The New Zerg Meta

Ishammael
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Subtomik was back on this weekend. First thing he says in TS, "man there were some zergs in 1.4, but now they are everywhere."

At least back then we had bats and dynamic ultimate to bust them up. I'm started to think about arguing to bring back the streak/bat sorc and permanently bat DK just to bust this *** up. Because it's getting *** ridiculous.
  • Satiar
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    Zergs are still plenty easy to break with 12-16 people, ultis and a half decent choke will do it.
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  • Psilent
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Subtomik was back on this weekend. First thing he says in TS, "man there were some zergs in 1.4, but now they are everywhere."

    At least back then we had bats and dynamic ultimate to bust them up. I'm started to think about arguing to bring back the streak/bat sorc and permanently bat DK just to bust this *** up. Because it's getting *** ridiculous.

    There are other campaigns than Azura's Star to play on currently. The other night had a lot of fun on Haderus and tonight caused a lot of trouble on Axe and had a great time. FPS was above 60 and ping was below 100 the whole time and there were some nice 12v14 battles between EP and AD.

    If you want AP then yea, stay on Azura's and complain about zergs; if you want fun good fights, leave and go elsewhere. In my opinion let the Wizarzerg, Slazerg, Bulzerg, and whoever the EP zerg is fight each other. Bring your group to another campaign for an evening. Its fun to actually be able to control your character and fight someone!

    Went over to Azura's that afternoon and attacked BRK, was hit by the Slazerg and ping jumped up to 500 and FPS dropped to 3. Needless to say, we left to another campaign to find good fights.
  • xylena
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    outside of NA primetime, azura's is the only camp with anything going on at all... that prevents a lot of players from leaving it
    Retired until we break the Tank Meta
  • vortexman11
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Subtomik was back on this weekend. First thing he says in TS, "man there were some zergs in 1.4, but now they are everywhere."

    At least back then we had bats and dynamic ultimate to bust them up. I'm started to think about arguing to bring back the streak/bat sorc and permanently bat DK just to bust this *** up. Because it's getting *** ridiculous.

    I've gotta disagree with Subtomik there. In 1.4 there were the same amount if not more zergs compared to now. The difference is that it's not as easy to counter a zerg as it was back then and more obviously...we start getting FPS drops and ping spikes with less than half the amount of people it would of taken back then on the screen.
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  • Psilent
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    xylena wrote: »
    outside of NA primetime, azura's is the only camp with anything going on at all... that prevents a lot of players from leaving it

    PvE got a 1vX Arena, maybe ZOS can make us PvP players a 1v1 Arena for off hours. Would be fun! I agree with you, outside of Prime Time the other campaigns are PvWall.

  • Pain In The Axe
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    The thing about 1.4 is that the zergs were dead before they even had time to use what little brain power they had. Then they complained, now look at where we are lol. We should just create a time machine as a community and go back a year ago and everyone will be happy
    WTB fire bats
    Edited by Pain In The Axe on November 16, 2015 8:42AM
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  • Xiphyla
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    I've gotta disagree with Subtomik there. In 1.4 there were the same amount if not more zergs compared to now. The difference is that it's not as easy to counter a zerg as it was back then and more obviously...we start getting FPS drops and ping spikes with less than half the amount of people it would of taken back then on the screen.

    Last time there's zerg but the zerg isnt as bad as now and you actually find small to medium scale fights whereas the fights spread around cyrodil (with forward camp). Zos dont give a *** to pvp anyway , they only care about getting more dlc pve content so they can milk more money out.
    Edited by Xiphyla on November 16, 2015 10:46AM
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  • Teargrants
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    WTB Purge bug. :trollface:
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  • Lava_Croft
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    WTB Purge bug. :trollface:
    Meatbags and Purge bug.

    Bye zerg.
  • Draxys
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    WTB Purge bug. :trollface:

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  • Turelus
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    xylena wrote: »
    outside of NA primetime, azura's is the only camp with anything going on at all... that prevents a lot of players from leaving it

    EU is exactly the same. Azura's Star as a constant PvP campaign, then a bunch of buff/farming campaigns for IC. They need to close more than Chillrend IMO. I don't care about queuing for PvP if once I get in there is actually PvP and it's lag free.
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  • Lava_Croft
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    Turelus wrote: »

    EU is exactly the same. Azura's Star as a constant PvP campaign, then a bunch of buff/farming campaigns for IC. They need to close more than Chillrend IMO. I don't care about queuing for PvP if once I get in there is actually PvP and it's lag free.
    I think we might have a problem here...
  • Raizin
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    Turelus wrote: »

    EU is exactly the same. Azura's Star as a constant PvP campaign, then a bunch of buff/farming campaigns for IC. They need to close more than Chillrend IMO. I don't care about queuing for PvP if once I get in there is actually PvP and it's lag free.

    one can dream ey.
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  • Zavus
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    The thing about 1.4 is that the zergs were dead before they even had time to use what little brain power they had. Then they complained, now look at where we are lol. We should just create a time machine as a community and go back a year ago and everyone will be happy
    WTB fire bats

    Never gonna be without the zerg again

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    Edited by Zavus on November 16, 2015 1:25PM
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  • Anazasi
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    AvAvA world pvp inherently encourages ZERGS. It's a mechanic, victory in numbers. There is very little that can be done with a herd or mob mentality especially in the current PVP dynamic.

    However, ZOS could reduce the group size from 24 to 16 this would at least force large groups to fight against organized balling up. This change while most think it would have no effect is a visual message from ZOS that they want smaller organized game play. It changes none of the current combat mechanics and sends a clear message to the players.

    They need to become PRO ACTIVE with PVP or the game will flush itself down the WC as broken, unplayable, nonresponsive MMO's should be.

    and lets not forget the current game bugs that are re-appearing....even when fixes have been supposedly made.
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