Vampire set?

Artemisshrikes

I'm curious I really like my vampire and am curious if theres a craftable set that benefits a vampire

DannyLV702

There is one, but it's definitely not worth using. It's called Vampires Kiss. All it really does is help out your health due to vampire health regen debuff

DannyLV702

Nothing for enhancing your vampire status, I believe.

Artemisshrikes

ya iv seen that one

Artemisshrikes

is there a dropped set that would be good

Artemisshrikes

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Nothing for enhancing your vampire status, I believe.

alright thank you

UltimaJoe777

DannyLV702 wrote: »

There is one, but it's definitely not worth using. It's called Vampires Kiss. All it really does is help out your health due to vampire health regen debuff

That just uses Vampire in its name lol but yeah it is the most attributable set to Vampires.

Molag_Crow

That's a good point... it would be cool if they made Werewolf and Vampire craftable sets which actually give benefits to being either one.

warpower9

with a nerf to undeath coming I doubt to ever see this armor in game.

Birdovic

warpower9 wrote: »

with a nerf to undeath coming I doubt to ever see this armor in game.

Nerf to Undeath? Pls nuuu, my only reason to stay one going "Poof" ?

And yeah, I'd like something to help vampires/Werwolves. Maybe similar to Master Weapons, enhancing underperforming skills? Like for Vampire the Essence Drain thing, on Werewolf maybe increasing bleed, give even more armor? >:D

Molag_Crow

warpower9 wrote: »

with a nerf to undeath coming I doubt to ever see this armor in game.

@warpower9 are you serious? nerf to undeath?!

SienneYviete

CrowsDescend wrote: »

That's a good point... it would be cool if they made Werewolf and Vampire craftable sets which actually give benefits to being either one.

Werewolf does have a set tailored for them with this one Saviors hide set. Some crafted sets that are specifically made to further enhance vampire or werewolf characters would be nice though.

Merlin13KAGL

You're better off with one a a dozen other sets, tbh.

The Health Regen bonus on any set (not just Kiss) is still going to get hit with your reduced healing from the vampire status. As it stands it's going to add max of 112 HR with the 2 piece, and the equivalent of 750 HR with 5 piece.

The 750 also is going to be affected by the reduced healing, so expect about half that, and only when you have a kill.

If you're fighting one creature, healing won't matter at that point. If you're fighting more than one, that kill bonus might be enough to counter only part of the incoming damage.

My advice is to never count on HR to save you, especially as a vamp. At most, it will buy you a few more seconds.

Instead, use sets that increase your primary stats (Magicka/Stamina, depending on your build) and slot one of more skills to self heal. With the recent change to Drain, you'll get 10% of your missing health every second for the duration, so long as you are not interrupted. At low health, this can approach 10% of your total health. It's also spammable and cheap.

Use it twice over 6 seconds and be close to 60% health again.

Lastly, Devouring Swarm is a great AoE that heals and deals, plus it's cheap at Stage 4.

Vampire's Kiss unfortunately is about the most anti-vampire useful set in the mix.

warpower9

yes it seems that undeath is getting it..from pts patch 2.2.1 World •Vampire •Undeath: Fixed an issue where this passive was granting significantly more damage reduction than intended.

Birdovic

warpower9 wrote: »

yes it seems that undeath is getting it..from pts patch 2.2.1 World •Vampire •Undeath: Fixed an issue where this passive was granting significantly more damage reduction than intended.

Damn, I didnt pay attention to that, as soon Login System stops failign and fooling us, I'll check PTS ingame for infos.

ADarklore

warpower9 wrote: »

yes it seems that undeath is getting it..from pts patch 2.2.1 World •Vampire •Undeath: Fixed an issue where this passive was granting significantly more damage reduction than intended.

However, was this a patch to how Vampire is currently on Live, or on PTS? They do tend to post PTS bug fixes in PTS patch notes, and it is possible that somehow Undeath was buffed on PTS and then subsequently reduced back to normal.

Although, can't help but wonder if this is their way of trying to curtail so many players from allowing their vamp characters to progress to stage 4 vampirism? I think this means that IF Undeath was granting much more damage reduction than intended on Live, once this patch goes Live I'd expect to see either a lot fewer Vamps or more players keeping their Vamp characters at stage 1 or 2. Honestly, I think there should be much more incentive to keep your vamp within stage 1 or 2 instead of them bringing a nerf hammer to the line.

warpower9

it was in pts 2.2.1 update and I expect that it is due to something on live as I found no complaint forums in pts about vamps or abilities or problems because of vamp. imo... now that the elemental damage is at 25% FOR VAMP/WW we have vamp tanks and vamp tanks were a BIG NONO ever since creation in pve ...yes there were pvp vamp tanks ...but it was not normal. now its normal ..hel most are vamp/ww anymore. so yea its def. to tone done vamps imo honestly. truth is vamp blows arse on a diarrhea day. read the vamp story ..I found in game at a bookshelf.. it makes vamps sound like they are epic and will show a supreme power if attacked. I am not a big eso lore guy but vamp skills and passives I no way make me feel powerful. come on 10% =about 100 extra points in regen have to be next to dead for the full 33% damage buff nerfed drain essence and mist form can now be cc'd. plus mist sucked arse anyways no regen while misting bahhh. please zos get real!

ADarklore

Honestly, the only thing I like vamp for is being able to drop Night's Silence for a better set of crafted gear- but the ability to run while in stealth is pretty big for races/skills that receive bonus damage while in stealth. Plus, is it me, or does it feel like you actually run faster while in stealth versus out of stealth with either vampire passive or Night's Silence?

Merlin13KAGL

ADarklore wrote: »

warpower9 wrote: »

yes it seems that undeath is getting it..from pts patch 2.2.1 World •Vampire •Undeath: Fixed an issue where this passive was granting significantly more damage reduction than intended.

However, was this a patch to how Vampire is currently on Live, or on PTS? They do tend to post PTS bug fixes in PTS patch notes, and it is possible that somehow Undeath was buffed on PTS and then subsequently reduced back to normal.

Although, can't help but wonder if this is their way of trying to curtail so many players from allowing their vamp characters to progress to stage 4 vampirism? I think this means that IF Undeath was granting much more damage reduction than intended on Live, once this patch goes Live I'd expect to see either a lot fewer Vamps or more players keeping their Vamp characters at stage 1 or 2. Honestly, I think there should be much more incentive to keep your vamp within stage 1 or 2 instead of them bringing a nerf hammer to the line.

@ADarklore , nah.

Most stay at stage 4 for the cost reduction and to lessen the hassle of having to feed, rather than for the less reduced Healing received.

Most vamps effectively count on their HR as being zero, for all intents and purposes.

If they changed Vamp as it indicates in the vamp quest, where you would actually become more powerful the more you feed and the more you turned (other players) to extend the bloodline, it would implement a whole new reason to actually feed again.

Regarding movement speed, it doesn't speed you up, per se, you simply lose the speed penalty when in stealth. So, you essentially walk normally (and thus upright) even when stealthed, vs the ungifted man and mer.

warpower9

I believe you mean health recovery merlin. an yes the whole vamp stage thing is arse backwards imo too darklore. but what can we do other than pray the get a lightbulb over their heads. would be neat to have the chance to go tweak some things with the team and see how players responded lol...

Zouni

It would be nice to have vampire/werewolf hunter sets as well. Not full 5 piece, 2 piece sets.

GreenSoup2HoT

Zouni wrote: »

It would be nice to have vampire/werewolf hunter sets as well. Not full 5 piece, 2 piece sets.

you have an entire skill line wtf?

how about giving me some vampire/werewolf sets first. seriously vampires and werewolfs need huge buffs. buffs so people actually consider taking fighters guild skills since they are kicking ass. Right now people only take fighters guild skills to grief vampires since they can be 1 shot.

ADarklore

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Most stay at stage 4 for the cost reduction and to lessen the hassle of having to feed, rather than for the less reduced Healing received.

Most vamps effectively count on their HR as being zero, for all intents and purposes.

That was my point. If they NOW start taking even more damage with the upcoming changes to Undeath, then the health regen may actually become a point of concern. Previously, if they were receiving much less damage thanks to Undeath, they could afford to lose HR... but if that is now taken away, suddenly HR becomes important.

ADarklore

Similar topic... but does anyone know what happened to them putting Vampire/Werewolf bites in the Crown Store? I would have expected them to do so before Halloween just because it would fit the theme- but I haven't heard anymore about it.

willymchilybily

im with @ADarklore vamp is for the movement speed for me. mistform sucks now, and the change to drain essence is meh at best. increased speed of entering stealth is nice too.

khajitt nightblade on my alt so it is game changing having stealth movement speed, and the alternative is a 5 piece set. why they didnt include it as part of a 2 piece monster set, or jewlery set i dont know. but i guess you don't want everyone using it.

would be nice to see one set more vamp orientated though, and likewise not a fan of vampire's kiss.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

I'm curious I really like my vampire and am curious if theres a craftable set that benefits a vampire

The Vampire Kiss set is excellent for a DPS. To make the most of it, you have to be able to put out large amounts of damage since the regen is contingent on killing enemies. However, there is another vampire set that can be crafted, called Song of Lamae. You can find it to the north in Alik'r Desert inside a ruin with a really weird name that begins with an 'R'. Just look up song of Lamae.

ADarklore

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

The Vampire Kiss set is excellent for a DPS.

Vampire's Kiss might be great against a mob, but see how valuable it is against single-target bosses or group bosses. If nothing dies, you get no health regen. In other words, the value of the set is extremely situational.

Even with Song of Lamae, I think Whitestrake's Retribution is better because it's a damage shield that applies every 15/s whereas Song of Lamae is every 30/s.

Check the Crafted Sets tab for comparisons of various sets. elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets