Glass motifs too expensive?

FlyLeaf30

So recently I went motif hunting in stores to try and find good deals and I notice the glass motif is still really expensive. Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the 10 glass fragments and the resin from vendor (10k) and try to get the chapter you need? Ok just to break it down a little bit here, you can find the glass fragments in store for 5k each + the 10k for the resin, that's 60k for a glass motif, where you might pay 120k for one that is already made. I'm just saying, it makes more since to buy the items separately.

AtriasNaradan

Welcome to guild stores...is it really the first time you saw opportunists waiting for foolish enough buyer to buy their overpriced goods?

Marrtha

You might not get what you want though. It's a lottery.

Prof_Bawbag

Simply don't buy them. Even if i really, really need/want an item I won't buy it out of principal if i think it's vastly overpriced. There's a lot of prices that are driven by greed or by the sellers delusion that he can somehow, for example, sell his glass greaves motif for 160k when there's other glass greaves motifs further up for less than half the price. It's the same with blue motif books, there's still some people who list them at around 5k. I mean, do these people have any sort of awareness at all?

Even take the martial knowledge set. There's some people who still think their blue/purple v14 set is worth 20k for each individual piece.

Ourorboros

The difference between buying the glass fragments and a glass motif is RNG. You don't know what kind of chocolate you'll get, Forrest.

This might be fine when you don't know many glass chapters, but as you learn more, the higher the likelihood of getting ones you know. Maybe you'll be able to sell repeats and recoup your gold spent on fragments. Maybe you won't.

Falhael

Wll, you won't necessaily get what you need. I always got the same chapters when combining fragments myself, bows and maces. Over and over again. So I sold those and got the ones I was still missing. Many chapters are below 70k now.

After a while combining fragments gets pretty tiresome when you always get the same results. Especially when you paid more for fragments+resin than you will make from selling the chapter you just created. Some pages seem to occur more often than others. Same with xivkyn. Market is flooded with belts and boots, you'll get those for about 5k. Legs seem to be a lot harder to find, so they're more expensive in stores (100k+).

FlyLeaf30

Hagebutte wrote: »

Wll, you won't necessaily get what you need. I always got the same chapters when combining fragments myself, bows and maces. Over and over again. So I sold those and got the ones I was still missing. Many chapters are below 70k now.

After a while combining fragments gets pretty tiresome when you always get the same results. Especially when you paid more for fragments+resin than you will make from selling the chapter you just created. Some pages seem to occur more often than others. Same with xivkyn. Market is flooded with belts and boots, you'll get those for about 5k. Legs seem to be a lot harder to find, so they're more expensive in stores (100k+).

Yeah, I understand what your saying, I have almost every motif available in the game thus far except glass. I only know 3 glass chapters right now because of the prices and working on getting other styles. I can see it getting really annoying getting say...legs 4 times in a row, especially if you only need a couple more chapters to complete the whole set. Well I was just stating the obvious in my original post, I think its crazy how people spend their gold. They spend 200k on one item when they could've spent 80k, lol.

AlnilamE

Check the dates on those pages selling for 120k. They could have been there a while.

But as others said, getting your own fragments into a page puts you in the hands of RNG. Which usually works fine if you are just starting out, but when you are down to 5 pieces you still need, the odds that you will get repeats are much higher.

I got Maces for my first two assemblies. Had a friend who traded the second for Axes though.

Right now, I'm mostly still putting them together, but if I find something cheap, I'll buy it.

myrrrorb14_ESO

I was checking out the prices on glass and it's amazing how much they vary in price.

Found a bunch in the 30-40k range and then it jumps to 100k. Way too much for this poor guy.

Bracteamentum

I personally do not find it hard to find them, I get many out of locked chests around the game world, also outside of the imperial city.

FlyLeaf30

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

I was checking out the prices on glass and it's amazing how much they vary in price.

Found a bunch in the 30-40k range and then it jumps to 100k. Way too much for this poor guy.

I spend over 250k in motifs the other day, trying to complete my collection of Dwemer, Xivkyn and I bought like 20 glass fragment pieces + the 20k for the resin, too expensive.

Falhael

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

Hagebutte wrote: »

Wll, you won't necessaily get what you need. I always got the same chapters when combining fragments myself, bows and maces. Over and over again. So I sold those and got the ones I was still missing. Many chapters are below 70k now.

After a while combining fragments gets pretty tiresome when you always get the same results. Especially when you paid more for fragments+resin than you will make from selling the chapter you just created. Some pages seem to occur more often than others. Same with xivkyn. Market is flooded with belts and boots, you'll get those for about 5k. Legs seem to be a lot harder to find, so they're more expensive in stores (100k+).

Yeah, I understand what your saying, I have almost every motif available in the game thus far except glass. I only know 3 glass chapters right now because of the prices and working on getting other styles. I can see it getting really annoying getting say...legs 4 times in a row, especially if you only need a couple more chapters to complete the whole set. Well I was just stating the obvious in my original post, I think its crazy how people spend their gold. They spend 200k on one item when they could've spent 80k, lol.

200k is pocket money for many people in game. I paid 200k for staves acouple of weeks ago without blinking. I wanted it like right now, didn't feel like checking so many guild stores for a better price since that takes forever. So I was happy to spend those 200k. It's not real money after all Demand dictates the price, and some people just don't care when they have several millions available.

FlyLeaf30

Hagebutte wrote: »

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

Hagebutte wrote: »

Wll, you won't necessaily get what you need. I always got the same chapters when combining fragments myself, bows and maces. Over and over again. So I sold those and got the ones I was still missing. Many chapters are below 70k now.

After a while combining fragments gets pretty tiresome when you always get the same results. Especially when you paid more for fragments+resin than you will make from selling the chapter you just created. Some pages seem to occur more often than others. Same with xivkyn. Market is flooded with belts and boots, you'll get those for about 5k. Legs seem to be a lot harder to find, so they're more expensive in stores (100k+).

Yeah, I understand what your saying, I have almost every motif available in the game thus far except glass. I only know 3 glass chapters right now because of the prices and working on getting other styles. I can see it getting really annoying getting say...legs 4 times in a row, especially if you only need a couple more chapters to complete the whole set. Well I was just stating the obvious in my original post, I think its crazy how people spend their gold. They spend 200k on one item when they could've spent 80k, lol.

200k is pocket money for many people in game. I paid 200k for staves acouple of weeks ago without blinking. I wanted it like right now, didn't feel like checking so many guild stores for a better price since that takes forever. So I was happy to spend those 200k. It's not real money after all Demand dictates the price, and some people just don't care when they have several millions available.

I agree with that, if its in demand and its brand new, of course everyone wants it when it first comes out so they don't mind spending their pocket money.

Ourorboros

Bracteamentum wrote: »

I personally do not find it hard to find them, I get many out of locked chests around the game world, also outside of the imperial city.

What are you smoking? Glass motifs and glass fragments, the topic of this thread, do not come from chests. You might be thinking of malachite. Not the same thing.

Lettigall

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

So recently I went motif hunting in stores to try and find good deals and I notice the glass motif is still really expensive. Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the 10 glass fragments and the resin from vendor (10k) and try to get the chapter you need? Ok just to break it down a little bit here, you can find the glass fragments in store for 5k each + the 10k for the resin, that's 60k for a glass motif, where you might pay 120k for one that is already made. I'm just saying, it makes more since to buy the items separately.

#MillionReasonsToPlay

Palidon

Why even bother checking for the best price in the guild stores for individual chapters (fragments) when you can purchase the entire motif via the crown store for 5000 crowns. That's what I did and saved me a lot of time doing repeatable crafting writs hoping to get a fragment of the motif. If you have not figured it out already, ZOS is all about repeatable content which at some point just gets old.

FlyLeaf30

Palidon wrote: »

Why even bother checking for the best price in the guild stores for individual chapters (fragments) when you can purchase the entire motif via the crown store for 5000 crowns. That's what I did and saved me a lot of time doing repeatable crafting writs hoping to get a fragment of the motif. If you have not figured it out already, ZOS is all about repeatable content which at some point just gets old.

Bear mount and bear cub, that's why. Why spend real money when I can spend fake gold and make all of it back by the end of the day. I like to save my gold though.

Volkodav

I keep getting Malachite shards from drops.Getting quite a bunch.

FlyLeaf30

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I keep getting Malachite shards from drops.Getting quite a bunch.

Yes, that is Malachite shards, I was talking about the actual motifs/fragments. I don't have any problem in the world getting the malachite shards.

Volkodav

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I keep getting Malachite shards from drops.Getting quite a bunch.

Yes, that is Malachite shards, I was talking about the actual motifs/fragments. I don't have any problem in the world getting the malachite shards.

Oh right.I forgot that to make glass armor they're doing it like the Dwemer motifs.Bit by bit.Sorry. :}XD

FlyLeaf30

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I keep getting Malachite shards from drops.Getting quite a bunch.

Yes, that is Malachite shards, I was talking about the actual motifs/fragments. I don't have any problem in the world getting the malachite shards.

Oh right.I forgot that to make glass armor they're doing it like the Dwemer motifs.Bit by bit.Sorry. :}XD

Its all good

Reverb

Bracteamentum wrote: »

I personally do not find it hard to find them, I get many out of locked chests around the game world, also outside of the imperial city.

No, no you don't. The glass motifs come from combining 10 motif fragments, which only come from writ rewards, with a resin that costs 10k gold. The motif generated is random. That is the only in-game way to get glass motifs right now, they are not found in chests in IC or anywhere else.

You must be thinking of malachite shards, which are used to create the crafting trait stones. Those are pretty common and come from chests all over the map. But they are useless unless you know the glass motifs.

Umad_BrO

Way too pricey, yes.
But ya see, thats only if you show interest, make the seller work a bit.
I have glass dagger motif for weeks and can't sell them for 10 K for some reason, but if I go askin for staffs....100 K asking price.
LaMe

myrrrorb14_ESO

Umad_BrO wrote: »

Way too pricey, yes.
But ya see, thats only if you show interest, make the seller work a bit.
I have glass dagger motif for weeks and can't sell them for 10 K for some reason, but if I go askin for staffs....100 K asking price.
LaMe

Shoot at 10k I'd buy it and I don't particularly like glass lol. Very surprising it doesn't sell.

Good luck though!

nine9six

I don't mind the price. I'm still "earning" them through Writs. I'll have them all eventually. And if there is a stubborn one that I can't seem to find, I'll either trade for it or buy it when the prices drop on them.

Glass is ugly, anyway. IMO at least.

AtriasNaradan

For me, getting the money to buy 5K crown is much easier than getting a full collection by that kind of in-gold pricing...and i could get at least 50K golds daily from my usual play time. Also there's the part where i won't buy something that's simply overpriced no matter what. By logic, anything rarer of the same type and function like that shouldn't cost any more than 50% more.

For example the glass motif pieces, i get it that some of them are rare and it's harder to get with the RNG, but whenever someone selling it, i see them as not needing it anymore as it is considered a multiplied pieces, something they already have. By that assumption, there's really no lose in pricing it at most 50% additional golds than the more common one, in respect for the rarity. So lets say the more common one priced at 50K, i would only tolerate myself buying the rarer pieces at 75K. I get it that everyone have different standards, but anything more than 100% is outragous and simply foolish to buy, no matter it is fake money or not.

Shizashane

Give it some time. The price will ultimately fall at some point like it has with all the other ones. It does suck though looking at everyone's nice new armor. Oh to covet.