Seems even duelling is impossible

Alucardo

Having a few friendly duels today. Everyone was gathered around participating, the birds were singing, and it was a lovely change from the recent zerging that had happened prior.

That was until some trolls showed up and started sieging the area. I get that it's Cyrodiil and a huge battlefield, but ffs let us have some small-scale PvP and enjoy this game for a change. Stop ruining it just because you want to go back to running around in herds like the cattle you are.

ZOS, we need you to help promote small-scale PvP (you want this any way for performance, right?), an arena, instance PvP dungeons.. anything.

Le sigh.

Leggi

PVP-duelling would kill a lot of PvP intensity, that's not in ZOS plans.

So, shame to say but no, it won't be organised this way.

iBkeelin

I feel like no matter what mmorpg it is I'm playing since way back in the days of DAoC I have been reading the same topics lol... Sh!t happens.. It's a game. Adapt and find ways to enjoy it or move on

BRogueNZ

Duel elsewhere would be the tissue for yo' issue

Near a keep jest makes no sense if you dont want to be interu

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JMadFour

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

TiberX

There are so many almost empty campaign but you probably had to go to azura, right? Prime time also?

TheDarkShadow

But what about "play as you like"?

Meanwhile, I guess if you want a 1v1 circle, you must do it in secret just like some illegal gang fight.

McSwaggins

JMadFour wrote: »

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

The game is designed for large scale combat, but if I have more than 30 people on my screen I drop to 15 FPS and my ping spikes. Yep, seems like it was designed for large scale combat alright

Frawr

JMadFour wrote: »

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

Look at the bigger picture man,

Variety would keep more people playing. Some people are sick and tired of laggy keep pingpong.

all types of PVP should be implemented in order to keep players entertained, and paying, for as long as possible.

Stranglehands

JMadFour wrote: »

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

ever heard of a desire line?


People wanting to play games in some odd emergent way is how whole genres (tower defense, DOTA, etc.) got started, you can't knock it

rokrdt05

JMadFour wrote: »

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

Actually, a good chunk of pvpers have been asking for Arena or small scale pvp zones in which they can do exactly this. The current state of pvp is stale and repetitive. With Arena's that hold 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, etc it would spice things up... not to mention any small scale pvp would allow groups to be able to fight other like minded players who are looking for the same thing instead of running into 24+ man groups out in open world.

IC was supposed to be (or least described as) small scale pvp zone, and yet you have an absurd amount of players who run around in a group there as well.

People know this isn't a 1v1 game and no one was comparing it to that set up. I myself am in a dueling guild on NA-PC, and duels are held pretty frequently on less populated campaigns out in a random location not likely to be bothered by normal pvpers who are keep taking etc. A lot of people come to these duels. We don't have testing dummies and doing these duels allows for people to test their builds and improve their skills that translate into better players out in open world.

Asmael

Alucardo wrote: »

Having a few friendly duels today. Everyone was gathered around participating, the birds were singing, and it was a lovely change from the recent zerging that had happened prior.

That was until some trolls showed up and started sieging the area. I get that it's Cyrodiil and a huge battlefield, but ffs let us have some small-scale PvP and enjoy this game for a change. Stop ruining it just because you want to go back to running around in herds like the cattle you are.

ZOS, we need you to help promote small-scale PvP (you want this any way for performance, right?), an arena, instance PvP dungeons.. anything.

Le sigh.

Sounds like you were away from any keep and still got sieged -or were you next to a keep?

When that happens, if the trolls are from, say AD, AD duellers will just let EP and DC duellesr destroy the dudes.

That's pretty amazing to see the difference in skill play when you see 4 or 5 dudes beat the c*** out of 15+ guys.

Nighn_9

You might as well ask for flying mounts

Jura23

Everybody knows the sieges dont do any noticeable dmg anymore, so stop complaining.

Jura23

Btw: forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227493/farewell-for-now-cyrodiil/p1

driosketch

TiberX wrote: »

There are so many almost empty campaign but you probably had to go to azura, right? Prime time also?

Friday night Azura, in the midst of a back and forth between DC and AD, I step out of Nik on my way to Roe and see two players fighting. They were visible from the front porch of the outpost where it looked like and AD nb was trying to kill a hapless DC player. So I rush out there to heal him before he died. Of course the DC player just stood there, looked like he'd either been lagged out or died standing, while the AD NB came after me. I made it back to the Outpost where the NPCs chased him off. At that point the DC player started moving again and the two of them started jumping up and down in the distance. And I realized what that was before I even looked to the chat and saw someone mentioned they were dueling.

I have no problem with duelers but there are better times and places for it.

PS never got to Roe, ran into AD zerg coming the other way. I did whisper the person in chat to let them know the area was about to get over run even.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

If you want to duel use one of the remote parts of the map. The only thing that is worse than dueling next to a keep is the people who do it on the arena steps.

Gargath

Yup, most duels I witnessed or took part, happened in delves across Cyrodiil, where players go usually alone for the shyshards. I go there usually alone too for the shards and sometimes I'm atacked by such single players and in most cases I die .

DannyLV702

I understand meeting up for a 1v1 every now and then to prove a point, but this whole thing with dueling circles with 30 people watching is pretty stupid. It kills the entire "we're at war" mood.

Gargath

Well, even at war sometimes it can be quite entertaining

Jura23

What happened to me recently that I run into 2 fighting players, one of my faction. When I realized they were dueling because my faction mate stopped fighting when I jumped in, I started to back off, but the other guy was still following me and killed me. Yeah, my fault, I could have killed him if I was good enough to do so, but sorry this is not cool if you see I am backing off. Dont expect any favours you who do duels from me next time if this is your policy.

Snowgoons

JMadFour wrote: »

Game is built for sieging, not for dueling.

people need to come to grips with this already. it's NOT a 1vs1 game. it's just not.

it's not Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, or Tekken. it's not Call of Duty, or Destiny, or any other lobby shooter (aka Arena).

it's a spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. which is PVP on a large scale. large scale. meaning large groups. aka "zerg". sieging castles and large-scale open world pvp. that is what the game was designed for.

1vs1 isn't a priority in this game, nor should it ever be. you'll be lucky if they ever even put in a 4vs4 Arena, to be honest.

quit insulting players for playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it's not their fault that this game isn't designed for the kind of PVP you want. you are crying for this game to be something its not, rather than playing games that are what you want. it's your fault for trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and coming to the forums crying because it doesn't fit.

WTF are you talking about? This is not even close to being a spiritual successor to DAoC, and DAoC was built around 8 man pvp squads...the only time zerging happened was for relics...did you even play DAoC lol? Multiple times the devs said the game is balanced for 8man groups, and multiple times DAoC devs stated they were working on 1v1 balance...........................................please everyone else don't listen to this guy as he doesn't represent the DAoC community.......

AllPlayAndNoWork

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

But what about "play as you like"?

Meanwhile, I guess if you want a 1v1 circle, you must do it in secret just like some illegal gang fight.

Shhh ... The first rule of fight club.................

stojekarcub18_ESO

no different than those that want to do the quests/dungeons in Cyrodiil without having to worry about annoying gankers. It is what it is. At the end of the day it is still just a game and no need for HBP.

OGLezard

Just remember, if you were role playing in pve land and some scrubs came by and ruined your role play.....ZoS would ban them so fast your head would spin. True story sadly........

DDemon

Would love to have some kind of 1v1 or 2v2. Including fighting your own faction members in a duel, or even group duels (up to 4).

The only thing this would add to the game is content, I don't see why this has got to be such a long drawn out discussion, just add it already. The amount of players has been dropping at a steady rate, this may retain some of those people, or draw new people in.

MuddledMuppet

DDemon wrote: »

Would love to have some kind of 1v1 or 2v2. Including fighting your own faction members in a duel, or even group duels (up to 4).

The only thing this would add to the game is content, I don't see why this has got to be such a long drawn out discussion, just add it already. The amount of players has been dropping at a steady rate, this may retain some of those people, or draw new people in.

I agree.

I love seiges, I love zerging, I love getting random 1v1 or 3v3 etc, I love ganking in IC, I love getting ganked in IC and winning, and I LOVE not knowing how many enemies are gonna apprear around the next corner.

But...

I would also love dueling or small scale structered fights to be in the game, it wouldn;t stop me going out and doing the other pvp, most people who want it would either be the same or be part of that group that is just fed up of zergs and wont do that kinda pvp anyway

EDIT: I should add i'm no way a leet player, just mr average, i lose as many as i win but those losses help me improve, and sweeten the victories when I get them

RatedChaotic

Sry but no matter where you are, or what your doing if your an enemy I will try to kill you. Even if your sitting there with a buddy dueling.

No mercy.

MuddledMuppet

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Sry but no matter where you are, or what your doing if your an enemy I will try to kill you. Even if your sitting there with a buddy dueling.

No mercy.

colour me frightened

Alucardo

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Sry but no matter where you are, or what your doing if your an enemy I will try to kill you. Even if your sitting there with a buddy dueling.

No mercy.

It's Cyrodiil, and that's your prerogative. But keep in mind that your faction mates won't help you in a duelling area, and you'll get farmed every time you come back, giving me more AP for the Akaviri motif (yay). So I have to ask, is it really worth it?
There has been too much animosity between DC and EP lately, even things like hate whispering after fights.
Being able to chill out with a group of them duelling is a nice change, and promotes respect. I don't see duelling as a bad thing for the health of Cyrodiil and the community in general, as long as it doesn't go on too long taking time away from the actual war.

Sithisvoid

Lol I love wrecking a dueling party. It's AvA not fight club.

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It's Cyrodiil, and that's your prerogative. But keep in mind that your faction mates won't help you in a duelling area, and you'll get farmed every time you come back, giving me more AP for the Akaviri motif (yay). .[/quote]

^And that's why i love wrecking the party. You can all skip together in a field way out somewhere but we will find you eventually and splatter everyone. I hate cross alliance BFF's