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torugs pact broken?

laksikus
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so i crafted my new v16 gear today.
5p Julianos, legendary
and i have inferno staff + 2x sword from torugs as weapons.

before Julianos i uses 4p MK and 1p Torugs as armor
after i equipped the new armor i found smth strange, i now had 2k less spell resistance than with my blue v15 torugs armor...

that yould be explained if i used 4p Torugs before, but I only had 2 / 3 pieces depending on the bar...
so how does that work?

my guess is that something is seriously bugged as somehow torugs takes my inferno staff from bar 1+ dw from abr 2 + chest and gives me the 4p set bonus too?

a guild mate said that he thinks its only a bug at the character sheet.

but to be sure: is only the character sheet wrong, or do i get the 4p bonus in fight too?
  • pronkg
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    There is something going on with set armors

    My torugs 2 piece gives me 2 spell dmg less instead of extra
  • Troneon
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    This might explain why people are seeing less resources if set bonuses are bugged too.
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  • zornyan
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    Something funny is going on in general on console

    2 of my templars

    One has 39k magicka and 3700 spell power.

    One has 33k stamina and 3800 weapon power both buffed up.

    Now go into IC sewers, pick a dremora and it takes 4 biting jabs to kill one.

    Use the magicks builds puncturing sweeps? It takes nearly 7-8!

    Here's the clintcher, both are dual wielding swords, obviously with different sets, both both using precise swords.

    The stam build has 0 penetration buffs, only 1 cp into penetration.

    The msgicks build has 1 cp into pen and has light armor penetration passives.

    Yet it's still hitting for nearly half the damage, yet my magicka pool and spell power both show that it should be hitting harder if anything.
  • Troneon
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    Yeah something is really messed up...and it's not just torugs pact..
    Edited by Troneon on November 7, 2015 11:38PM
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  • Lylith
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    pronkg wrote: »
    There is something going on with set armors

    My torugs 2 piece gives me 2 spell dmg less instead of extra

    agreed.

    the fourth piece of the magus set isn't giving more spell damage, either.



  • Ezareth
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    My Torugs 2 pc isn't giving me spellpower either. Something is really borked.
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  • Elara_Northwind
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    I think its just that Julianos is rubbish tbh. On pts I tried it along with lots of other set items. I tried lots of combination and I found that julianos just made my stats go down so much :disappointed: even compared to the armour I had on to begin with, 2 of which were well-fitted :lol:
    Edited by Elara_Northwind on November 8, 2015 12:21AM
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  • Malmai
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    pronkg wrote: »
    There is something going on with set armors

    My torugs 2 piece gives me 2 spell dmg less instead of extra

    Welcome to the ESO, never ending Alpha state of the game...

    Didn't see so many bugs, broken passives, broken champion skills, you cant even craft gear of use any CP points bcs you dont know if they even work properly or they are cut in half and stuff like that :D
    Edited by Malmai on November 8, 2015 1:00AM
  • Aletheion
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    I think it's similar to what I brought up here in PTS:
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223127/magnus-set-not-getting-its-4x-bonus

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  • Alphashado
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    Same here. I'm only using 2 pieces of Torug's for the Spell Dmg bonus, and removing one piece actually increases Spell Damage by 2

    An official response to this would be nice.
    Aletheion wrote: »
    I think it's similar to what I brought up here in PTS:
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223127/magnus-set-not-getting-its-4x-bonus

    -Aletheion

    While that is an interesting, very well put together report, I'm not sure that's what is happening here. If I remove my Restro Staff, and look at my remaining Spell Damage with only a Destro staff equipped, it drops when I remove a piece of Julianos, and it drops when I remove a piece of jewelry with Spell Damage Glyphs.

    EDIT: ok, scratch that. When I started this experiment, my Spell damage was 2149 -V14 sorc using Torugs, Julianos, and Cyrodiil's light rings with SP glyphs..... Now, simply by removing my Restro staff and the Torug's piece several times and putting them back on several times, my Spell Damage is up to 2479.... so according to my character sheet anyways, I now have 330 more SD than I did when I started.

    There is definitely something very weird going on with either Torug's, the Restro staff (in the off-slot), or both.
    Edited by Alphashado on November 8, 2015 5:41PM
  • BRogueNZ
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    Alphashado wrote: »

    There is definitely something very weird going on with either Torug's, the Restro staff (in the off-slot), or both.

    The way weapon switching is at the moment it would not surprise me at all if the game still thought you had the resto equipped.

  • Anhedonie
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    I'm losing 3 spell damage with 2 torug's pact items. What the...
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  • Oh_Skrivva
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    Is this only happening to console players cause I'm using 2 piece torug on pc and it gives me the right amount of spell power I also have 5 piece julianos.
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    Also I had something similar happen before I think in 1.6 where my crit values was not correct in tool tip and found out it was a bug with a certain add on I was running. When I turned off the add on everything was correct. But I'm not sure if this is the same type of problem since console players are having the problem as well.
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  • LeglessUK
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    I wish I'd read this post before I crafted my 2 x Torug's Pact items, a Staff and a Helm, because like others, I'm not receiving the Spell Damage bonus for 2 items. I'm sure this was working when I was using vr14 purple stuff, now with vr16 gold items it seems to be broken. BTW, I'm on PC EU server if that makes a difference... :(
  • Preyfar
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    The issue is with dual-wielding. For some reason, if you're dual-wielding items from the same set, the set bonus only sees them as one item (like a 2H item).
  • Ra'Shtar
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    Not true because i use torugs helmet and resto staff and i still don't get the extra spelldamage
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  • LeglessUK
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    The issue is with dual-wielding. For some reason, if you're dual-wielding items from the same set, the set bonus only sees them as one item (like a 2H item).

    That's not the cause of my problem, I have a Fire Destro Staff on bar 1 and a Lightning Destro Staff on bar 2, and to get the 2 piece set bonus I'm also wearing a Helm, so no dual wielding...

  • The Uninvited
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    No trouble here. Went from 4 MK + 3 Willpower + 2 Torug's + 1 Kena + Valkyn helmet to 5 Julianos + 3 Willpower + 2 Torug's + 1 Kena and spell damage went up like it should. Both bars destruction staff.

    It seems to be coming from using 2 dual wield weapons.

    OR... as I am using V15 Julianos and V16 Torug's... Could it be in the V16 version of Julianos?
    Edited by The Uninvited on November 10, 2015 9:57PM
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    I have 2558 spell damage on my sorc (I think). That's with only 1 torugs piece and with one bloodspawn helmet. If I put on a torugs pact hat, my spell damage is still at 2558, even though I get one more bonus. And nothing has helped so far. Not relogging, going naked and equip again. Nothing.
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    They need a massive patch of nothing but bug and exploit fixes. The amount items/skills/abilities not working correctly is our of control. Throw in Lag and extended load screens and it is becoming a joke.
  • Oh_Skrivva
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    Found out that it's a Ui bug. On one of my other toons I had the torug's 2 piece not add spell damage, at least according to my Ui. So I tested a skill on a few enemies. Without the 2 piece torugs equipped my crystal frags did a significantly less damage compared to when I had it equipped. To be sure that it was definitely just a ui error and the change in damage was not from the magic enchant on the 2 armor pieces raising the damage I made 2 new torugs armor pieces with no enchant on them and tested damage with those instead of the original torugs I had on with magic enchant.
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  • murmur
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    LeglessUK wrote: »
    Preyfar wrote: »
    The issue is with dual-wielding. For some reason, if you're dual-wielding items from the same set, the set bonus only sees them as one item (like a 2H item).

    That's not the cause of my problem, I have a Fire Destro Staff on bar 1 and a Lightning Destro Staff on bar 2, and to get the 2 piece set bonus I'm also wearing a Helm, so no dual wielding...

    Main hand + Off hand weapon together already gives you that spell damage bonus, so equipping helm will not seem to give any extra as you already have 2 piece bonus.

    To see it yourself, first remove all equipment, then just equip your weapons and make note of your spell damage. Do weapon swap, see that your spell damage goes up same amount that 2 piece bonus is, equip helm, see that spell damage stays same. Do math and see that your spell damage is what it should be with that set-up.
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    math seems wonky with this DLC.
  • The Uninvited
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    Strange things are happening indeed...

    Unequipped everything but Willpower jewelry than equipped gear again = spell damage lower (2671) than before (2820). Than unequipped 1 staff, put it back and BAM... spell damage back to 2820?

    Seems like a pure UI issue.
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  • SeptimusDova
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    uninvited im thinking the same way as well. Equipping and unequipping willpower at times shows only a 29 point increase in SD. For real fun try the twin sisters axes. They at times appear to give 800 stamina recovery.
  • sagitter
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    I got the same issue, torug pact sword and torug pact chest , if i remove or add 1 of these pieces, spell dmg doesn' change , is the same.
  • Ubimortem
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    Same here...

    2600 spell damage unbuffed with 5p Julianos, 3p Willpower, 1p Molag and 2p Torug (chest and staff)
    flame staff on both bars

    changing Setup to 5p Julianos, 3p Willpower, 2p Molag and 1p Torug (Flame staff) gives 2600 spelldamage too

    all gear v16 and legendary

    Losing Torug 2p Bonus should result in 129 less spelldamage

    something broken here - or just visual bug on character sheet?

    ZOS- could we please have clarification on this?!
  • Karacule_Fairystar
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    only the Character Stats/sheets for adding spell damage is not increasing but on latter, the tooltip on Skill bar are still increasing in 2 torug's pact piece set.
  • Sidewinder32
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    i have the same issue , however i also lose 2k spell resist between two setups.

    with 1 kena 5 julianos 3 willpower and 2 torugs i am at 17k ish spell resist and 2900 ish spell dmg 5-1-1 format

    with 2 narien'eth 5 julianos, 3 willpower, 2 torugs im at 15k ish spell resist and 2699 spell dmg also 5-1-1 format.

    both setups with the same abilities.
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