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SPOILER ALERT Main Orsinium quest

Marrtha
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Hello!

So I just finished the main quest.. And I am was honestly shocked.. By how great it turned out to be. I never expected the turn of events nor how emotional it would get. It felt reaaally good killing the Forge Mother and Kurog in the end.

But.. I saw Varen. And I wonder why. This bit got me most intrigued. What does he mean? Did everyone get to talk to him? I spared his life back at Coldharbour so he mentions that his time here is running short. What does he say to those who sacrificed him? Like... Wow.. I am mostly in awe because I really liked him, and still do. That one was really unexpected.

But good job with the story ZOS, I am pleasantly surprised!
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  • Alphashado
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    I really enjoyed it myself. One of the best, if not the best quest story in the game. I didn't care for the puzzles much. They tend to irritate me. Not because they are hard, but because if I wanted a puzzle I would buy a rubix cube instead of an MMO. But the story was outstanding. Very fun quest.
  • Johngo0036
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    I didnt spare his life in coldharbour,
    and the old soak spoke to me as well, after the quest....

    I loved the puzzles, reminded me of skyrim yet again..

    Guess we are in for some more adventure then...
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  • Volkodav
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    I hated to have to make the choice of who to sacrifice.If I took either one of the others,their partner would have to live alone for the rest of their lives.I really didnt want to kill Varen.And I wont next time. I like him too much.
    Edited by Volkodav on November 11, 2015 11:25AM
  • AngryNord
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    But.. I saw Varen. And I wonder why. This bit got me most intrigued. What does he mean? Did everyone get to talk to him? I spared his life back at Coldharbour so he mentions that his time here is running short. What does he say to those who sacrificed him? Like... Wow.. I am mostly in awe because I really liked him, and still do. That one was really unexpected.
    He appears in ghost form then
  • Marrtha
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Marrtha wrote: »
    But.. I saw Varen. And I wonder why. This bit got me most intrigued. What does he mean? Did everyone get to talk to him? I spared his life back at Coldharbour so he mentions that his time here is running short. What does he say to those who sacrificed him? Like... Wow.. I am mostly in awe because I really liked him, and still do. That one was really unexpected.
    He appears in ghost form then

    He appears just like he appears to you to summon you to Harborage.

    But yeah, this DLC really delivered.

    I don't enjoy puzzles either and was pissed at the entire quest of deciphering Eveli's letter (LOL, I know, I'm stupid). But overall the main story was amazing. The side quests have all been fun so far, too! Wrothgar is a great zone.
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  • Enodoc
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    What does he mean? Did everyone get to talk to him? I spared his life back at Coldharbour so he mentions that his time here is running short.
    In the first instance, he is foreshadowing future content. Sotha Sil's Clockwork City is known to be in production, as is the Spiral Skein (Mephala's realm). I thought this was a great way of hinting what is to come.
    Yes, everyone gets to talk to him. If you sacrifice him, he basically says yes I'm dead, but I'm here anyway. It would be interesting to know if he turns up if you haven't completed the Coldharbour Main Quest yet.
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  • Marrtha
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    Marrtha wrote: »
    What does he mean? Did everyone get to talk to him? I spared his life back at Coldharbour so he mentions that his time here is running short.
    In the first instance, he is foreshadowing future content. Sotha Sil's Clockwork City is known to be in production, as is the Spiral Skein (Mephala's realm). I thought this was a great way of hinting what is to come.
    Yes, everyone gets to talk to him. If you sacrifice him, he basically says yes I'm dead, but I'm here anyway. It would be interesting to know if he turns up if you haven't completed the Coldharbour Main Quest yet.

    I'd guess he does, that is the way he appears when giving a quest. He is mentioning a great war among Daedra, so I guess the upcoming/planned DLC's won't be as peaceful? Anyhow, I am always looking forward to schemes.

    Still can't believe how much of an impact his appearance there made on me. I am still under the impression. I felt like hugging him.
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  • JD2013
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    War. In. Oblivion. Just let that stop and sink in. I have long been waiting for that story to happen in an Elder Scrolls game. War between the Daedric Princes with Nirn caught between.

    ZOS has my money for the forseeable future with this story. If Orsinium is anything to go by, it will definitely be something to look forward to.
    Sweetrolls for all!

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  • Marrtha
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    War. In. Oblivion. Just let that stop and sink in. I have long been waiting for that story to happen in an Elder Scrolls game. War between the Daedric Princes with Nirn caught between.

    ZOS has my money for the forseeable future with this story. If Orsinium is anything to go by, it will definitely be something to look forward to.

    I know right?!
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  • JD2013
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    War. In. Oblivion. Just let that stop and sink in. I have long been waiting for that story to happen in an Elder Scrolls game. War between the Daedric Princes with Nirn caught between.

    ZOS has my money for the forseeable future with this story. If Orsinium is anything to go by, it will definitely be something to look forward to.

    I know right?!

    Every time I think of it, I geek out a lot haha. Gods I do love the Elder Scrolls and its lore and stories.
    Sweetrolls for all!

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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • SantieClaws
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    This one does not like the puzzles. Moving levers and pushing buttons does not work so well if you have the paws.

    This one assumed Mr Ghostie Varen was asking Santie to fetch in his laundry or do his shopping again so she was slightly pleased when he said he would not be calling on Santie's services again.

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  • b92303008rwb17_ESO
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    Now that you have merged several "Loading Screen" issue threads to keep the topic of discussion in one place and since there are already a bunch of "praise ZOS" threads, making this one rather pointless, Please do the same to it.
    @zos_brett
  • Marrtha
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    Now that you have merged several "Loading Screen" issue threads to keep the topic of discussion in one place and since there are already a bunch of "praise ZOS" threads, making this one rather pointless, Please do the same to it.
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    Pointless? I wanted to discuss what people thought about seeing Varen again, as well as the story twist. I was quite surprised when I realized Alga was a ***, and I got mad (oh the pleasure of killing the priestess' assassin), it's just that no one has mentioned this bit yet. We are stuck at Varen at the moment. I would also like to point out that this is not a 'praise' thread, it is people getting excited about the story. Now please pack up whatever you came here with and take it someplace else. Also, the storywriters don't have much to do with the programmers and guys who ar in charge of hardware, at least that would be my guess. Can't see why those teams would mix.

    The relevant threads about bugs as well as those 'omg qq fix this' are a different pair of socks. Until someone actually finds the source of the issue for the loading screens, a million qq threads about it WON'T HELP, unless you are as smart and witty as your post was, then you and all the other qqers can go and get a job at ZOS and fix it already. I don't really mind the qq threads like those, I just avoid them, because they are only good for venting frustration out. And instead of spilling negativity around, I prefer spilling some flowers and bunnies and cookies. Now excuse you.

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  • Marrtha
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    This one does not like the puzzles. Moving levers and pushing buttons does not work so well if you have the paws.

    This one assumed Mr Ghostie Varen was asking Santie to fetch in his laundry or do his shopping again so she was slightly pleased when he said he would not be calling on Santie's services again.

    Yours with paws
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    No, Santie, Mr Ghostie would just ask you to go save the world, and maybe fix his ***! ;)
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  • BugCollector
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    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).
    May knowledge guide you to enlightenment
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    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).

    But against who?
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  • BugCollector
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).

    But against who?

    Probably against Tamriel. My guess is they will team up, because they saw the failure that is only one Prince. (Molag Bal)
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  • Marrtha
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).

    But against who?

    Probably against Tamriel. My guess is they will team up, because they saw the failure that is only one Prince. (Molag Bal)

    I'll miss Varen..

    and ehm... Nobody talking about the new King or anything though :/
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  • RinOkumara
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    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).
    I think its the opposite, he says the daedric princes are "choosing sides"
  • DaveMoeDee
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    War. In. Oblivion. Just let that stop and sink in. I have long been waiting for that story to happen in an Elder Scrolls game. War between the Daedric Princes with Nirn caught between.

    ZOS has my money for the forseeable future with this story. If Orsinium is anything to go by, it will definitely be something to look forward to.

    Yeah, Orsinium was great. Better than I expected.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    RinOkumara wrote: »
    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).
    I think its the opposite, he says the daedric princes are "choosing sides"

    My thoughts when I was listening was that those 3 were one side.
  • ListerJMC
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    Marrtha wrote: »
    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).

    But against who?

    Probably against Tamriel. My guess is they will team up, because they saw the failure that is only one Prince. (Molag Bal)

    Didn't Meridia imply that the Vestige's actions assisted Molag Bal in his plans to dominate Tamriel, though? I got the impression that Molag Bal is going to go off and recover, these Daedric Princes will have a turn at causing some trouble, then Molag Bal is going to use the chaos to launch plan B (or C? I haven't done Imperial City yet). I mean Boethiah at least does have a rivalry with Molag Bal.
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  • Calippe_Hac
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    :) Yes thumbs up for the storyline.
  • americansteel
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    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).

    these princes do not get along with molag bal and mehrunes dagon who want nirn destroyed or enslaved.
    according to lore there have been multiple wars between daedric princes and their realms, i have a feeling this war will have mortals doing the bidding of mephala boethiah and nocturnal, i also think well be seeing more of meridia and azura, these 2 will not let creatia slip away from mortals only the time devourer can do this. good lore none the less cant wait.
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  • americansteel
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    RinOkumara wrote: »
    It seems like three Daedric Princes will work together. According to my knowledge of lore, these will be Boethiah (the great deceiver), Mephala (the sower of discord) and Nocturnal (the patron of darkness)).
    I think its the opposite, he says the daedric princes are "choosing sides"

    the alliances fight for control with aid from daedric princes to grab IC, only to be dissolved and later comes. the shezarinne a (man) who would once again unify tamriel. it was this man who saved nirn from its unbinding, lorkhans job is to ensure creatia continues to exist.
    i might be wrong AD-azura DC-meridia EP-mephala or boethiah due to the dunmer.
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  • Alucardo
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    It was a sad ending imo. King Kurog was a good leader, who cared about unity and his people. Unfortunately his mother took advantage of that, pushing him into doing things I don't believe he would normally do. She brainwashed him into thinking it was the right thing for the good of the Orsimer.
    Seeing him lay dead was really upsetting, for me at least. During my time in Wrothgar I really grew fond of his character.

    I think this is why I enjoyed Orsinium. The story was so good you really get to know the characters and become attached, or despise them. I never felt neutral because I didn't care - there was always an opinion to be had.

    Amazing stuff.
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