What if they made all shields crittable?

Kammakazi

Then I'd have to retire my Sorcerer..

err.. maybe switch over to Stamina.

I mean we already suffer:

1. Half Strength on all Shields
2. Bolt Escape Cost
3. ᴬᵐᵇᵘˢʰ

Artjuh90

it's just strange DOT and crit's dont work on shields lol

KenaPKK

No, just get rid of Harness Magicka. Then shields would be fine. Harness makes magicka v magicka fights ***.

Valrien

Honestly shields are already torn through like tissue paper in PvP. I'd agree with criticals and DoTs on shields if they take away the 50% penalty

Scyantific

Remove Shield-Breaker
Remove the dumb Shield nerf
Make DoTs bypass shields
Make shields crittable

There, shield problem fixed.

zornyan

Kammakazi wrote: »

Then I'd have to retire my Sorcerer..

err.. maybe switch over to Stamina.

I mean we already suffer:

1. Half Strength on all Shields
2. Bolt Escape Cost
3. ᴬᵐᵇᵘˢʰ

People still get 13-14k hardened wards, and stack that with healing and harness for nearly 20+ worth of shields. That's broken.

Do not give me the BS about bolt escape cost, I've seen sorcs spamming that non stop, after a fight so their resources are already lowered.

I've even made a sorc myself and can spam it as many times as I require to escape any situation, it needs a cooldown, not for cost, but an actual cooldown of 5 seconds.

Kammakazi

zornyan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Then I'd have to retire my Sorcerer..

err.. maybe switch over to Stamina.

I mean we already suffer:

1. Half Strength on all Shields
2. Bolt Escape Cost
3. ᴬᵐᵇᵘˢʰ

People still get 13-14k hardened wards, and stack that with healing and harness for nearly 20+ worth of shields. That's broken.

Do not give me the BS about bolt escape cost, I've seen sorcs spamming that non stop, after a fight so their resources are already lowered.

I've even made a sorc myself and can spam it as many times as I require to escape any situation, it needs a cooldown, not for cost, but an actual cooldown of 5 seconds.

If they have THAT much Magicka then they're obviously sacrificing Spell Power in their build to achieve such shields. They probably aren't even offensive, more defensive. By the looks of it, it sounds like they would need to slot Inner Light / Bound Armor and that takes up 4 slots total.

GreenSoup2HoT

What a stupid thread. Its not like only shields are effected by the pvp de-buff. Shields are still way stronger compared to stamina class heals (excluding breath of life, you need to be a temp to be at the same level).

You realize everything is 50% lower right.... all heals and damage + shields.

The fact you can be at 1 hp and pop a 15-20k shield is a little ridiculous.

In my view they need to be crit-able. Right now Sorcs are way to tanky. They don't even feel pressure when being attacked by sometimes multiple enemies.

The fact you can build for complete glass cannon and have that much sustain with sheild stacking just shows its broken.

Lol at you complaining about bolt escape cost. Everyone in the game got a fkin dodge roll cost which was crucial for most stamina builds. Bolt escape needed a nerf and it was easy to see it coming. It still is spammed just as much. However now you just spam it 2-3 times wait out the cooldown and repeat. Still achieving that huge distance gap.

Then you complain about ambush spam when thats just as costly to keep up with a bolt escaping sorc to an extent. First 2-3 times.

Sorcs amaze me.... you guys have it so good and you know it lol.

The Arena just shows the differences. Sorcs are not even sweating in that place where every other class in the game is struggling to maintain their hp pools.

This game has terrible balance anyway.

Alucardo

Sounds like someone's sweating. As a DK, I'd at least like to see DoTs work against them. When your primary damage is coming from damage over time and that doesn't work on shields, it's a bit of a hill to climb.

zornyan

Kammakazi wrote: »

zornyan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Then I'd have to retire my Sorcerer..

err.. maybe switch over to Stamina.

I mean we already suffer:

1. Half Strength on all Shields
2. Bolt Escape Cost
3. ᴬᵐᵇᵘˢʰ

People still get 13-14k hardened wards, and stack that with healing and harness for nearly 20+ worth of shields. That's broken.

Do not give me the BS about bolt escape cost, I've seen sorcs spamming that non stop, after a fight so their resources are already lowered.

I've even made a sorc myself and can spam it as many times as I require to escape any situation, it needs a cooldown, not for cost, but an actual cooldown of 5 seconds.

If they have THAT much Magicka then they're obviously sacrificing Spell Power in their build to achieve such shields. They probably aren't even offensive, more defensive. By the looks of it, it sounds like they would need to slot Inner Light / Bound Armor and that takes up 4 slots total.

With just bound armor, you can hit 44k magicks, whilst still maintaining 4k spell power, and 1500 odd regen, hardly giving up offensive power?

Not to mention, magicka also increase damage, so the more magicka you stack, the more damage you do, and the more shields you have.

My new build calculates to be around 45K magicka, 3900 spell power and 1400 regen.

Thanks to stupid passives, they get huge spell power buffs, huge regen buffs, and huge cost reduction buffs all from their passives.

Btw this build is using the exact same gear near enough as my imperial templar, and obviously slotting several sorc skills, but the added passives would give me around 300 more spell power, more magicka and more regen using the same gear.

That's fair right?

zornyan

Oh and slotting shields nullifies 2 complete types of build, first off without them being crittable, anyone stam build that's designed around crits and using shadow mundus stone immediately has their damage cut in half, infact over half, the entire playstyle, their entire build becomes useless.

Then dks, all those dots....worthless.

No way should slotting one skill, make you immune to crits and dots, let you maintain high mobility though another skill, give you passive regen bonuses, and be stackable.

I've tried it myself , it's stupidly easy mode.

Kammakazi

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

What a stupid thread. Its not like only shields are effected by the pvp de-buff. Shields are still way stronger compared to stamina class heals (excluding breath of life, you need to be a temp to be at the same level).

You realize everything is 50% lower right.... all heals and damage + shields.

The fact you can be at 1 hp and pop a 15-20k shield is a little ridiculous.

In my view they need to be crit-able. Right now Sorcs are way to tanky. They don't even feel pressure when being attacked by sometimes multiple enemies.

The fact you can build for complete glass cannon and have that much sustain with sheild stacking just shows its broken.

Lol at you complaining about bolt escape cost. Everyone in the game got a fkin dodge roll cost which was crucial for most stamina builds. Bolt escape needed a nerf and it was easy to see it coming. It still is spammed just as much. However now you just spam it 2-3 times wait out the cooldown and repeat. Still achieving that huge distance gap.

Then you complain about ambush spam when thats just as costly to keep up with a bolt escaping sorc to an extent. First 2-3 times.

Sorcs amaze me.... you guys have it so good and you know it lol.

The Arena just shows the differences. Sorcs are not even sweating in that place where every other class in the game is struggling to maintain their hp pools.

This game has terrible balance anyway.

I dunno about you but Sorcerers aren't as strong and Stamina Nightblades are pretty much at the top.

Just looking at your signature I'm pretty sure you wreck things faster than I can.

Salmonoid

They should just simply be shield, the fact that shileds negate DOTs and Crits is the most outrageous thing in the game.

Not only does it not make sense, it's over-powered as anything can be.

Forestd16b14_ESO

My 2 cents.

Get rid of shield stacking then we can talk about changes to shields.

That is my 2 cents.