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What's Next for the Crown Store?
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I'm curious as to what the end of November - December offerings will be.
Elk Mount perhaps?
Elk Mount perhaps?
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All PC/NA, Level 50 * Current Champion Points: 930
Cyndril - Bosmer Vampire Nightblade - Dual Wield Blades and Bow
Saryn Duskbringer - Altmer Vampire Sorcerer - Destro and Resto Staves
Valmion Hlaalu - Dunmer Templar Healer - Resto and Destroy Staves
Solus Lighthawke - Altmer DK Tank- Sword n' Board and Greatsword
Stitches-for-Riches - Argonian Templar Healer- Resto
Ashiran Zahuluu - Dunmer Stam Sorc - Dual Wield Blades and Bow
Aldmeri Dominion
Kivian Nightshade - Altmer Magicka NB - Destro/Resto Staves
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S'rala Sugar Claws - Khajiit Stamina Sorc - Dual Wield and Greatsword
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All PC/NA, Level 50 * Current Champion Points: 930
Cyndril - Bosmer Vampire Nightblade - Dual Wield Blades and Bow
Saryn Duskbringer - Altmer Vampire Sorcerer - Destro and Resto Staves
Valmion Hlaalu - Dunmer Templar Healer - Resto and Destroy Staves
Solus Lighthawke - Altmer DK Tank- Sword n' Board and Greatsword
Stitches-for-Riches - Argonian Templar Healer- Resto
Ashiran Zahuluu - Dunmer Stam Sorc - Dual Wield Blades and Bow
Aldmeri Dominion
Kivian Nightshade - Altmer Magicka NB - Destro/Resto Staves
Daggerfall Covenant
S'rala Sugar Claws - Khajiit Stamina Sorc - Dual Wield and Greatsword
Member of the closed early beta group, The Psijic Order
Guest on first ESO Live
My ESO fan art and comics
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Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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✭I heard getting gear becomes increasingly grindy with each DLC, therefore I guess it is time to introduce some means for the better people to conveniently pave their way to epic gear with dollars. I am not saying there should be gear the crown store. That would be pay to win, which is bad, right? But there could be mats packs or other components from which once could assemble gear by himself. That could be enough to fool P2W alarmists that no gear for cash scheme is underway. -
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I'd still be against it. I really don't want to let ZOS to think of it as ok to implement a gear grind in the game just because they put an 'alternate' method of obtaining it in the crown store. Really don't want to reinforce that grind mentality.I heard getting gear becomes increasingly grindy with each DLC, therefore I guess it is time to introduce some means for the better people to conveniently pave their way to epic gear with dollars. I am not saying there should be gear the crown store. That would be pay to win, which is bad, right? But there could be mats packs or other components from which once could assemble gear by himself. That could be enough to fool P2W alarmists that no gear for cash scheme is underway.
I also dislike the idea of gear being supplied in any form in the cash shop. Yes, yes, I know you said mats. But really, its just gear in an extra step.
[Pay money-->Get crown store mats---> craft gear with said mats] is still essentially equivalent to [Pay Money-->Get Gear] as far as i'm concerned. And of the high quality stuff, no less. I vote no for crown store mats/gear. -
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Edited by Gidorick on November 16, 2015 2:53AMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
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✭[Pay money-->Get crown store mats---> craft gear with said mats] is still essentially equivalent to [Pay Money-->Get Gear] as far as i'm concerned.
Yeah, it is, but people have not yet discovered it. It is the same as with pay money -> exp scroll -> more exp, therefore money -> exp, which is working fine, that intermediate step does the trick. -
CirithValaria✭✭✭✭SlayerSyrena wrote: »
Elk Mount perhaps?
I would love an elk mount!Edited by CirithValaria on November 16, 2015 12:11PMMotto:
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What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”
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Characters:@Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (M) | Lord of Light, Templar DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Hakrata Hekate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | NightPAWler, Nightblade DD - thief (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
Satiainen | Bosmer (F) | Hunter Chef, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
(900CP)
@Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
(180CP)
@CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
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Only if I can have an army of like... 5 or 6 of them following me. I want the Chub Loon armada.Shader_Shibes wrote: »Chub Loon pet!! -
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✭I heard getting gear becomes increasingly grindy with each DLC, therefore I guess it is time to introduce some means for the better people to conveniently pave their way to epic gear with dollars. I am not saying there should be gear the crown store. That would be pay to win, which is bad, right? But there could be mats packs or other components from which once could assemble gear by himself. That could be enough to fool P2W alarmists that no gear for cash scheme is underway.
They probably won't jump this far... yet. They have been "testing the waters" with crown store items, seeing what they can get away with by pushing the P2W envelope. Let's review:
- It started out with only purely cosmetic items: mounts, pets, costumes. Definitely not P2W at all.
- Then they added motifs. Still cosmetic, but since they could be obtained in game as well, by finding them or paying for them at a guild trader, a very weak argument could be made that they are "slightly" closer to the P2W side than the first group. By purchasing them from the crown stare, you save the gold needed to buy them in-game (or the time taken to farm them) and can potentially use them to make money by selling rare-appearance gear to others that can't make it. Still not P2W by most standards, but a small step in that direction.
- Consumables were also added. Getting a little closer, for much of the same reasons as the motifs. When you can choose to obtain something with either real money or in-game money (or time spent farming), that's the very definition of P2W. In this case, since it only applied to something as mundane as potions and xp boost scrolls (not end-game gear and such), it was generally still accepted as not being P2W.
- Next was the horse training. This is where I think we start getting closer. You can now out-right buy upgrades that would otherwise take you months to get normally. This is the typical P2W approach of putting in a time-sink, and then allowing a bypass with real money. But again, since it only affects mount speed and pack space, it could still be argued (though slightly more difficultly now) that is was not really P2W.
- Bag and Bank space. Just like horse training, but instead of bypassing a time-sink, you are bypassing an in-game gold cost.
So as you can see, each update to the crown store adds items that are getting incrementally closer to P2W. Whether they have actually crossed the threshold into P2W is arguable, but they are playing it safe enough that the majority of people would probably still let this stuff slide. But they have definitely ventured into the "gray area" of P2W.
I wouldn't expect to see them going all the way to "epic gear with dollars" anytime soon, but I would expect them to continue to push toward that goal, to see how far they can go before people really start to scream "P2W!" at them.
I'm thinking a next logical step will be something like "instant research" tokens that allow you to instantly research one crafting trait. Something that's one increment closer to P2W, but still arguably "not that bad" yet.
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✭I'm thinking a next logical step will be something like "instant research" tokens that allow you to instantly research one crafting trait. Something that's one increment closer to P2W, but still arguably "not that bad" yet.{Edited for typos}
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✭I think ZOS would be better off enhancing the value of the subscription for revenue, then adding basic items to the Crown Store over time (in addition to the DLC). Subscription incentives will matter more long term.
Forget about long term. Whales need to be milked while they are here. They could set eyes on some new, shiny thing and swim away at any moment with all their money! And while they can spend any arbitrary amount of money in th cash shop, they can not stack subscriptions. Oh, wait! I got an idea!Edited by JamilaRaj on November 16, 2015 2:27PM -
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I'm hoping for these two.
Players want stupid amounts of gold for these right now, and I do not see the price coming down anytime soon. It is cheaper and easier to pay for these in Crowns than it is to have to go out of my way doing something I don't like to grind out the over 2 million gold needed to buy all pieces for both of those motifs right now.Far too many characters to list any more.
