NB Healing Post 1.7

J2JMC

I was just wondering what experienced players thoughts were for nb healing in the current patch. Specifically I'm wondering how you get around lack of stamina management(shards OP) and your thoughts on restoration staff vs dual wielding.

As an nb healer, I believe my utility comes from the damage I can put out to move the dungeon along faster. From my understanding, going dw will increase your spell damage between the passives and the advantage of having an extra set piece. However, using a resto staff allows me to weave in light attacks which would keep my ultimate(shooting star) up more. I'm wondering if the combined light attacks+more ultimate would be more beneficial for my group or if the spell damage plus extra set piece gained from dw is to important for my heals to let go.

As for group resource management, I'm wondering if the stamina changes have caused issues with experienced groups that normally run nb healers. Just completed vWGT yesterday and it seemed like our tank would not have been able to last without a few shards in crucial moments. If you have ran into these problems, what did you and your group do to overcome them?

jebuspowers

I don't heal specifically but I do utility healing. I'm a mag blade specd for dps. But between soul Siphon, funnel health, and some resto staff skills I don't think it changed much

WreckfulAbandon

On my NB healer I use DW on one bar and resto staff on the other. NB healers add damage that helps speed the run along, they also can offer slight damage reduction on the group through Maim and major reduction through VoB. The DW is to maximize damage and I have mostly utility/DPS skills on that bar; there's no way you're gonna get by without some resto heals in vet dungeons on a NB healer.

For pledges and vet dungeons a good tank shouldn't be too impacted by the lack of shards utility, I can't say how this works for trials though.

As far as ultimates go, I use barrier as not having BoL can sometimes be troublesome if you anticipate some big shots being taken by the whole group. In any dungeon with Daedra/undead (Wayrest, Elden Hollow, etc) I use Dawnbreaker on my DW bar. The main utility of a NB healer is the group having more damage so things die faster and don't hit your teammates as much. I'd say I much prefer healing on my NB than my Temp because of that fact.

What I use to heal:

-Funnel Health (weave this constantly)

-Illustrious Healing

-Mutagen (still don't know if this is working as intended but I like the 20 sec duration more than RR's 16 sec)

-Healing Ward

-Sap Essence on mobs

-Refreshing Barrier if it hits the fan

Keeping all of your HoT's up (including Illustrious) you can easily maintain 20kish HPS with minimal CP investment into healing done. Of course you will need high spell power to do this but that's how you make Funnel Health shine anyway. I keep Shadow Image and Crippling Grasp on the boss at all times, you will have plenty of mobility doing this. With Harness Magicka you can literally solo bosses if need be. Impale is a great skill to have too, just don't carried away executing and let ppl get low on health.

Hope this helped, I remember getting kicked from groups cause someone was like "A NB healer? No way!" so it's nice to see other ppl making this work too and playing this game like an Elder Scrolls game and not like WoW.

J2JMC

@WreckfulAbandon I use resto/dw but when I unlock shooting star I wonder if replacing dw with a second resto might be better.Light weaving resto with funnel healh might provide more dps since I'm actually using light attacks and ultimate will be up faster.

WreckfulAbandon

J2JMC wrote: »

@WreckfulAbandon I use resto/dw but when I unlock shooting star I wonder if replacing dw with a second resto might be better.Light weaving resto with funnel healh might provide more dps since I'm actually using light attacks and ultimate will be up faster.

I'm using resto staff 90% of the time during boss fights, I use DW to keep DoT's up and switch to DW when proxy det goes off. I get what you're saying, but your spell power is gonna take a hit with dual resto, and NB healer's best utility is their damage.

tangy.citrus

Templar healers are good for resource management. But you can easily get by that.
If there is even 1 magicka user in your group, the healer needs to be running ele drain on bosses and bigger mobs.
The tank will be just fine as long as he is half-way decent. For DK tanks, weave heavy attack, and use your ultimate strategically. For NB tanks, no-brainer. Unsure about the other classes, but sorc tanks are rare AF, and templar tanks can regen their stam with repentence.

You need to use resto/destro for healing. Apply HoT's on resto bar, and then switch over to destro and light attack weave funnel on bosses, and with trash mobs, just have sap essence on resto bar and sap everything to keep your team healed.
NB healers are pretty OP because their attacks give back HoT's for the rest of the team. Just make sure to keep up ele drain, combat prayer, and HoT's.

WreckfulAbandon

tangy.citrus wrote: »

Templar healers are good for resource management. But you can easily get by that.
If there is even 1 magicka user in your group, the healer needs to be running ele drain on bosses and bigger mobs.
The tank will be just fine as long as he is half-way decent. For DK tanks, weave heavy attack, and use your ultimate strategically. For NB tanks, no-brainer. Unsure about the other classes, but sorc tanks are rare AF, and templar tanks can regen their stam with repentence.

You need to use resto/destro for healing. Apply HoT's on resto bar, and then switch over to destro and light attack weave funnel on bosses, and with trash mobs, just have sap essence on resto bar and sap everything to keep your team healed.
NB healers are pretty OP because their attacks give back HoT's for the rest of the team. Just make sure to keep up ele drain, combat prayer, and HoT's.

Maybe healers always using elemental drain and combat prayer consistently get their groups into the trials leaderboards, I can't say because I only run vet dungeons for pledges so I can PvP more effectively.

If you want to be told exactly how to set up your bar so you can make the PvE leaderboards, follow the above poster's advice. If you want to have more fun and not be forced to run a destro staff, then you can use what you want as long as it's effective for your role, which is healing.

You're not a tanker, you're not a battery, you're a healer, and any utility you can offer is great, but comes secondary to your ability to keep the group alive. I run v16 gold pledges and make short work of them without any group deaths using the build I described to you (often with pug groups). I have had no complaints thus far once people see me in action, and I get to have fun as well with my own build that I play because I enjoy it.

If you don't want to be some whiney dps's personal power cord, then refuse to subscribe to the idea that healers "have to" run destro/resto.

J2JMC

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

tangy.citrus wrote: »

Templar healers are good for resource management. But you can easily get by that.
If there is even 1 magicka user in your group, the healer needs to be running ele drain on bosses and bigger mobs.
The tank will be just fine as long as he is half-way decent. For DK tanks, weave heavy attack, and use your ultimate strategically. For NB tanks, no-brainer. Unsure about the other classes, but sorc tanks are rare AF, and templar tanks can regen their stam with repentence.

You need to use resto/destro for healing. Apply HoT's on resto bar, and then switch over to destro and light attack weave funnel on bosses, and with trash mobs, just have sap essence on resto bar and sap everything to keep your team healed.
NB healers are pretty OP because their attacks give back HoT's for the rest of the team. Just make sure to keep up ele drain, combat prayer, and HoT's.

Maybe healers always using elemental drain and combat prayer consistently get their groups into the trials leaderboards, I can't say because I only run vet dungeons for pledges so I can PvP more effectively.

If you want to be told exactly how to set up your bar so you can make the PvE leaderboards, follow the above poster's advice. If you want to have more fun and not be forced to run a destro staff, then you can use what you want as long as it's effective for your role, which is healing.

You're not a tanker, you're not a battery, you're a healer, and any utility you can offer is great, but comes secondary to your ability to keep the group alive. I run v16 gold pledges and make short work of them without any group deaths using the build I described to you (often with pug groups). I have had no complaints thus far once people see me in action, and I get to have fun as well with my own build that I play because I enjoy it.

If you don't want to be some whiney dps's personal power cord, then refuse to subscribe to the idea that healers "have to" run destro/resto.

I tend to run with dedicated groups so I honestly don't mind providing more utility since the guys I run with are my friends. Anyway appreciate the help. I think I'm going to stick to dw for now just because I crafted a v9 set to finish leveling but afterwards I'll definitely be checking out destro.