Play your own way

Calboy
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How to create a pvp stam sorc:
Play your own way, except make sure you have wrecking blow slotted because its your only viable dps ability because dw skills don't synergise with critical surge. Oh and while your at it slot almost all of the remaining 2h abilities because you have no other options available to you. Also don't forget to slot the only ultimate that benefits your weapon power in such a way that nothing else is worth it. For your 2nd bar, after you slot resolving vigor because its the only dedicated heal for stamina users and you will die faster without it, make sure you find space for 3 of the 18 sorcerer abilities that will actually benefit you without gimping you and throw on either poison arrow or steel tornado.

If you want to make the game even more boring, drop 2 abilities and slot the bound armaments toggle.

Logged in tonight and I have just lost all enthusiasm for this game and its boring metas.
  • Dracane
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    It's fairly hard to find space for Sorcerer abilities for both, magicka and stamina specs in order to profit from the passives.
    I know it's annoying, that Sorcerer relies more than other classes on using non-class abilities, because it lacks most things other classes have and has the least amount of appealing abilities.

    But it's still working somehow. Stamina Sorcerers can be quite lethal and I actually wish, there was a Magicka version of Vigor. because Vigor is actually overpowered in my opinion. Stamina Sorcerer at least has a good healing alternitive without being forced to slot a restoration staff.
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  • Skiserony
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It's fairly hard to find space for Sorcerer abilities for both, magicka and stamina specs in order to profit from the passives.
    I know it's annoying, that Sorcerer relies more than other classes on using non-class abilities, because it lacks most things other classes have and has the least amount of appealing abilities.

    But it's still working somehow. Stamina Sorcerers can be quite lethal and I actually wish, there was a Magicka version of Vigor. because Vigor is actually overpowered in my opinion. Stamina Sorcerer at least has a good healing alternitive without being forced to slot a restoration staff.

    Well, I don't know. A stam DK is also forced using a lot of skill outside their skill lines. This is both for the stam Sorc and DK. After all they're pretty lethal, because the 2H are pretty lethal. I'd be nice if there were some more viable options for both.

    On my DK I slot 2 DK skills and then Ferocious Leap as ulti, and that's what workes best for me. The healing of a DK is so bad in PvP now, that we're also forced to use Vigor and Rally. Which are pretty strong, but a DK used to be able to survive on his own good, it's part of the DK.

    But still, I come across both very devastating stam Sorcs and DKs. They just don't have the very well synergizing class with stamina builds as the Templar and especially NB.
  • bowmanz607
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    Calboy wrote: »
    How to create a pvp stam sorc:
    Play your own way, except make sure you have wrecking blow slotted because its your only viable dps ability because dw skills don't synergise with critical surge. Oh and while your at it slot almost all of the remaining 2h abilities because you have no other options available to you. Also don't forget to slot the only ultimate that benefits your weapon power in such a way that nothing else is worth it. For your 2nd bar, after you slot resolving vigor because its the only dedicated heal for stamina users and you will die faster without it, make sure you find space for 3 of the 18 sorcerer abilities that will actually benefit you without gimping you and throw on either poison arrow or steel tornado.

    If you want to make the game even more boring, drop 2 abilities and slot the bound armaments toggle.

    Logged in tonight and I have just lost all enthusiasm for this game and its boring metas.

    Play your own way does not mean play your own way and be as effective as other ways. There will always be a "best build" for what your trying to do. You choose to conform to that build. You can run any weapon. You are not limited to 2h abilites. Sure 2h gives more survivability which is better for 1vX. However you can still run sword and board for more defense. Yoh can run dw etc. Just because you limit yourself to the cookie cutter build does not mean it 8s the only effective way. Sure play with a bow and sword and board and you won't take down enemies as quicky but can stand your ground easier. Again play as you want does not equal being as effective at what you are trying to accomplish.
  • MrGigglypants
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    You can essentially template a PvP stam build on every class people are just qqing over passives. They want to cap out weapon damage on sorcs is all. Bar 1 engage spam DMG ability cc execute aoe bar 2 aoe/anti cloak armour buff rally vigor defensive ability/ teleport cloak flap whatever. The main complaints I see as viable amongst sorcs and dks is being forced into a cast time DMG ability and no real class execute. The DMG ability bring something unique to night blade though so kind of self justifying in a sense. In open world cyro stam builds are balanced with nightblades having innate 1v1 advantages sorcs and temps having 1vX advantages and Dks well maybe you could use a buff to searing strike making damage apply on removal/cleanse so you would have an interesting punishment mechanic and gain a needed burst option (stam only morph). Sorry for the wall.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    i agree. i blame the dueling community. no set diversity or experimenting with different setups.

    however the blame does fall on zos. many skills are just not worth the trouble.

    play the meta or handicap yourself. i choose the 2nd optiin since its more fun.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on November 13, 2015 1:52AM
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  • Alucardo
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    I wonder how many builds look similar to my own, apart from the Ultimate I guess.

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    Why do I use two Storm Atronachs? Well, I don't use Ultimates very often with this build, and having the atronach slotted gives me increased Health regen, so why the hell not?
    If I'm solo, I will replace surge with Vigor for a more sustained heal. Surge is great for rushing busy keeps and just doing your helicopter with steel tornado.
    My stam DK setup is somewhat similar also.

    Edit: forgot to mention, another benefit of the Atronach is to give me extra weapon damage just for having a sorc ability slotted. So that's a plus!
    Edited by Alucardo on November 13, 2015 2:52AM
  • MisterBigglesworth
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    @Alucardo If you didn't need snare immunity you could try Thundering Presence instead of Boundless Storm so that it does more damage, and swap out Shuffle in favor of Quick Cloak, which grants you the movement speed plus more AOE. Good for farming!
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  • Calboy
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    @Alucardo you already have BA slotted so you don't benefit from slotting storm atronach twice or am I missing something?
  • Alucardo
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    @Alucardo If you didn't need snare immunity you could try Thundering Presence instead of Boundless Storm so that it does more damage, and swap out Shuffle in favor of Quick Cloak, which grants you the movement speed plus more AOE. Good for farming!

    Cheers for the tips man. I like Boundless Storm because I'm not using a lot of magicka with this build with the exception of surge, and I like tiny magicka sinks so I'm not digging into my stamina constantly (steel tornado spam can be expensive!). The 8 second speed boost is really useful too. I think it's only 5 secs with Quick Cloak?
  • Alucardo
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    Calboy wrote: »
    @Alucardo you already have BA slotted so you don't benefit from slotting storm atronach twice or am I missing something?

    No, you're right. Like I said, I don't really use ultimates much, and I just like having my atronach on speed dial.
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