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[Bug Report] Low-Level Glyphs not giving Potency Runes when Extracted

UltimaJoe777
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I cannot vouch for looted Glyphs here but definitely for store-bought. Zenimax please look into the rate of Potency Runes obtained by extracting low-level Glyphs, especially Trifling Glyphs. The Trifling Glyphs purchased in Auridon at least are not giving any Potency Runes at all!
Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 20, 2015 12:30AM
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    If I was on PS4 I'd send you the 3k gold because I'm admiring your *** RNG my friend.
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    If I was on PS4 I'd send you the 3k gold because I'm admiring your *** RNG my friend.

    Yeah the 3k isn't really the issue. The issue is I can no longer trust this most reliable way of getting Potency Runes I need easily because it no longer feels like the work of RNGodOfMisfortune.

    Also now that I think about it I'm pretty sure the rate of Potency Rune extraction is pretty low on looted Glyphs too. I could be mistaken there but at the very least there is some imbalance between the extraction rate of Potency, Essence, and Aspect Runes which sadly seem to be tipped in Aspect's favor. Stupid Ta Runes...
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 19, 2015 9:42AM
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  • eligh0716
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    Yeah maybe it's because of the level of the glyph being so low. I tend to only get a few tunes when I break down low level glyphs.
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    Runes* sorry
  • icontested
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    Used to be I could buy about 10 Glyphs from an Enchanter and get anywhere between 2-7 of the Potency Rune involved with said Glyph pretty much everytime depending on RNG. Now I buy 10 Glyphs and apparently I'm lucky to get just 1. I just bought 44 of the same Glyph, Extracted them all, and only got the Essence and Aspect Runes. Not one of those 44 Glyphs produced a Potency Rune from Extraction! Needless to say I am not happy about wasting Gold like that and normally I wouldn't think much of it because, you know, RNG and stuff, but I am fairly convinced this is not bad RNG luck. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey anybody from Zenimax please look into this.

    Oh and I should also mention that the character I did this on has every single Enchanting Skill ranked up to their highest except for Keen Eye and of course Potency Improvement since I'm still at 46 Enchanting. Also this was done with Trifling Glyph of Reduced Spell Cost in case that matters (need the Jode Runes for certain Writs on my main and I prefer this method of obtaining if I have the gold to burn, but this was 3,000 Gold or so wasted pretty much).

    A smart guy like you will be able to tell the difference between a possible bug and a real bug after you play the game more. I wonder how many people will repeat this "bug" and add it to their rant of how miserable they are playing this game because of all the "bugs".
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    eligh0716 wrote: »
    Yeah maybe it's because of the level of the glyph being so low. I tend to only get a few runes when I break down low level glyphs.

    Yet I obtained Essence and Aspect Runes from over half of the Glyphs I deconstructed. Part of what you said though is why I posted about this as I have reason to believe the Trifling Glyphs themselves may have this bug instead of merely the extraction rate. On a side note though I also almost never get Runes from Writ rewards anymore which is meh but not a big deal since I have plenty of those and stuff.
    icontested wrote: »
    Used to be I could buy about 10 Glyphs from an Enchanter and get anywhere between 2-7 of the Potency Rune involved with said Glyph pretty much everytime depending on RNG. Now I buy 10 Glyphs and apparently I'm lucky to get just 1. I just bought 44 of the same Glyph, Extracted them all, and only got the Essence and Aspect Runes. Not one of those 44 Glyphs produced a Potency Rune from Extraction! Needless to say I am not happy about wasting Gold like that and normally I wouldn't think much of it because, you know, RNG and stuff, but I am fairly convinced this is not bad RNG luck. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey anybody from Zenimax please look into this.

    Oh and I should also mention that the character I did this on has every single Enchanting Skill ranked up to their highest except for Keen Eye and of course Potency Improvement since I'm still at 46 Enchanting. Also this was done with Trifling Glyph of Reduced Spell Cost in case that matters (need the Jode Runes for certain Writs on my main and I prefer this method of obtaining if I have the gold to burn, but this was 3,000 Gold or so wasted pretty much).

    A smart guy like you will be able to tell the difference between a possible bug and a real bug after you play the game more. I wonder how many people will repeat this "bug" and add it to their rant of how miserable they are playing this game because of all the "bugs".

    If I didn't believe it was a bug I would not have posted here. RNG screws me over more than I care to speak of but this is just too big for a mere RNG misfortune. Whether it is or isn't though it wouldn't hurt for Zenimax to double-check their mechanics. Things have a funny way of happening without their knowledge...
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 19, 2015 10:09AM
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  • icontested
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    eligh0716 wrote: »
    Yeah maybe it's because of the level of the glyph being so low. I tend to only get a few runes when I break down low level glyphs.

    Yet I obtained Essence and Aspect Runes from over half of the Glyphs I deconstructed. Part of what you said though is why I posted about this as I have reason to believe the Trifling Glyphs themselves may have this bug instead of merely the extraction rate. On a side note though I also almost never get Runes from Writ rewards anymore which is meh but not a big deal since I have plenty of those and stuff.
    icontested wrote: »
    Used to be I could buy about 10 Glyphs from an Enchanter and get anywhere between 2-7 of the Potency Rune involved with said Glyph pretty much everytime depending on RNG. Now I buy 10 Glyphs and apparently I'm lucky to get just 1. I just bought 44 of the same Glyph, Extracted them all, and only got the Essence and Aspect Runes. Not one of those 44 Glyphs produced a Potency Rune from Extraction! Needless to say I am not happy about wasting Gold like that and normally I wouldn't think much of it because, you know, RNG and stuff, but I am fairly convinced this is not bad RNG luck. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey anybody from Zenimax please look into this.

    Oh and I should also mention that the character I did this on has every single Enchanting Skill ranked up to their highest except for Keen Eye and of course Potency Improvement since I'm still at 46 Enchanting. Also this was done with Trifling Glyph of Reduced Spell Cost in case that matters (need the Jode Runes for certain Writs on my main and I prefer this method of obtaining if I have the gold to burn, but this was 3,000 Gold or so wasted pretty much).

    A smart guy like you will be able to tell the difference between a possible bug and a real bug after you play the game more. I wonder how many people will repeat this "bug" and add it to their rant of how miserable they are playing this game because of all the "bugs".

    If I didn't believe it was a bug I would not have posted here. RNG screws me over more than I care to speak of but this is just too big for a mere RNG misfortune. Whether it is or isn't though it wouldn't hurt for Zenimax to double-check their mechanics. Things have a funny way of happening without their knowledge...

    I can respect this reply.

    Well I wish you luck
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    icontested wrote: »
    eligh0716 wrote: »
    Yeah maybe it's because of the level of the glyph being so low. I tend to only get a few runes when I break down low level glyphs.

    Yet I obtained Essence and Aspect Runes from over half of the Glyphs I deconstructed. Part of what you said though is why I posted about this as I have reason to believe the Trifling Glyphs themselves may have this bug instead of merely the extraction rate. On a side note though I also almost never get Runes from Writ rewards anymore which is meh but not a big deal since I have plenty of those and stuff.
    icontested wrote: »
    Used to be I could buy about 10 Glyphs from an Enchanter and get anywhere between 2-7 of the Potency Rune involved with said Glyph pretty much everytime depending on RNG. Now I buy 10 Glyphs and apparently I'm lucky to get just 1. I just bought 44 of the same Glyph, Extracted them all, and only got the Essence and Aspect Runes. Not one of those 44 Glyphs produced a Potency Rune from Extraction! Needless to say I am not happy about wasting Gold like that and normally I wouldn't think much of it because, you know, RNG and stuff, but I am fairly convinced this is not bad RNG luck. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey anybody from Zenimax please look into this.

    Oh and I should also mention that the character I did this on has every single Enchanting Skill ranked up to their highest except for Keen Eye and of course Potency Improvement since I'm still at 46 Enchanting. Also this was done with Trifling Glyph of Reduced Spell Cost in case that matters (need the Jode Runes for certain Writs on my main and I prefer this method of obtaining if I have the gold to burn, but this was 3,000 Gold or so wasted pretty much).

    A smart guy like you will be able to tell the difference between a possible bug and a real bug after you play the game more. I wonder how many people will repeat this "bug" and add it to their rant of how miserable they are playing this game because of all the "bugs".

    If I didn't believe it was a bug I would not have posted here. RNG screws me over more than I care to speak of but this is just too big for a mere RNG misfortune. Whether it is or isn't though it wouldn't hurt for Zenimax to double-check their mechanics. Things have a funny way of happening without their knowledge...

    I can respect this reply.

    Well I wish you luck

    Yeah, I do need a lot of luck getting Zenimax to reply don't I? lol

    Maybe they will look into it after Orsinium is released, assuming they don't immediately jump into the next DLC...
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  • icontested
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    icontested wrote: »
    eligh0716 wrote: »
    Yeah maybe it's because of the level of the glyph being so low. I tend to only get a few runes when I break down low level glyphs.

    Yet I obtained Essence and Aspect Runes from over half of the Glyphs I deconstructed. Part of what you said though is why I posted about this as I have reason to believe the Trifling Glyphs themselves may have this bug instead of merely the extraction rate. On a side note though I also almost never get Runes from Writ rewards anymore which is meh but not a big deal since I have plenty of those and stuff.
    icontested wrote: »
    Used to be I could buy about 10 Glyphs from an Enchanter and get anywhere between 2-7 of the Potency Rune involved with said Glyph pretty much everytime depending on RNG. Now I buy 10 Glyphs and apparently I'm lucky to get just 1. I just bought 44 of the same Glyph, Extracted them all, and only got the Essence and Aspect Runes. Not one of those 44 Glyphs produced a Potency Rune from Extraction! Needless to say I am not happy about wasting Gold like that and normally I wouldn't think much of it because, you know, RNG and stuff, but I am fairly convinced this is not bad RNG luck. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey anybody from Zenimax please look into this.

    Oh and I should also mention that the character I did this on has every single Enchanting Skill ranked up to their highest except for Keen Eye and of course Potency Improvement since I'm still at 46 Enchanting. Also this was done with Trifling Glyph of Reduced Spell Cost in case that matters (need the Jode Runes for certain Writs on my main and I prefer this method of obtaining if I have the gold to burn, but this was 3,000 Gold or so wasted pretty much).

    A smart guy like you will be able to tell the difference between a possible bug and a real bug after you play the game more. I wonder how many people will repeat this "bug" and add it to their rant of how miserable they are playing this game because of all the "bugs".

    If I didn't believe it was a bug I would not have posted here. RNG screws me over more than I care to speak of but this is just too big for a mere RNG misfortune. Whether it is or isn't though it wouldn't hurt for Zenimax to double-check their mechanics. Things have a funny way of happening without their knowledge...

    I can respect this reply.

    Well I wish you luck

    Yeah, I do need a lot of luck getting Zenimax to reply don't I? lol

    Maybe they will look into it after Orsinium is released, assuming they don't immediately jump into the next DLC...

    Dude come on. When I was extracting glyphs I had some Dry spells. It wasn't fun but its the nature of the loot.

    I've read your posts.. You are better than letting some rng get in your way
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  • nimander99
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    You buy runes for extraction? You must be one of those masochists I hear about on teh interweb ;)
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    I thought something was added to make it so you couldn't easily acquire potency from glyphs purchased from a vendor.

    I regularly get a ton of potency from deconning normal glyphs so it works for sure.
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    I thought something was added to make it so you couldn't easily acquire potency from glyphs purchased from a vendor.

    I regularly get a ton of potency from deconning normal glyphs so it works for sure.

    Yeah, God forbid people obtaining any sort of item regularly without there being some sort of ball-ache attached to it.

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    Ezareth wrote: »
    I thought something was added to make it so you couldn't easily acquire potency from glyphs purchased from a vendor.

    I regularly get a ton of potency from deconning normal glyphs so it works for sure.

    Yeah, God forbid people obtaining any sort of item regularly without there being some sort of ball-ache attached to it.

    Hey don't shoot the messenger. This hasn't really been an issue to me, the only time I buy glyphs is if I accidentally deposit all my TA or something before doing a rift and I'm too lazy to run to the bank to withdraw one.

    If something needs fixed it should be having to go to the damn bank to withdraw items for writs. We can craft in isolated places using materials contained in our banks yet we can't turn in writs in a major cities using materials from a bank 100 yards away?
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Well I can definitely vouch for Potency Rune extraction from Glyphs you loot not being too much an issue and RNG probably was against me on the lower level ones (all from Treasure Maps mind you) and of course Writ Glyphs are just 1 a day and can also be attributed to RNG. However...

    I just went and bought 66 Trifling Glyphs of Reduce Spell Cost for the sole purpose of proving whether my bug report is true or false and frankly I stand by my report. Why? Well...

    66 Extractions:
    00 Jode Runes
    26 Makkoma Runes
    33 Ta Runes

    Anyone still think it's RNG misfortune?
    Ezareth wrote: »
    I thought something was added to make it so you couldn't easily acquire potency from glyphs purchased from a vendor.

    Personally I've heard nothing of this but if it's true then it's a d*ck move by Zenimax.
    nimander99 wrote: »
    You buy runes for extraction? You must be one of those masochists I hear about on teh interweb ;)

    I used to get Potency Runes just fine from extracting Vendor Glyphs as stated in my OP. Now though... Perhaps I shall test a higher level Glyph next, see if it's just this one or Vendor Glyphs in general. If it is Vendor Glyphs for the above quote then yeah, d*ck move...

    Edit: Ok I tested further by buying 24 Strong Glyphs of Reduce Feat Cost and got the following results:
    12 Hade Runes
    07 Denima Runes
    08 Ta Runes

    The results are conclusive. I shall now edit my OP to reflect this newfound bug.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 20, 2015 12:28AM
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    Edit: Ok I tested further by buying 24 Strong Glyphs of Reduce Feat Cost and got the following results:
    12 Hade Runes
    07 Denima Runes
    08 Ta Runes

    The results are conclusive. I shall now edit my OP to reflect this newfound bug.

    Isn't Hade a potency rune or am I missing something here?
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Edit: Ok I tested further by buying 24 Strong Glyphs of Reduce Feat Cost and got the following results:
    12 Hade Runes
    07 Denima Runes
    08 Ta Runes

    The results are conclusive. I shall now edit my OP to reflect this newfound bug.

    Isn't Hade a potency rune or am I missing something here?

    Yes it is.
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