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Inner Light or Sea of Flames?

Skiserony
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Hey guys,

I was wondering, are there clear results for which one is better now for the DK? Which one is going to be the most helpful in the solo arena?

Thanks
  • MrDerrikk
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    The main reason for having Sea of Flames at all would be with Skoria, so it depends on whether you are using that or not.
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  • Johngo0036
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    I use sea of flames over inner light.... just prefer it
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  • MrDerrikk
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    Johngo0036 wrote: »
    I use sea of flames over inner light.... just prefer it

    As do I, it's just that looking at it from a min-max sense, it doesn't give enough magicka back to be more useful than Inner Light.
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  • Dracane
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    I see all Dragonknights using sea of flames.
    I myself would be using magelight though.
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  • Armitas
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    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.
    Edited by Armitas on November 4, 2015 11:20AM
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  • MrDerrikk
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.

    Isn't there a bug where it does stack though?

    Edit: I just tested and it seems it doesn't anymore.
    Edited by MrDerrikk on November 4, 2015 11:54AM
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  • Wisler89
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.

    Isn't there a bug where it does stack though?

    Edit: I just tested and it seems it doesn't anymore.

    That was only a visual bug, the char screen showed the value as if the stacked, but in reality only one counted.

    On topic: Most DKs in my guild use only Magelight. There are various reasons for this: extra Magicka provides extra damage in every situation against every mob. Using both is like playing a Togglemancer Sorc, just weaker. And most think, the extra damage from Sea of Flames is inferior to the extra Magicka and Magicka regen from Mage Light.
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  • Cuyler
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    For strictly group PvE DD Use both. SoF adds ~500-800 passive dps....that is, you do nothing, it does damage. Inner light for the extra magicka it provides.

    Now if you're talking vDSA or vMA then your going to go with inner light only so you can adds more utility to your bars, like chains, deep breath, etc.
    Edited by Cuyler on November 4, 2015 1:07PM
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  • Armitas
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    Wisler89 wrote: »
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.

    Isn't there a bug where it does stack though?

    Edit: I just tested and it seems it doesn't anymore.
    And most think, the extra damage from Sea of Flames is inferior to the extra Magicka and Magicka regen from Mage Light.

    I feel the same way...why a universal skill is better than a class skills is beyond me. They just cannot seem to get this skill right.
    Edited by Armitas on November 4, 2015 1:42PM
    Retired.
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  • Xvorg
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    inner light.

    Mainly because I use a lot entropy to get the major prophecy and empower buff, so sea of flames cause me some troubles sometimes when launching an attack each 6 seconds and I don't want to lose an empowered attack to a puny fireball.

    In lava whip builds I think it is better, ideally tanks. Can be useful for healers (if there's some DK healing there). Stealth builds, however should avoid it IMHO
    Edited by Xvorg on November 4, 2015 7:35PM
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  • MrDerrikk
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Wisler89 wrote: »
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.

    Isn't there a bug where it does stack though?

    Edit: I just tested and it seems it doesn't anymore.
    And most think, the extra damage from Sea of Flames is inferior to the extra Magicka and Magicka regen from Mage Light.

    I feel the same way...why a universal skill is better than a class skills is beyond me. They just cannot seem to get this skill right.

    I see an easy fix for this being them just buffing the amount of Magicka returned. Getting back 150 magicka when you're sitting on 35k max is very pitiful; perhaps in the 500-1k range would make it more viable?
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  • Skiserony
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    Hmm interesting. I think I'll probably go for Inner Light. Because it seems to have a bit more advantage over SoF, especially when multiple mobs are around. It also has better passives while those of SoF doesn't really improve anything. And it could take your Empower buff away, didn't think of that before. The magicka return is also that small it's almost going to do nothing.

    It's a shame, because I really think Sea of Flames is an awesome skill, but yeah...

    Thanks guys.

  • Armitas
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Wisler89 wrote: »
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Use both. The crit doesn't stack but they each provide fire and forget damage.

    Isn't there a bug where it does stack though?

    Edit: I just tested and it seems it doesn't anymore.
    And most think, the extra damage from Sea of Flames is inferior to the extra Magicka and Magicka regen from Mage Light.

    I feel the same way...why a universal skill is better than a class skills is beyond me. They just cannot seem to get this skill right.

    I see an easy fix for this being them just buffing the amount of Magicka returned. Getting back 150 magicka when you're sitting on 35k max is very pitiful; perhaps in the 500-1k range would make it more viable?

    It would make it more viable yeah, but I think the problem is deeper than that. A class skill should far outstripe a universal skill, if it doesn't surpass it then we just have a skill clone wasting a slot in our class line.
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  • Sharmony
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    You use both if you want to min max your dps. If you choose one of the other you simply lower your single target and AoE dps.
    Look at any good PvE Dragonknight Youtuber (not deltia) and you'll see this is the case. I would strongly suggest Niftyy
    Edited by Sharmony on November 5, 2015 11:52AM
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