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I dont know why but

MattyMatty
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I can see obviously that 3rd person is better for awareness of whats going on and definitely better for when I finally get to PvP for the first time but I actually have a slight more preference to 1st person playing. Yet from all the posts I have read on the matter it seems I am one a very small percentage that feel the same and plays largely in 1st person (about 75/25)???

Also read a few people saying the game was designed for 3rd person - which I kinda disagree with the statement , as the game was not DESIGNED for 3rd person but rather the game has a design that 3rd person is more advantageous an option from increased FOV
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    You could say that it is designed for third person because the designers have built indicators that just don't work in first person. Most of the time red pools just aren't visible in first person.

    Also, in PvE the majority of scenarios involve fighting more than one mob, in which case it's clearly an advantage knowing what's going on around you instead of having your view restricted.

    In PvP there's an obvious advantage in having a greater field of view.

    I play in first person because I like the immersion and I prefer fighting in your face, but it is considerably more difficult. First person is "hard mode", being able to see behind you is clearly "cheat mode" :)
  • phairdon
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    Gives us the best of both worlds. People who like playing in first person can. Players who enjoy third person can play their way.
    I play mostly first person. Generally have little trouble battling multiple enemy.
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  • MattyMatty
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    Yeah that is why love 1st person because of the immersion aspect, you cant see whats behind you all the time unless you spin around, and you cant easily and readily see the red zones on the floor whilst in battle unless you take a quick glance at your feet - immersion people as that whats it would be like in reality

    For me (personal opinion obviously) the 3rd person aspect giving total FOV and awareness kinda is a bit boring as takes away the element of surprise and the feeling of not knowing and risking turning around to check your back - excitement in life for some is not knowing everything and deciding what actions to take in the heat of things to discover the state of play at any given moment and either happy you did so as an enemy was coming up behind you or big mistake as the enemy you was facing just dealt a crit
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  • The Uninvited
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    I played my first character in 1st person up to V9 including group dungeons. Now, I only play 3rd person as it sure helps in veteran dungeons. Try running a trial in first person and you probably won't make it.

    Normal questing and stuff like that can be done easily in 1st person, but if I try it now it feels strange to me and gives me a tiny bit of motion sickness.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    I played my first character in 1st person up to V9 including group dungeons. Now, I only play 3rd person as it sure helps in veteran dungeons. Try running a trial in first person and you probably won't make it.

    Normal questing and stuff like that can be done easily in 1st person, but if I try it now it feels strange to me and gives me a tiny bit of motion sickness.

    Same here, almost :)
    Coming from the previous ES games which I ONLY played in 1st person, I played my first character ESO in 1st person, until after VR1. Then I started a second one and repeated this. Only then I dared to try 3rd person (a friend convinced me^^), and now I can't imagine to play in 1st person again since I saw the advantage of the 3rd person view. Whenever I go back to 1st person (in rare cases), it feels like I'm crawling along the ground, and I can't see important things. I don't run trials or Vet dungeons yet (I had no opportunity to do so), but the same goes for standard PvE.
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  • Tryxus
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    My own policy in normal ES games:

    - play as a warrior/sneak: 3rd person (blame it on Dynasty Warriors and Tenchu)
    - play as a mage/archer: 1st person

    It took a bit to get used to it in this game, but then I discovered the wonders of the lock on system :p
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  • ladyonthemoon
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    My policy is "play on 1st person view"; you cannot see what's in your back in real life. :tongue:
  • MattyMatty
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    Yeah exactly @ladyonthemoon - thats realism and immersion

    In my opinion and ppl it is opinions , Destiny got it right by making it 3rd person in the trading guilding area but 1st person in battle. ESO should have been the same where in any town zone you auto switch to 3rd person and once you leave you switch back to 1st person that way everyone would be on the same playing level of even someone higher than you being surprised attacked
    Real life you cant see everything everywhere and for a 1st person series that I have played since Arena in the mid-90's ZOS were wrong in making this a 3rd person game

    I'll still play it, just won't be anywhere near the top leaderboards
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  • CapnPhoton
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    I have to play it in 3rd person too. I couldn't do it in first like Skyrim and Oblivion.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    In first person your field of view is very limited so outside of preference in any game set in a world with PvE and PvP elements the third person view is more advantageous compared to first person. It's not a matter of opinion or how the game is made but a reality that being able to see in front, beside and behind you at all times is going to offer a better awareness that only seeing a field of view in front of you at all times.
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  • ItsGlaive
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    MattyMatty wrote: »
    I can see obviously that 3rd person is better for awareness of whats going on and definitely better for when I finally get to PvP for the first time but I actually have a slight more preference to 1st person playing. Yet from all the posts I have read on the matter it seems I am one a very small percentage that feel the same and plays largely in 1st person (about 75/25)???

    Also read a few people saying the game was designed for 3rd person - which I kinda disagree with the statement , as the game was not DESIGNED for 3rd person but rather the game has a design that 3rd person is more advantageous an option from increased FOV

    I much prefer third person, first person just feels odd to me but each to their own.

    Also, sorry to say, but the game was designed for third person first - they didn't add first person into it until well into development and even then only because of fan outcry.
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  • MattyMatty
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    I just think that introducing both perspectives as an option ruins a game like this in that aspect\area when for the last 20 years ES was always 1st person
    3rd person makes the game easier and thats why en-mass it is favoured - 1st person adds the element of surprise and danger. Lets face it take a moment and hold your head still and look straight ahead and then realise that you can only see that small FOV yourself and to do things and explore and if you was in battle you have to use that to be aware yet you still might get surprised attacked outside of your FOV - now if F'Wits ZOS had stuck to the classic ES 1st person only we would all be in that immersive position and would make for more exciting gaming - 3rd person is just saying here is everything there are no surprises or excitement as you know exactly what is going on and what you can or cant do!!!
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  • The Uninvited
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    MattyMatty wrote: »
    now if F'Wits ZOS had stuck to the classic ES 1st person only we would all be in that immersive position and would make for more exciting gaming - 3rd person is just saying here is everything there are no surprises or excitement as you know exactly what is going on and what you can or cant do!!![

    Have you ever tried Sanctum Ophidia in first person? I think that would change your opinion.

    I agree, "you cannot see what's in your back in real life". I have been a FPS player as long as those games existed, but in group dungeons and trials it's different. In real life I don't have 20 trolls standing around me or a Mantikora on my back. :D

    In PVP, that would be something where it would really work. All human enemies, all in first person. That would make it seem more realistic I think.
    Edited by The Uninvited on October 24, 2015 7:26PM
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    Do I get a badge :D
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  • Tommy1979AtWar
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    I switch between 3rd and 1st person depending on what I'm doing and what the situation is... I didn't realise people limited themselves by sticking to just using either one or the other at all times.
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Since I been here since before ESO launched and the whole time until ESO TU and after (I never left the game, ever) I can rightly say this simple answer,

    The game was initially designed as 3rd person, they had a 1st person look option but that is all there was, someone in the first initial Beta told ZOS that it should feel more like Skyrim and have 1st person POV too. Due to public outcry when learning there was no 1st person POV, ZOS went back and made it possible, and yes it was alot of work on there part as they had to add the hands and arms and 1st person weapons and stuff. So that's why we have 1st person in ESO/ESO TU.

    Little article on it, Doesn't have a date but it is before ESO launched.

    http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/es-immersion-first-person-view
    ES immersion - First Person View
    By: Jacob Abbasi in: News
    Typically ES players have been able to fully immerse into their character, but in this upcoming ES will that be true?
    There were rumours that said in ESO you could only look in first person to see things up close and that unlike Skyrim and previous ES games you can't see your character swing his weapon or raise his hands. Well these rumours have been backed up by the developers of ESO and people over the internet are making their voices heard about the matter as it is very dear to everyone, including me. The MMO players generally either don't care or agree that the first person shouldn't be used in an MMO game. In an MMO you are meant to be tactical and therefore to be able to see enemies and threats around you need to be able to use third person mainly, so it should encourage them to use third person. On the opposite end of the scale there are the hardcore Elder Scrolls players who believe that it isn't an ES game without that full immersion of true first person, involving you being able to see your weapons and hands. The whole point of an Elder Scrolls game is to be able fully play it in RPG style and for that many people need that true first person ability. Personally, I believe that in ESO there needs to be true first person, as Paul Sage and other developers of the game have said it is going to be Elder Scrolls but online and I believe this isn't possible without the ability of controlling your character as if it is you in the world of Tamriel. The target of this game is to bring the MMO and the ES crowd together in one great game, but the ES crowd are going to be very unhappy when they discover their favourite game hasn't got the ability to actually RP (Role Play) the way people want to. Therefore, I sincerely hope they change this for release as it will be a complete deal-breaker for many ES fans. Please make your opinion heard!

    Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on October 24, 2015 8:32PM
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  • ColoursYouHave
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    3rd person view OP, ZOS nerf please :tongue: .
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