Players cheating

shelliebelly04

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance ... I would like to talk about how players are cheating in the alliance war.
I just witnessed an absolutely 100% do doubt case of someone doing so. ( IMO)

A player, I won't state their name because I know it's not allowed( however I do have it written down) , was playing with a character on the DC, took one of the scrolls and ran back towards EP territory and into one of the buildings( not a tower, just one of the random buildings) and waited until a large group of EP showed up, got killed and they took the scroll. The person was with a small group of DC as well.

So I'm wondering, is there any legitimate reason for them to be doing this( points wise or any other reason?)

Also, is there any disciplinary action that ZOS will take if they find that in their opinion it was cheating? I can't see them encouraging this type of play.

I am new to ESO, however I am a long time player of TES games ( have played since TES 3)

Nirnrot

Sadly...they do allow this type of gameplay. They call it campaign politics or some dumb euphemism for down right dirty cheating. I have seen many posts on the subject. It sucks but according to ZoS, it's a valid tactic.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Seems as if you have seen a (bad) attempt of scroll farming. Its a common tactic to take a scroll to a place you can defend easiely instead of securing it in a keep. Usually many enemy players try to get the scroll and if you do it right, you can fight them for a long time and get a lot of alliance points if you know what you're doing.
Even though this behavior often doesn't help your alliance it's allowed and won't lead to any disciplinary action.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Yup.... Elitest arse hole PvP guilds run PvP and if your not apart of it you will be left out and loose. Sad truth about PvP how it is runned by "those players" and nothing we can do about it unless you your self have a giant well know pvp guild and challenge them. But if you win then the pvp guilds will just move to a different server ruin that one too and so on.

Which is why we need a no guild pvp server.

DannyLV702

Unfortunately this is allowed. If you search the thread, you will find about 4-5 other threads about the same DC player doing the same, but against EP. I'm assuming EP is starting to do the same now since it's been clarified that this is allowed

Reznique

This is called AP farming.

or farming mindless zerg trains, as you wish

NativeJoe

You think this is the worst?

Multifaction guilds often do little AP farms to get all their members up in Pvp ranks, by picking a resource and having everyone go there for a private boost to the participants. this tactic is also used to create their own personal guild emperor groups. Can you get 400k ap in one day? well using defensive ticks and whatnot people break the system all the time. ensuring no normal player can achieve it.

There are lots of exploits going on right now. point blank, as of 11/7/2015 the game is Broken.

shelliebelly04

Thank you guys for your responses! I greatly appreciate it!

It sounds like it is more ap farming than cheating then probably, I didn't catch if the people were in a guild together, but it was probably only 8-10 players... And it blows because it gave one of the other alliances the upper hand a bit.

Only playing non vet blackwater so far, I bet it's even more annoying when your in a guild doing a longer more serious campaign as well....

Again, thank you guys for your insight

DannyLV702

It's playing dirty

LegendaryChef

Nothing wrong with a bit of scroll farming!

I miss the days of the AP mountain beside chalman, you could sit up there all day slaughtering the idiots that used the door lol

imredneckson

shelliebelly04 wrote: »

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance ... I would like to talk about how players are cheating in the alliance war.
I just witnessed an absolutely 100% do doubt case of someone doing so. ( IMO)

A player, I won't state their name because I know it's not allowed( however I do have it written down) , was playing with a character on the DC, took one of the scrolls and ran back towards EP territory and into one of the buildings( not a tower, just one of the random buildings) and waited until a large group of EP showed up, got killed and they took the scroll. The person was with a small group of DC as well.

So I'm wondering, is there any legitimate reason for them to be doing this( points wise or any other reason?)

Also, is there any disciplinary action that ZOS will take if they find that in their opinion it was cheating? I can't see them encouraging this type of play.

I am new to ESO, however I am a long time player of TES games ( have played since TES 3)

Players are allowed to do that also scrolls are to players like crack to an addict. They may also have been trying to farm with their group

Rylana

That small group of players was trying to use the scroll as bait to draw in EP players so they could kill them over and over inside of a safe choke.

Unfortunately they got more than they bargained for and lost the scroll in the process. Not cheating.



Alternatively, they might have been giving the scroll away (as you insinuate), however this is not consider cheating according to brain wheeler. The impetus is on you to find enough people to wipe out the EP they are delivering it to. If it was intended that low-ball play like this was not allowed, it would not be allowed. But it has been this way for almost two years.

RedTalon

Players cheating nah never, welcome to the elder exploits online.

It is a lot better now, remember to take screen shots, and file reports. But never name or shame or explain the ongoing cheats/exploits and such on the forums, that can get you in trouble.

Just my two cents, may the dreadic prince of vengeance be with you

Nafirian

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of scroll farming!

I miss the days of the AP mountain beside chalman, you could sit up there all day slaughtering the idiots that used the door lol

I remember those days zzorr ;_; the angry 30 man zergs that came for the scroll and got rofl wiped.

Master_Kas

Nafirian wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of scroll farming!

I miss the days of the AP mountain beside chalman, you could sit up there all day slaughtering the idiots that used the door lol

I remember those days zzorr ;_; the angry 30 man zergs that came for the scroll and got rofl wiped.

CHEATERS!

BigTone

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Which is why we need a no guild pvp server.

jnjdun_ESO

BigTone wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Which is why we need a no guild pvp server.

He is serious...and don’t call him Shirley.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

NativeJoe wrote: »

You think this is the worst?

Multifaction guilds often do little AP farms to get all their members up in Pvp ranks, by picking a resource and having everyone go there for a private boost to the participants. this tactic is also used to create their own personal guild emperor groups. Can you get 400k ap in one day? well using defensive ticks and whatnot people break the system all the time. ensuring no normal player can achieve it.

There are lots of exploits going on right now. point blank, as of 11/7/2015 the game is Broken.

Game was broken as of 4/4/2014. It continues to be broken in various states until it finally collapses under the weight of it own poor gameplay design and spaghetti coding and above all else, lack of support and maintenance.

Lord-Gibson

Cheating is when you have 5 people working together where one of them is from a separate faction. (I have heard this from many people but have yet to see it with me own eyes.) 3 people from other faction will strip down to just undies while 1 person from other faction kills them in a disclosed area of Cyrodiil. The fourth person from the 3 dead players will revive them and then the rinse repeat is started, thus in turn creates AP for the one player from said faction.

Nafirian

Master_Kas wrote: »

Nafirian wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of scroll farming!

I miss the days of the AP mountain beside chalman, you could sit up there all day slaughtering the idiots that used the door lol

I remember those days zzorr ;_; the angry 30 man zergs that came for the scroll and got rofl wiped.

CHEATERS!

No please

Hammy01

Lord-Gibson wrote: »

Cheating is when you have 5 people working together where one of them is from a separate faction. (I have heard this from many people but have yet to see it with me own eyes.) 3 people from other faction will strip down to just undies while 1 person from other faction kills them in a disclosed area of Cyrodiil. The fourth person from the 3 dead players will revive them and then the rinse repeat is started, thus in turn creates AP for the one player from said faction.

Stuff like this used to happen in Lotro monster play all the time... people suddenly became rank 6/7 or more within a weeks time. This will most likely always be a problem in realm vs realm pvp.

However, I thought I heard that AP gain goes to nothing if you kill the same player / players over and over again?

myrrrorb14_ESO

So if my friends want a scroll all I have to do is log onto a character of the appropriate faction. Grab said scroll and walk towards the keep my friends want it in?

Since I stole the scroll from my faction, they can't attack me. And this is okay with the devs?

Seems legit to me...

mchermie

Lord-Gibson wrote: »

Cheating is when you have 5 people working together where one of them is from a separate faction. (I have heard this from many people but have yet to see it with me own eyes.) 3 people from other faction will strip down to just undies while 1 person from other faction kills them in a disclosed area of Cyrodiil. The fourth person from the 3 dead players will revive them and then the rinse repeat is started, thus in turn creates AP for the one player from said faction.

If you kill the same player over and over again he/she wont be worth a single alliance point. So that is a horrible way of farming ap

PhatGrimReaper

mchermie wrote: »

Lord-Gibson wrote: »

Cheating is when you have 5 people working together where one of them is from a separate faction. (I have heard this from many people but have yet to see it with me own eyes.) 3 people from other faction will strip down to just undies while 1 person from other faction kills them in a disclosed area of Cyrodiil. The fourth person from the 3 dead players will revive them and then the rinse repeat is started, thus in turn creates AP for the one player from said faction.

If you kill the same player over and over again he/she wont be worth a single alliance point. So that is a horrible way of farming ap

That's why the one is probably close to a resource/keep/outpost...... just guessing.

Teargrants

All I see is "gray areas" and "creative use of game mechanics", next.

I say we need to move on and reexamine Ezareth now that he plays sorc again, it's most likely time to discipline him once more for "creating movement not otherwise permitted by game mechanics".

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Unfortunately, this is going to get worse.

ZOS has stated that in the future, they will be doing away with the alliance restrictions on accounts. That means that all of your characters can be on the same campaign without regard to the faction. There will be nothing to prevent someone from making an opposing faction character so they can spy on the other factions.

Winnamine

shelliebelly04 wrote: »

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance ... I would like to talk about how players are cheating in the alliance war.
I just witnessed an absolutely 100% do doubt case of someone doing so. ( IMO)

A player, I won't state their name because I know it's not allowed( however I do have it written down) , was playing with a character on the DC, took one of the scrolls and ran back towards EP territory and into one of the buildings( not a tower, just one of the random buildings) and waited until a large group of EP showed up, got killed and they took the scroll. The person was with a small group of DC as well.

So I'm wondering, is there any legitimate reason for them to be doing this( points wise or any other reason?)

Also, is there any disciplinary action that ZOS will take if they find that in their opinion it was cheating? I can't see them encouraging this type of play.

I am new to ESO, however I am a long time player of TES games ( have played since TES 3)

He may have been trying to hand the scroll off to EP. Maybe bc he's a spy or they're his friends, or whatever. Or possibly bc he thought a deal with EP was advantageous to DC somehow. For example, if DC has an EP scroll, but AD has most the map and emp, DC might consider giving EP their scroll back so that both factions can focus their attention on the stronger faction, AD. Otherwise, half of EP will always focus on getting that scroll back even as both EP and DC lose every keep.

But more likely he was just trying to farm AP with it and got rekt.