How is Werewolf at the moment?

Ragnaroek93

Hi guys,

I just returned from a break and want to prepare for Orsinium. Can some good players tell me how well Werewolf is performing at the moment in PvP and PvE? I just got a free vampire bite and don't want to cure it and pay for a WW bite just to realise that it's not really viable and only makes sense for roleplaying reasons.
I saw a video from a guy who did really well with WW in PvP but I'm not a good PvP player so I have no clue if his opponents were just bad or if WW is a viable choice. Also he was playing DK and I am playing stamina NB (with bad equip). I'm afraid that WW isn't really worth playing since I never see any WW players. Is someone here who can recommend WW? And how much would a bite cost (I don't want to get scammed)?

Greetings

UrQuan

I've seen a few people absolutely rocking WW in PVP... You definitely have to have the right build for it (ie. a stamina build with high weapon power and weapon crit), but you can wreck face. There's one guy in particular who I've encountered a few times in Imperial City, who I've seen tear through groups of players - including me.

I'm just starting to focus on a WW build on one of my nightblades (stamina build) to see if I can make it work for the DPS role in group dungeons. I haven't done much to test it out, but so far I'm optimistic.

Oh, and as far as the price of a bite - depending on your platform it can be easy to get one for free. I never charge for bites, but I usually give them to guildies rather than random people.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Werewolfs can be stong in PvP at the moment if played right. They can deal really high burst damage, but they are lacking defensive skills. So in combination with a good healer they are very powerfull, but if there's no healer around and you can't keep pressure on all enemies, you'll probably die fast.

If you play on PC EU DC I can bite you for free, so you can test if you like it or not.

SilentRaven1972

I can't say for PVP, but WW has saved my butt several times on tough mobs/bosses. My main is a stamina NB, but I don't follow any particular build. I've got 7/8 characters that are WW, to see what I can get to work. If you are PC NA, I can bite in any faction. I bite free (but donations are accepted

CP5

Werewolf is in a good spot right now, irritating to maintain at times with how often you have to faceplant a corpse but between those it can do real well. You gain a decent amount of armor when you transform (used to be 1% resist buff, now its closer to 15% at max level) the skills are powerful, if very overpriced. But if you build for being a ww it can go very well, and as for price if you are NA AD PC i'm always looking for more people to give bites to.

Artemisshrikes

well the last patch messed up the stam regen where you have to be in werewolf form to use the stam regen

SilentRaven1972

You only need the ultimate slotted to get the regen, as far as I know. Not an issue for those that use it.

Artemisshrikes

not anymore it says in the skills you have to be in werewolf form

Artemisshrikes

it really messed up my dk stamina dps

Tholian1

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

well the last patch messed up the stam regen where you have to be in werewolf form to use the stam regen

Werewolves aren't getting the stam regen passive while not transformed with the WW ultimate slotted?

CP5

Its for having it slotted, if you want the buff at all times you need it on both bars.

Artemisshrikes

read it

CP5

I use it, and I clearly have my stamina regen change when swapping from a bar with ww on one bar and not on the other.

UrQuan

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

not anymore it says in the skills you have to be in werewolf form

Nope:

Werewolf Transformation Ultimate wrote:

While slotted, your Stamina Regeneration is increased by 15%.

SilentRaven1972

"Removed Stamina Regeneration from Lycanthropy; it now requires Werewolf Transformation to be slotted in your ability bar."

Quoted from patch 2.1.4

UltimaJoe777

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

UrQuan

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

UltimaJoe777

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

If you're referring to how Werewolf used to not have so many skills then yes I am aware of that and yes I am speaking as of console release since after all that is when I joined as according to my profile info lol

RSram

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Werewolfs can be stong in PvP at the moment if played right. They can deal really high burst damage, but they are lacking defensive skills. So in combination with a good healer they are very powerfull, but if there's no healer around and you can't keep pressure on all enemies, you'll probably die fast.

If you play on PC EU DC I can bite you for free, so you can test if you like it or not.

Before you do the initial attack you can enable all your shields and weapon buffs before doing the WW transformations. So far I found that every shield and weapon buff that remains after a weapon swap will also remain after a WW transformation. Unfortunately this is a one-time technique, but can really boost your initial attack.

UrQuan

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

If you're referring to how Werewolf used to not have so many skills then yes I am aware of that and yes I am speaking as of console release since after all that is when I joined as according to my profile info lol

Yeah, because werewolf used to be absolutely terrible... You'd pop your ultimate and instantly be significantly less effective than you were in human form. It was strictly a debuff - the only people who would ever use it were people who were just having a laugh.

UltimaJoe777

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

If you're referring to how Werewolf used to not have so many skills then yes I am aware of that and yes I am speaking as of console release since after all that is when I joined as according to my profile info lol

Yeah, because werewolf used to be absolutely terrible... You'd pop your ultimate and instantly be significantly less effective than you were in human form. It was strictly a debuff - the only people who would ever use it were people who were just having a laugh.

Well even after console release many people only got Lycanthropy for the Stamina Recovery and never used the transformation. Seems now though people are actually learning how to play with Werewolves.

CP5

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

If you're referring to how Werewolf used to not have so many skills then yes I am aware of that and yes I am speaking as of console release since after all that is when I joined as according to my profile info lol

Yeah, because werewolf used to be absolutely terrible... You'd pop your ultimate and instantly be significantly less effective than you were in human form. It was strictly a debuff - the only people who would ever use it were people who were just having a laugh.

It was a good laugh, only armed with a gap closer and a cc that opened gaps, without the ability to break cc, a self heal that could break on any damage, a non-existent stamina buff, all for the low low cost of 1k ultimate. Those were the days.

Chrlynsch

PVP werewolf can be a beast. You just have to build around the werewolf's natural weaknesses. I'm going to cover weakness and ways around them to maximize your werewolf.

heals
High ability cost
Mobility?


Heals: Your main heal goes off of spell damage and max magica. So your going to want a little larger pool on magica then normal stam builds want. Dump champ points into both healing received and healing done, 10% is good for healing done this will also unlock 12% spell crit passive. It will take a bit to get healing received up as it has quicker deminishing returns. Now also dump some points into critical damage and heals. Mundus go theif for additional crit (both spell and weapon). Spell damage make sure you transform with either duel wielding (best), two hander, or sword and board(this gives you +2k armor, extra set bonus, and armor enchantment. My choice for trait precise. If your having trouble surviving try the claws of life otherwise stick with healing debuff.

High ability cost: 7/7 medium armor will decrease your stamina cost of abilities, roll dodging, finally go with stamina cost reduction on rings.

Mobility: Werewolves are quick, if your running in a group your team can keep you running care free. If not you may be in trouble. Snares/CC/and slows will be your undoing, as you have no way yourself on purging any of these effects save roll dodging through a root, but this is a quick way to drain your stamina. So keep some immovable pots on you. I personally the stam/immovable/speed pots these are great for chasing down fleeing sorcs, escaping enemy zergs/gank groups. Or pressing offensively on an opponent.

My personal build:

7/7 medium armor

3 vicious serpent: Gloves,Belt,Boots stamina enchants, Impenetrable
4 Hundingsr: Boots impenetrable. Chest, Head, Legs, Infused. Prismatic enchants.

Hundings GreatSword precise
Hunding's Bow precise

Neck: Agility robust weapon damage
Ring: Agility arcane stam cost reduction
Ring: Agility arcane stam cost reduction

RSram

Is there any way to edit the WW skills without first transforming?

UltimaJoe777

RSram wrote: »

Is there any way to edit the WW skills without first transforming?

No. You need to be in Werewolf form to customize the bar. To make this easier you can transform at your faction's Werewolf Shrine where you have infinite Werewolf time while standing near enough to it.

teladoy

Werewolf good if you go stamina build.

Their damage and abilities are very underestimated. I'm werewolf

Sharee

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Werewolfs can be stong in PvP at the moment if played right. They can deal really high burst damage, but they are lacking defensive skills. So in combination with a good healer they are very powerfull, but if there's no healer around and you can't keep pressure on all enemies, you'll probably die fast.

About the lack of defense as a werewolf...

UltimaJoe777

Sharee wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Werewolfs can be stong in PvP at the moment if played right. They can deal really high burst damage, but they are lacking defensive skills. So in combination with a good healer they are very powerfull, but if there's no healer around and you can't keep pressure on all enemies, you'll probably die fast.

About the lack of defense as a werewolf...

It's because simply being a Werewolf provides such buffs and then some.

Van_0S

lathbury

CP5 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Werewolf is fine, and always has been.

Um, you never played on PC prior to console launch did you?

If you're referring to how Werewolf used to not have so many skills then yes I am aware of that and yes I am speaking as of console release since after all that is when I joined as according to my profile info lol

Yeah, because werewolf used to be absolutely terrible... You'd pop your ultimate and instantly be significantly less effective than you were in human form. It was strictly a debuff - the only people who would ever use it were people who were just having a laugh.

It was a good laugh, only armed with a gap closer and a cc that opened gaps, without the ability to break cc, a self heal that could break on any damage, a non-existent stamina buff, all for the low low cost of 1k ultimate. Those were the days.

your forgetting when the ultimate counter would reset for no reason

Ragnaroek93

OK, I will try it out, thank you guys a lot
Also thank you for the free bite offers but I'm on PC - EU - AD.


For equip I have just crafted me 5 piece of Hundings Rage and combined it with 5 piece of Ravager, can the weapon damage bonus also be activated in WW form? Or should I just replace it with another selfcrafted set since it is only the VR11 version (but I don't want to waste epic or legendary mats 1 week before Orsinium release)?

Greetings