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CP Question with Orsinium

tillab14_ESO
So if I have 50 CPs, I have earned 50 x 400,000 = 20,000,000 champion xp points.

Will this 20 million be applied tot he new CP mechanism, so I would expect a large bump when xpac drops?

Thanks,
  • Scyantific
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    No.
  • tillab14_ESO
    Well that is not great, guess I should stop leveling for 2 weeks...
  • UrQuan
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    So if I have 50 CPs, I have earned 50 x 400,000 = 20,000,000 champion xp points.

    Will this 20 million be applied tot he new CP mechanism, so I would expect a large bump when xpac drops?

    Thanks,
    Your math doesn't take into account your enlightenment...

    Edit: nevermind, I see why you didn't take into account enlightenment... You're not concerned with how much XP you actually earned, you're only talking about how it was applied towards CPs. Your math makes perfect sense for that purpose, my mistake.
    Edited by UrQuan on October 23, 2015 9:08PM
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  • tillab14_ESO
    This is pretty bad...

    Lets look at 2 characters:
    #1 dings VR1 on orsidium launch day
    #2 VR7 on orsidium launch day (will have ~50 champ points)

    By the time #1 gets to VR3, they will have more champ points that the VR7...

    If you are entering this system, it is great for you...

    If you are part way through the system, you lose a whole lot of champion point experience...
  • Paulington
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    I asked this exact question on ESO Live.

    The reply (from @ZOS_RichLambert) was that while this is technically possible to do this for every character would take around a week of downtime which is obviously not possible.

    It sucks but that's how it is. :).
  • tillab14_ESO
    Interesting, calculation is simply area under the curve of a triangle with a square...

    Pretty trivial...

    These guys just taking easy way out...
  • Scyantific
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    They didn't do this with the lowered exp requirements that came with Imperial City, what makes you think they would have done it with Orsinium?
  • tillab14_ESO
    Good point, now that you mention that.

    And thinking about it, they boned me there too...

    Had 950K xp and logged in to 849,999 xp after the patch... Although its only a small amount, it just rubs me the wrong way...

    This (CP Normalization) is much much worse IMHO...
  • UrQuan
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    Good point, now that you mention that.

    And thinking about it, they boned me there too...

    Had 950K xp and logged in to 849,999 xp after the patch... Although its only a small amount, it just rubs me the wrong way...

    This (CP Normalization) is much much worse IMHO...
    You were 50,000 XP away from your next vet rank immediately before the patch, and 1 XP away from it immediately after the patch...

    I'll bet if you were playing back before the amount of XP per vet rank was dropped down to 1,000,000 you'd be really upset.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • tillab14_ESO
    Good point.

    Your view is the glass half full approach, I am a half empty kinda guy :)
    Edited by tillab14_ESO on October 24, 2015 12:50AM
  • Keepercraft
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Does anyone have the new formula? The patch notes where a bit unclear as to what they changed.

    It was posted a few days ago in one of the Champion Point threads by a dev.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2339628/#Comment_2339628

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2342631/#Comment_2342631
    Old CP exp system will be scale to new CP exp system.
    Edited by Keepercraft on October 24, 2015 12:57AM
    Still waiting for Sithis.
  • tillab14_ESO
    Yeah, I get all the math behind defining XP per CP and how it scales, etc...

    What I was hoping for, as have many others, is some type of conversion of past effort into the new system...

    I am pretty low level, many others should me much more upset that I, realizing it is a game and you shouldnt get too upset...
  • Elsonso
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    Interesting, calculation is simply area under the curve of a triangle with a square...

    Pretty trivial...

    These guys just taking easy way out...

    The calculation might be, but it has to be done across every character in the game. While a week might be subject to debate, he was probably right that it would take longer to finish than they want for maintenance.
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  • UrQuan
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    Good point.

    Your view is the glass half full approach, I am a half empty kinda guy :)
    I don't know if I'd really call myself a "glass half full" kind of guy, or a "glass half empty" kind of guy. I'm more of a "time to order another pint" kind of guy. I'm not sure how to apply that metaphor to this discussion though...
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Keepercraft
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    Interesting, calculation is simply area under the curve of a triangle with a square...

    Pretty trivial...

    These guys just taking easy way out...

    The calculation might be, but it has to be done across every character in the game. While a week might be subject to debate, he was probably right that it would take longer to finish than they want for maintenance.
    Need to wait for last patch note, to see ZOS final decision about new CP system adaptation.
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    Still waiting for Sithis.
  • GuyNamedSean
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    I don't understand people who halt their progress completely in anticipation for easier experience gains later.
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  • tillab14_ESO
    Not halting progress, mildly upset about losing previous time invested for no good reason...
  • GuyNamedSean
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    Not halting progress, mildly upset about losing previous time invested for no good reason...

    There are a lot more non-retroactive things in the world than retroactive. The game's been out for ages and according to the last poll I saw on it the majority of players have 300-400CP. If they made the new XP requirements retroactive it would require completely re-evaluating large amounts of people's CP and massively changed balances.

    And they didn't retroactively re-evaluate everyone's level for IC reducing the time between Veteran levels and increasing gains from some sources, so why would you assume they'd bother with it this time?
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