Make the game fun

BindingEnergy

With the last update, I found I could no longer play my NB as a PVE tank anymore. I personally do not do a lot ov PvP and noticed that this last patch focused primarily on PvP and seem to have nerfed my class in PvE to fix PvP, so I created a new tank using a traditional tank class. Here is what I noticed as I level my second character to Vet status.

1) Group Finder is a COMPLETE!!!!! fail. It took me 3 hours to never to find a group.
2) Drop rates suck: This means if you want to make anything for personal use you still have to grind, grind, grind, grind.
3) PvE does not feel loved: Once you finish the main content there is not much to do. You can do a dungeons, if you ever can get a group via Group Finder, but there is no good scaling PvE content.
4) PvP is lame: I love going into PvP and being trounced by a group of 40 other alliance players. We should have some 12v12, 4v4, etc environments right now all we have a giant free for alls. Basically the roving horde of X alliance rampages til it looses steam, if they have more players they win, I would like to see some smaller scale PvP where tactics and skill are meaning full.

The game has become un-fun, most of my guild has left for other games, I can't find groups using group finder and the dev's seem to break two things for every one thing that get fixed. I will still give this a chance, but I will be cancelling my ESO membership until things improve.

In your efforts to balance the game and make money, make sure that you don't forget to make sure that the Game is fun to play. I GRIND everyday at work to pay for my games, I do not want to log into ESO and have to GRIND before I can have Fun.

F7sus4

Go find a guild. This can solve potentially up to 4 of your problems.

Kuroinu

I didn't read your issues that you have, but your last statement in bold is pretty awesome and can encompass many things in this game. I don't mind a grindy game, but there is a point when it does become less fun. This varies with the individual of course.

AzraelKrieg

BindingEnergy wrote: »

With the last update, I found I could no longer play my NB as a PVE tank anymore. I personally do not do a lot ov PvP and noticed that this last patch focused primarily on PvP and seem to have nerfed my class in PvE to fix PvP, so I created a new tank using a traditional tank class. Here is what I noticed as I level my second character to Vet status.

1) Group Finder is a COMPLETE!!!!! fail. It took me 3 hours to never to find a group.
2) Drop rates suck: This means if you want to make anything for personal use you still have to grind, grind, grind, grind.
3) PvE does not feel loved: Once you finish the main content there is not much to do. You can do a dungeons, if you ever can get a group via Group Finder, but there is no good scaling PvE content.
4) PvP is lame: I love going into PvP and being trounced by a group of 40 other alliance players. We should have some 12v12, 4v4, etc environments right now all we have a giant free for alls. Basically the roving horde of X alliance rampages til it looses steam, if they have more players they win, I would like to see some smaller scale PvP where tactics and skill are meaning full.

The game has become un-fun, most of my guild has left for other games, I can't find groups using group finder and the dev's seem to break two things for every one thing that get fixed. I will still give this a chance, but I will be cancelling my ESO membership until things improve.

In your efforts to balance the game and make money, make sure that you don't forget to make sure that the Game is fun to play. I GRIND everyday at work to pay for my games, I do not want to log into ESO and have to GRIND before I can have Fun.

1: Group finder is getting improved with the next update that will allow cross-faction grouping.
2. Drop rates for some things are being increased in the next update
3. A new PvE zone is coming in the next update so there is more love for that. This includes a solo arena
4. PvP is as is. Can't be helped as yet. There has been talk of some small scale stuff here and there but nothing solid.

Gern_Verkheart

BindingEnergy wrote: »

With the last update, I found I could no longer play my NB as a PVE tank anymore. I personally do not do a lot ov PvP and noticed that this last patch focused primarily on PvP and seem to have nerfed my class in PvE to fix PvP, so I created a new tank using a traditional tank class. Here is what I noticed as I level my second character to Vet status.

1) Group Finder is a COMPLETE!!!!! fail. It took me 3 hours to never to find a group.
2) Drop rates suck: This means if you want to make anything for personal use you still have to grind, grind, grind, grind.
3) PvE does not feel loved: Once you finish the main content there is not much to do. You can do a dungeons, if you ever can get a group via Group Finder, but there is no good scaling PvE content.
4) PvP is lame: I love going into PvP and being trounced by a group of 40 other alliance players. We should have some 12v12, 4v4, etc environments right now all we have a giant free for alls. Basically the roving horde of X alliance rampages til it looses steam, if they have more players they win, I would like to see some smaller scale PvP where tactics and skill are meaning full.

The game has become un-fun, most of my guild has left for other games, I can't find groups using group finder and the dev's seem to break two things for every one thing that get fixed. I will still give this a chance, but I will be cancelling my ESO membership until things improve.

In your efforts to balance the game and make money, make sure that you don't forget to make sure that the Game is fun to play. I GRIND everyday at work to pay for my games, I do not want to log into ESO and have to GRIND before I can have Fun.

1) Being fixed with Orsinium.

2) Being fixed with Orsinium.

3) Being fixed with Orsinium.

4) Yeah, you're out of luck here. And I agree with you on this one. I HATE zergfest type PvP. Unfortunately, the Devs seem to love it, and think our opinions of instance structured PvP to be complete garbage.

Chieve

This game is fun.

UltimaJoe777

Gern_Verkheart wrote: »

4) Yeah, you're out of luck here. And I agree with you on this one. I HATE zergfest type PvP. Unfortunately, the Devs seem to love it, and think our opinions of instance structured PvP to be complete garbage.

Sounds like someone is salty because Zenimax isn't planning any small-scale PvP for a long time.

RatedChaotic

I hope they do make smaller pvp. So I can get back to zerging. These dueling parties in the warzone need to stop. It is a war between alliances and seeing 30 plus people in IC dueling screws the population cap in campaigns.

Reznique

About 2):

Due to lack of content they have low drop rates, making you grind the same dungeon over and over again. Thats apparently fun

F7sus4

OLIVI3R wrote: »

About 2):

Due to lack of content they have low drop rates, making you grind the same dungeon over and over again. Thats apparently fun

If getting a gear is your main goal in the game, what would you do after getting it eventually? Post a quitting thread, since "there was nothing else to do anyway"? Come on. You can do good in crafted gear too, and especially with the forthcoming DLC.

I_killed_Vivec

I suspect that ZoS thought that PvP would be invigorated by restricting access to IC.

It would have given meaning to PvP in Cyrodiil - you're fighting for access. And it would have given some context to fighting in IC - clearing out the opposition when you take control, fighting for survival when you've lost control. It would also have made it more popular with PvEers who would think they were safer entering IC if their faction had control.

They didn't think it through and forgot that people wouldn't buy DLC if they weren't guaranteed access to it - well, why would you? I'm not going to part with cash in the hope that I've chosen the right faction and enough other people have shown up to get me access to IC.

But unrestricted access means it's a gankfest. And most people won't pay for DLC just to be gankfodder.

So they didn't think that through either.

Paradoxically, Orsinium might help with IC. People will sub to try Orsinium "for free", and might go explore IC too...

F7sus4

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

It would have given meaning to PvP in Cyrodiil - you're fighting for access. And it would have given some context to fighting in IC - clearing out the opposition when you take control, fighting for survival when you've lost control. It would also have made it more popular with PvEers who would think they were safer entering IC if their faction had control.

But on the other side, they introduced a few new 30-day campaigns. Basically, this would lead to form "AD/DC/EP buff servers for IC" with "Azura's Star" being the normal/default PvP campaign. IC gates restriction is also some sort of negative motivation. Most PvP players, instead of participating in PvP activities to gain access for their alliance, would simply wait for other PvP Guilds to do their job and join only when the access is granted. If it works like that, it's a living proof of failed design.

Volkodav

If you're only in thee game for what you van get,well,go play Skyforge.There is a constant fight/drop game.Just the barest of questlines to lkeep you going in line as you kill and gather equipment and skill points,etc.Nothing else to do there.However,it IS neverending.Outta suit you to a tee. :}

Eurygorgon

I'm having lots of fun, I hope you start to again, dudeman.