). Please Zenimax consider to add some kind of reward for ppl who finished dungeon using LFG tool (like some xp or +X% xp boost buff for 30 min after you compleate the dungeon with random grp, for players below v16) and find a way to punish the leavers.I`l be hapy if i have more reasons to do dungeons when i lvl up, not just 1 time per dungeon to get skill point quest done and one more time for today pledge quest. Thanks

anitajoneb17_ESO

Valid suggestions, imho.

SirCritical

I have never used the tool but isn't this quitting maybe because the quitters want to group up with their friends from the other alliances, but the tool gives them other applicants than their mates?

Tbh if I would be in this case that I'd like to clear a dungeon with my mates from the other faction, and I got other players, I would say a sorry and leave. I dunno how else could I solve this "problem".

Only ZOS could help: make grouping fully cross-factionable, not just through the tool, and let the tool for those, who really can't find companios from their friends/guild roster.

Runkorko

SirCritical wrote: »

I have never used the tool but isn't this quitting maybe because the quitters want to group up with their friends from the other alliances, but the tool gives them other applicants than their mates?

Tbh if I would be in this case that I'd like to clear a dungeon with my mates from the other faction, and I got other players, I would say a sorry and leave. I dunno how else could I solve this "problem".

Only ZOS could help: make grouping fully cross-factionable, not just through the tool, and let the tool for those, who really can't find companios from their friends/guild roster.

That they want to play with their friends does not give them an excuse to ruin the people day. if they want to play so badly together, thy cnage aliance or just w8 one more month til zos eneable cross faction pve. And you are right, they can say atleast sry this is my reason to be here and this is my reason to leave, is not so hard and no one will blame them. But there is another problem to. If anyone leave in the midle or even in the end of the dungeon, you must be rdy to 3 man it or quit because 90% ot newcomers leave when they see is not fresh run. Imagine what happens when tank or healer leave:) you spend 30-40+ min and you are not able to finish dungeon. This must be fixed. PPL must have reason to stay even if they join in the midle of the dung. Will be nice if they aouto get the other ppl dungeon quest progress because now this is the only reason for players to use fg.

SirCritical

Sure. In my explained case the quitter should leave in the very beginning just after he/she realizes that this is not the party which he/she wanted.

Runkorko

SirCritical wrote: »

Sure. In my explained case the quitter should leave in the very beginning just after he/she realizes that this is not the party which he/she wanted.

Even then they must be punish. If there is a some kind of que position, once you have full party you leave it, and when 1 member leave and rest of you que again this place you at the bottom of the chain. With short ques this wont be a problem but we all know how much time takes to find grp

http://imgur.com/WcOcnkh and stil waithing
do notice i feel 2 roles/ now imagine if i`m pure dd

and btw this is today silver ...

MrDerrikk

How about the opposite - a positive consequence for people who actually stayed when it looked bad? Something like a commendation by the other members if they choose to say that member was very good?

Circuitica

I've been trying to group up with my friend from another alliance and it never works. Every time I have ended up in a random group. I never leave that group though but it makes me sad I'm unable to group up with my friend.

Imo the grouping tool should prioritize your friends on your friend list over others, so if you are queueing up with someone on your friend list at the same time, you would end up in same group.

CirithValaria

Circuitica wrote: »

I've been trying to group up with my friend from another alliance and it never works. Every time I have ended up in a random group. I never leave that group though but it makes me sad I'm unable to group up with my friend.

Imo the grouping tool should prioritize your friends on your friend list over others, so if you are queueing up with someone on your friend list at the same time, you would end up in same group.

Very true, the priority order should indeed be something like:
-> friend list / guild rosters / own alliance / other alliances

edit: and never from ignore list

Anhedonie

Permaban as a penalty for leaving sounds good.

Circuitica

And yes - I support the op's idea of penalty for leavers. It's sad that almost every time a full group is formed, somebody leaves.

Khaos_Bane

Circuitica wrote: »

I've been trying to group up with my friend from another alliance and it never works. Every time I have ended up in a random group. I never leave that group though but it makes me sad I'm unable to group up with my friend.

Imo the grouping tool should prioritize your friends on your friend list over others, so if you are queueing up with someone on your friend list at the same time, you would end up in same group.

This is a great idea, but it should be optional based on settings you can specify. Above poster included preference to friends list and guild, but I am basically only in trading guilds so I would want that preference.

NobleNerd

Circuitica wrote: »

I've been trying to group up with my friend from another alliance and it never works. Every time I have ended up in a random group. I never leave that group though but it makes me sad I'm unable to group up with my friend.

Imo the grouping tool should prioritize your friends on your friend list over others, so if you are queueing up with someone on your friend list at the same time, you would end up in same group.

I too have tried numerous times to get a group together of guildmates from differing alliances. It is frustrating to make it work right now. I did find setting the queue for a specific dungeon helps, but there should be some feature for guild members of differing factions to use this system easier for grouping.

Ilsabet

There may also be issues with people having different purposes for doing the same dungeon. It's my secondhand understanding that the objectives for pledges are different than the objectives for, say, the initial quest in a certain dungeon, and the tool doesn't have any way to specify what you actually want to do in there. People may want to leave a group if they find out that the rest of the group wants to do different bosses than the ones they need.

UrQuan

Ilsabet wrote: »

There may also be issues with people having different purposes for doing the same dungeon. It's my secondhand understanding that the objectives for pledges are different than the objectives for, say, the initial quest in a certain dungeon, and the tool doesn't have any way to specify what you actually want to do in there. People may want to leave a group if they find out that the rest of the group wants to do different bosses than the ones they need.

The pledge objectives are to kill the bosses.

For the non-vet dungeon, if you're doing the pledge you want to kill all of the bosses, including ones that you might otherwise be able to skip (that's the difference between getting a bronze key and a silver key). That meshes up fine with the objectives of someone doing the dungeon for the dungeon quest.

For the vet dungeon pledge, you only have to kill the main bosses (the difference between a silver key and a gold key is that for the gold key you have to use a mechanic that will make the final fight more difficult). In some dungeons that means that you can skip past mini bosses along the way, and that's the only time when the objectives of someone doing the pledge might not line up with the objectives of someone doing the dungeon's quest.

Personally, even when it's possible, I prefer not to skip any of the bosses anyway. I'm not just doing pledges to get rewards - I'm also doing them to have fun doing boss fights in a group. Unless I'm tired or pressed for time, I don't see why I would want to skip any of the fights. If everyone else in the group wants to skip a fight, I'll go along with that, but I prefer to do them all - and if there's one person in the group who has the dungeon quest, I'll make sure that we complete it for them.

Ilsabet

Thanks for the explanation. I still haven't gone in yet myself, so I'm just extrapolating from things I've read.

That's encouraging for me, though, since at my current (overleveled) level I'm probably going to use the group tool for the dungeons I haven't done yet, so I'm glad I won't be at odds with the people doing the non-vet pledges as far as what to kill.

UrQuan

Ilsabet wrote: »

Thanks for the explanation. I still haven't gone in yet myself, so I'm just extrapolating from things I've read.

That's encouraging for me, though, since at my current (overleveled) level I'm probably going to use the group tool for the dungeons I haven't done yet, so I'm glad I won't be at odds with the people doing the non-vet pledges as far as what to kill.

Yeah, for the non-vet dungeons it won't be an issue for you - at least not unless people are trying for the bronze key instead of the silver key for some reason, but that would just be silly. For the vet dungeons it might or might not be an issue for you, depending on the people you group with.

Shadesofkin

Since there is no real benefit to using the tool, it seems like you'd be adding "stick" without the "carrot" and I'm not keen on that idea.

That being said, I do believe the priority list of searching the LFG tool should be more focused on friends and guildmates before gen pop.