Pro Tip...

Sting864

If you are in a pledge group, show some social skills... It's really a richard move to leave the party before everyone is out of the dungeon. For one thing, if you leave the group, no one can port to you (in my case...) in Elden Hollow to turn in the quest. No big deal, but it's like me holding the door for my girlfriend... I don't HAVE to do it... But it's a pretty richard move if I don't...
Also, pledges aren't speed runs... (Those are called "Trials...") Looting is still a thing, but if the group disbands... you get kicked out of the dungeon... Perhaps "Rushins" don't understand the meaning of the word, "Pledge..." When you join, you "pledge" to accomplish a task as a group of adventurers... so act like you want to be a true Undaunted...

Shadesofkin

Right? I did one run with a group for Darkshade and they all wanted to run and die to get to each "important" boss and then to the final. What on earth?

I immediately said no thanks when I realized what they were doing. I told them that I just couldn't justify running like that.

Phinix1

Save yourself the annoyance and play with a premade guild group or friends. Most modern gamers are spoiled kids that their parents put on video games because it's cheaper than daycare, and they just want to rush through everything and fap their power points like gobbling candy-coated failure, then come on the forums and troll about it.

Jura23

I always leave the group when we are still in. Why? Because then the game will move me wherever I was before I ported into the dungeon.

But I have another thing. Just today when running stupid silver pledge I poped up my Templar healing ultimate at some point. Then I got a whisper to "stop healing". Right, I let it go and it's true the healer did a good job after all, but seriously, don't take it so seriously. Silver is supposed to be casual.

Reznique

Generally, you hold a door for your friends/girlfriends, but random people in pledges are not exactly your friends you know.

Some people just want to get it done and over with so they can do something else

gibous

Social skills could also be not wasting others' time by dawdling when everyone is just trying to get a gold key or some undaunted XP.

Also, if pledges (dungeons) aren't speed runs - why are there speed run achievements for them?

If you're in any guilds, it's really easy to find someone to port to - you don't have to rely on the 3 others in your group.

As others have said, sounds like you'd be best off joining a guild that enjoys more chill/casual play. Nothing wrong with that, but you shouldn't assume your POV is correct when it comes to pugging it.

Reverb

For the record, this isn't a "pro tip", it's a self serving request. A pro tip is typically a hint or valuable advice that will benefit the person you are extending the tip to, not a request for people to do things in a way that benefits you, despite possibly being contrary to what's best for them.

PBpsy

Pro tip!!! Go from front to back never from back to front.

Tryxus

Pro tip: putting "pro tip" in the topic title will surely get the attention of ppl

eliisra

I usually type "thanks for the group guys" than I wait until I get some kind of response. That gives plenty of time to ask for crown if someone wants to go look for a lorebook, explore, hand in quest or whatever.

But if no one types anything I'll just leave group, even though they're still in the dungeons. I have better things to do once the final boss is dead.

Epona222

"Pro tip" - none of us are "pros" at this game - pro is short for professional, which means you get paid for doing a sport or game. No matter how good any of our number are, I don't believe that there are any arenas of competition for ESO where one could legitimately claim to play it as a 'pro' sport.

Malmai

Sting864 wrote: »

If you are in a pledge group, show some social skills... It's really a richard move to leave the party before everyone is out of the dungeon. For one thing, if you leave the group, no one can port to you (in my case...) in Elden Hollow to turn in the quest. No big deal, but it's like me holding the door for my girlfriend... I don't HAVE to do it... But it's a pretty richard move if I don't...
Also, pledges aren't speed runs... (Those are called "Trials...") Looting is still a thing, but if the group disbands... you get kicked out of the dungeon... Perhaps "Rushins" don't understand the meaning of the word, "Pledge..." When you join, you "pledge" to accomplish a task as a group of adventurers... so act like you want to be a true Undaunted...

Well people are tired of the same old crap all over so they just want to get that Helm/Key and do their own business. Nobody wants to sit in dungeon for 5 hours and teach people cmon, thats why you have guilds to learn there....

A V16 guy who was in gold pledge and he asked what is Fungal Grotto and how can he get there... OK

Xjcon

If you click to join a group of random people expect to find players with random skill.

myrrrorb14_ESO

Pro tip

You can teleport to someone in the group who is still in the dungeon with you. You will end up at the entrance and can walk out.

You can also teleport to guild mates and friends in your list. For a small fee you can teleport to any way shrine.

Sting864

gibous wrote: »

Social skills could also be not wasting others' time by dawdling when everyone is just trying to get a gold key or some undaunted XP.

Also, if pledges (dungeons) aren't speed runs - why are there speed run achievements for them?

I've never heard of achievements for speed in pledges... I think that's a figment of some "rushin's" imagination...

Also, looting is not dawdling... I can see how "casual" gamers and button-smashers don't want to take advantage of ALL a dungeon offers...

As I said, "holding the door" is no big deal, if people want to only do it for people they know, whatever... I'm just saying not doing it is a selfish, richard move....

Pro tip (I never said Pro at what... I COULD mean Professional game developer...)
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lolo_01b16_ESO

Sting864 wrote: »

gibous wrote: »

Social skills could also be not wasting others' time by dawdling when everyone is just trying to get a gold key or some undaunted XP.

Also, if pledges (dungeons) aren't speed runs - why are there speed run achievements for them?

I've never heard of achievements for speed in pledges... I think that's a figment of some "rushin's" imagination...

Just because you haven't found them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. There are speed run achivements for all veteran dungeons, the old ones need to be done in 20 minutes, coh, coa and wgt in 30 minutes and icp in 45 minuts.

Jura23

Malmai wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

If you are in a pledge group, show some social skills... It's really a richard move to leave the party before everyone is out of the dungeon. For one thing, if you leave the group, no one can port to you (in my case...) in Elden Hollow to turn in the quest. No big deal, but it's like me holding the door for my girlfriend... I don't HAVE to do it... But it's a pretty richard move if I don't...
Also, pledges aren't speed runs... (Those are called "Trials...") Looting is still a thing, but if the group disbands... you get kicked out of the dungeon... Perhaps "Rushins" don't understand the meaning of the word, "Pledge..." When you join, you "pledge" to accomplish a task as a group of adventurers... so act like you want to be a true Undaunted...

Well people are tired of the same old crap all over so they just want to get that Helm/Key and do their own business. Nobody wants to sit in dungeon for 5 hours and teach people cmon, thats why you have guilds to learn there....

A V16 guy who was in gold pledge and he asked what is Fungal Grotto and how can he get there... OK

lol, maybe he was trolling.

Sting864

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

gibous wrote: »

Social skills could also be not wasting others' time by dawdling when everyone is just trying to get a gold key or some undaunted XP.

Also, if pledges (dungeons) aren't speed runs - why are there speed run achievements for them?

I've never heard of achievements for speed in pledges... I think that's a figment of some "rushin's" imagination...

Just because you haven't found them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. There are speed run achivements for all veteran dungeons, the old ones need to be done in 20 minutes, coh, coa and wgt in 30 minutes and icp in 45 minuts.

Vet. dungeons≠pledges.... Another good reason why I do primarily NORMAL pledges...

Reverb

Sting864 wrote: »

I've never heard of achievements for speed in pledges... I think that's a figment of some "rushin's" imagination...

There are speed achievements for all vet dungeons. The fact that you would accuse someone of making this up further illustrates that you are self absorbed and trying to engineer others' behavior in a way that only benefits you, showing a complete lack of empathy or even acknowledging the validity of other points of view.

Also, looting is not dawdling... I can see how "casual" gamers and button-smashers don't want to take advantage of ALL a dungeon offers...

Looking in every nook and cranny to get every provisioning ingredient from every barrel is certainly dawdling in the eyes of some. They may have other commitments, they may have run that dungeon a hundred times and just want to go on with their gaming day, they may dislike you personally and want to leave the instance asap - there are plenty of reasons to disband a group as soon as the last objective is completed, yes you dismiss them all as "richards" because they aren't doing what you want. How do you think you are seen by others in this scenario?

Pro tip (I never said Pro at what... I COULD mean Professional game developer...)
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And since you are neither a pro game dev, nor giving tips to game devs, its still a pointless title and deserves to be mocked. That you would try to defend its use puts you in legion with the idiots in the corporate world that sling buzzwords around completely out of context, and feel proud of themselves for doing it, while oblivious to the eyerolls from all of their colleagues.

Sting864

Malmai wrote: »

Well people are tired of the same old crap all over so they just want to get that Helm/Key and do their own business. Nobody wants to sit in dungeon for 5 hours and teach people cmon, thats why you have guilds to learn there....

Not being a Richard has nothing to do with teaching people.... In fact, I'd rather Richards didn't teach people, but they could still not just get theirs and ignore others...

Sting864

Xjcon wrote: »

If you click to join a group of random people expect to find players with random skill.

As stated in the OP, there are obviously workarounds, it's still a Richard move....

Sting864

Reverb wrote: »

For the record, this isn't a "pro tip", it's a self serving request. A pro tip is typically a hint or valuable advice that will benefit the person you are extending the tip to, not a request for people to do things in a way that benefits you, despite possibly being contrary to what's best for them.

Hardly self-serving if it encourages doing things for others.... I never said, "Do it for me..." Rather, I believe I described it as, "no big deal..."
Paying attention is valuable advice...

Sting864

Reverb wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

I've never heard of achievements for speed in pledges... I think that's a figment of some "rushin's" imagination...

There are speed achievements for all vet dungeons. WHAT DID I SAY? VET. DUNGEON ≠ PLEDGES... Also, I don't think you understand what an "Undaunted pledge" is. The fact that you would accuse someone of making this up further illustrates that you are self absorbed and trying to engineer others' behavior in a way that only benefits you, showing a complete lack of empathy or even acknowledging the validity of other points of view.

Also, looting is not dawdling... I can see how "casual" gamers and button-smashers don't want to take advantage of ALL a dungeon offers...

Looking in every nook and cranny to get every provisioning ingredient from every barrel is certainly dawdling in the eyes of some. They may have other commitments, they may have run that dungeon a hundred times and just want to go on with their gaming day, they may dislike you personally and want to leave the instance asap - there are plenty of reasons to disband a group as soon as the last objective is completed, yes you dismiss them all as "richards" because they aren't doing what you want. How do you think you are seen by others in this scenario?

Pro tip (I never said Pro at what... I COULD mean Professional game developer...)
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And since you are neither a pro game dev, nor giving tips to game devs, its still a pointless title and deserves to be mocked. That you would try to defend its use puts you in legion with the idiots in the corporate world that sling buzzwords around completely out of context, and feel proud of themselves for doing it, while oblivious to the eyerolls from all of their colleagues.

Pro tip (I never said Pro at what... I COULD mean Professional game developer...)
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I never claimed any of that, you ASSume too much....

The bottom line is: It's a Richard move to not think of others....

lathbury

why dont you want people to leave group after finishing?

Sting864

lathbury wrote: »

why dont you want people to leave group after finishing?

Pro tip:
READ OP

Leon119

Oblivious eso player question:
Whats a "richard move" and where does it come from ?

Sting864

Leon119 wrote: »

Oblivious eso player question:
Whats a "richard move" and where does it come from ?

If one understands the shortened form of "richard" (besides Rick or Ricky) I'm sure they can figure it out...

OrphanHelgen

I will be honest and say that I personal enjoy a quick pledge run, because I seriously have done over 1000 pledges. I do them 4 times a day, sometimes both silver and gold, but usually only golds.
But of course I never leave group without saying goodbye and have a nice day. And if I see someone want to explore the pots and crates round, I slow down my speed.

Shilling

Phinix1 wrote: »

Save yourself the annoyance and play with a premade guild group or friends. Most modern gamers are spoiled kids that their parents put on video games because it's cheaper than daycare, and they just want to rush through everything and fap their power points like gobbling candy-coated failure, then come on the forums and troll about it.

What's wrong with you dude?

Leifnier

I usually only run the pledges with my guild mates because running with randoms from elden/ craglorn or elsewhere is just too unbearably slow. I'm just trying to get the gold key as fast as I can so I can go sleep or do something else and one person just wants to run and find every lootable jar or urn or whatever in the instance so they can get 300 gold total. That's fine if you want to do that, just let the group know ahead of time so people that don't want to spend the better part of an hour can leave.

And like everyone said, just travel to someone in your guild. If by some chance no one is where you want to be, just shell out the 143g, that's a drop in the bucket.

I don't have anything wrong with that playstyle, just make sure everyone in the group has that same one. You are the minority, and you're best off finding a guild that feels the same. Otherwise you will always be annoyed, and others annoyed at you.

MrDerrikk

Epona222 wrote: »

"Pro tip" - none of us are "pros" at this game - pro is short for professional, which means you get paid for doing a sport or game. No matter how good any of our number are, I don't believe that there are any arenas of competition for ESO where one could legitimately claim to play it as a 'pro' sport.

There are people who make a living off playing ESO, although being sheltered the only one I know of is Deltia.